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Well, assuming we get Marion at 10 mil instead of 15, since nobody is proposing an extension at 15 per, what would our cap-room be that summer if we were to renounce Blount and whoever we get for Banks, but not Haslem? And if we were to renounce Haslem, I assume we would just clear 6 million more of cap room?
If cap room wasn't going to work out, we could always use Blount's expiring deal at the deadline to add a low-post presence, as many teams will be trying to free space to make a run at LBJ and Wade.
For starters, it's laughable to assume Marion is going to take $10 mill IMO. He basically forced trades because he wasn't getting $20 mill a year offers, and wanted it enough to go from one of the best, most exciting teams that perfectly catered for his flaws to the worst team in the league. I can't imagine he takes less than 13-15 mill a year. Which is why I am consistently up for trades like Marion for LaFrentz or Marbury provided we get some young talent and clear Blounts contract out with him, because to me, Marion's contract is his real value. I do think it would be wiser to hold on to him till through the offseason, and maybe to the trade deadline next year though, as his value will only go up when teams get desperate like last year to add the missing piece.
Anyway, here is our cap breakdown:
08-09
Wade 14,410,581
Blount 7,350,000
Haslem 6,575,000
Banks 4,176,000
Parker 1,600,000 (I think we paid out 800k of 2.4 mill)
Cook 1,273,200
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$35,384,781
Then add
Marion 17,180,000 (if he takes his option, or add his extension salary if he doesn't take the option and gets an extension)
Then add whatever pick we get (based on last years salaries - they'll probably be a fraction higher)
1st pick 4,662,000
2nd pick 4,171,200
3rd pick 3,745,800
4th pick 3,377,160
Then decide if you use the MLE or LLE
MLE 5,500,000
LLE 1,910,000
Then decide on whether to re-sign
Davis
J-Will
Alonzo
Then add up your rostered players and add one min salary for every missing player up to 11. That's your cap figure.
Min salary 442,114
So in your deal I guess it would be
35,384,781 (existing)
10,000,000 (Marion)
3,377,160 (At least 4th pick)
No use of MLE, LLE or re-sign of players)
4 x 442,114
Making us $50,530,397 in salary cap for next season
09-10
Wade 15,779,912
Marion 10,000,000
Blount 7,962,500
Haslem 7,100,000
Banks 4,464,000
Cook 1,362,120
#4th pick 3,630,480
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$50,299,012
Then decide if you use the MLE or LLE
MLE 5,600,000
LLE 1,990,000
Then add up your rostered players and add one min salary for every missing player up to 11.
Min salary 457,588
09-10 cap $52,129,364
10-11
Marion 10,000,000
Banks 4,752,000
Cook 2,169,856
#4th pick 4,913,007
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21,834,863
Now Wade and Haslem have cap holds to retain them. Now as the cap should be around 62 mill by then, the max salary for Wade will be 18.6 mill. Haslem is 150% of his last salary.
Wade 18,600,000
Haslem 10,500,000
We either use the cap holds, or sign the guys to a contract, and they count for that. Wade will probably command the max, Haslem probably less than 10.5 mill, more like 8 or so.
Then add our cap hold for 10-11 which will be at least a million and thats assuming we are the best team in the league, more likely we'll be around the middle of the league.
1,700,000
Then add up your rostered players and add one min salary for every missing player up to 11.
Min salary 473,604
So best case
21,834,863 (existing players)
18,600,000 (Wade)
8,000,000 (Haslem)
1,700,000 (#15th pick)
473,604 x 4
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$52,029,279
We would have just under $10 million to sign Bosh, who is eligible for the same 18.6 million Wade is, and we have:
Not used our MLE for 3 seasons, not used our LLE for 3 seasons, never re-signed a free agent who panned out, somehow managed to sign Marion to half the contract he wanted, signed Haslem to a relativley going-rate contract despite him probably deserving more for taking a cheap contract the first time around, ran with no depth for 3 years.
It's just not feasable to keep all our players, and Marion is the guy who is already 30 and relys on athleticism who wants big money, which is why he probably shouldn't be here after next season.