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Post#41 » by Miami's Finest » Sat May 31, 2008 7:16 pm

CoolD wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Look up, J.J Redick, and Adam Morrison.

Just look how much a difference the pro game is vs College. That is why all this things matter.


Do any of those guys have the skill set of a Michael Beasley? How many guys have ever dominated college basketball the way Beasley did as a freshman? I agree 100% all things matter which is why to discount what Beasley has done is ridiculous.
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Post#42 » by dflash3 » Sat May 31, 2008 8:04 pm

Flash4thewin wrote:Hes clowning around because hes confident. Shaq did the same thing. If you were to look at there resumes, Beasley did more with less and dominated. Rose has the potential to be great but couldnt do it at the college level. Mayo has the potential to be great but couldnt do it at the college level either. Thats not to say they cant dominate its just that right now they will be drafted on potential instead of actual performance.

Ahhh when you compared Beasely to Shaq I almost had a heart attack :o First thought that entered my mind was overweight and poor work ethic.

But, then I saw clowning around and I breathed a sigh of relief. Lets hope that's the only thing Beasley has in common to Shaq.
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Post#43 » by Lane1974 » Sat May 31, 2008 8:15 pm

Dwight Howard also comes to mind...
that being said, I wonder who Beasley's agent is, he sucks - he should have prepped him better.
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Post#44 » by perz260 » Sat May 31, 2008 8:17 pm

In a perfect world the player that seems to have the attitude that Riley likes is Rose, but if Rose is gone and the choice is between Mayo and Beasley, then there is no debate in talent Beasley easily wins. Are people forgetting the tournament game they played against each other? What that game again and tell me who is the better player, there is no comparison. Is not even close, Beasley had a double-double shot 60 percent while Mayo shot 37% and struggled against the KState defense. Beasley has always played hard in college (at least on offense) and can only get better.
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Post#45 » by Guy986 » Sat May 31, 2008 9:54 pm

Lane1974 wrote:Dwight Howard also comes to mind...
that being said, I wonder who Beasley's agent is, he sucks - he should have prepped him better.


Difference is that Dwight is an absolute athletic freak and he's as devout a christian as any in the history of the league. There has NEVER been any off the court problem with Howard. Beasly got kicked out of 4 high schools and goes around slashing tires....
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Post#46 » by SJ2100 » Sat May 31, 2008 9:58 pm

Actually, as devout as Howard was, he just had his first illegitimate child with a NBA dancer. Not that this is necessarily a character issue, but lets not make him out to be AC Green either
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Post#47 » by dflash3 » Sat May 31, 2008 10:15 pm

SJ2100 wrote:Actually, as devout as Howard was, he just had his first illegitimate child with a NBA dancer. Not that this is necessarily a character issue, but lets not make him out to be AC Green either

Well its normal for any young man who is constantly chased by beautiful women to have some fun :eyebrows:

But, aside from that he seems like a very good person. He doesn't have character problems Artest does and doesn't seem to have an inflated ago. And as a player he has incredible work ethic and focus.
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Post#48 » by Guy986 » Sat May 31, 2008 10:44 pm

SJ2100 wrote:Actually, as devout as Howard was, he just had his first illegitimate child with a NBA dancer. Not that this is necessarily a character issue, but lets not make him out to be AC Green either


Legend has it that even Jesus has his own illegitimate child. So its not a big deal.
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Post#49 » by SJ2100 » Sat May 31, 2008 10:56 pm

Guy986 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Legend has it that even Jesus has his own illegitimate child. So its not a big deal.


I never said it was a big deal, I even said it wasn't necessarily a character issue. All I said is he and AC Green are not in the same boat, therefore disproving your claim that Dwight is as devout as any player in the history of the league.
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Post#50 » by CB4MiamiHeat » Sat May 31, 2008 11:33 pm

I wouldnt worry about Riley paying close attention to Mayo or Love...hes said hes open to trading..so if he gets offered an All-Star type player and a lottery pick hes just trying to analyze every prospect.

Theres no way he passes up on Beasley
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Post#51 » by Flash4thewin » Sun Jun 1, 2008 12:15 am

Did the rest of the measurements get released yet?

How tall are mayo/bayless/gordon/westbrook just incase we get another lottery pick
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Post#52 » by Riled Up » Sun Jun 1, 2008 4:06 pm

None of the measurements have been released, so we still don't even know Beasley's measurements or anyone else.
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Post#53 » by Immure » Sun Jun 1, 2008 5:14 pm

i have a question...
why are we so discouraged from beasly?
he's a small PF but so is boozer and brand, the PF's we seem so infactuated with in 09....
if riley trades beasly for either one of these veteran players is ridiculous, how many more years do they have 3??? beasly is clearly the best player in the draft and he would be considered a bargain at 5 mil a year...
between rose and beasly he seems to be the better fit, he already has an outside shot, and both wade/rose need the ball in their hands to be effective...
I think we should at least give beasly a shot since most heat posters main concern seem to be his attitude... but the kid was born to play b-ball...
and another thing is a lot of you guys say that marion plays better at PF... my question is, offensively? because definetely not defensively....and his offense is basically put backs, fast break points, and his ackward 3 he has...
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Post#54 » by Flash4thewin » Sun Jun 1, 2008 10:41 pm

Its all smoke screen. Looking at how Pat operates its almost comical to believe the "leaks" coming out of the organization saying he wants rose. When ever Pat says one thing he does the other thing so i wouldn't put much weight into anything said until the actual pick is made. If you wanted Beasley wouldnt you hype up the competition Rose so the bulls take the home town kid?
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Post#55 » by GameTime_3 » Sun Jun 1, 2008 11:04 pm

Hate to breakyour parade but Riley Loves Rose. Some people ive talked to have heard it first hand and Wade has told manypeople that he likes Rose.During a Event this year where Players would call people who maybe intersting in season tickets,Wade was Ask"Who does he want @ 1" and he said that he cant say the namebecaue he is still playing, but he will be a great Point Guard or something along those lines(It was during the Finally 4)
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Post#56 » by HeatSince88 » Mon Jun 2, 2008 12:53 am

its game time wrote:Wade was Ask"Who does he want @ 1" and he said that he cant say the namebecaue he is still playing, but he will be a great Point Guard or something along those lines(It was during the Finally 4)


I guess we should also draft Russell Westbrook, Mario Chalmers, and Ty Lawson just to be on the safe side.
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Post#57 » by Flash4thewin » Mon Jun 2, 2008 12:57 am

Kobe wanted Kidd but mgt was smart enough not to trade for him and now they are in the finals. This team has no post play at all but thats a different topic.

What i find amazing is that either people are falling head over heals for Rose because its "leaked" that Pat wants him. Does that sound like Pat? They say a sucker is born every min but to each his own. Let think about it, if Pat loves Rose why in the world would you bash Beasley the competition? You would want to build up Beasley and you get a better shot at getting getting Rose. Has anything "leaked" showing that? No.

The other thing that is completely over looked is the belief that Pat has basically turned into a teenage girl with her panties in a bunch over Rose and making it public if you believe the "leaked" reports. Does that sound like Pat. Unless Pat has undergone some sort of revelation/awakening and now gives honest answer as GM this is all a smoke screen.
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Post#58 » by Miami's Finest » Mon Jun 2, 2008 1:25 am

Exactly we've heard Pat doesn't like Beasley and is in love with Rose, Mayo, Love and others. Sitting at No. 2, I doubt he would reveal his true intentions.
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Post#59 » by jack ramsay » Mon Jun 2, 2008 11:27 am

Hoops23 wrote:What is funny is to see some non Heat fans who post in here and sell us Mayo for the #2. They come here and post some negative comments about Rose or Beasley but their concern is us taking Mayo and them taking either of the two. lol!

Elton Brand was believe to be 6'8" and Boozer is a little closer to 6'9" but are you going to pass on those guys if we have the cap space to sign them next year, I bet not.

Beasley can play both position as Walker and James Worthy did for Riley, and I think Beasley could play well with coach Eric. I don't know why some fans want to make big deal with the heaight of Beasley. Some known small PF are Anthony Mason, Maxiell, Landry, Leon Powe, Craig Smith, Chuck Hayes, Malik Rose etc. Our own Shawn Marion was a small PF in Phoenix.
second, I really think the Bulls will draft Beasley. They covet a post up player for a long time now. We will have Rose soon, unless Riley will trade the pick for an extablish player, as he said.


You're killing me here. I'm not really bothered by Beasley's height at all, but THIS is the list of players you've come up with to ease our concerns? You've GOTTA do better than that!!
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Post#60 » by BBallFreak » Mon Jun 2, 2008 12:01 pm

jack ramsay wrote:You're killing me here. I'm not really bothered by Beasley's height at all, but THIS is the list of players you've come up with to ease our concerns? You've GOTTA do better than that!!


Nothing wrong with Shawn Marion on that list, but of course he doesn't include guys like Karl Malone (6'9"), Elton Brand (6'8"), Charles Barkley (6'6"), David West (6'9"), and Antwan Jamison (6'9") who are all right around Beasley's height, or a bit less in Barkley's case (he was listed as 6'6", but was actually like 6'4").

Of course, in terms of Riley's strategy, I remember all the hype during Wade's offseason was that we were interested in Maciej Lampe, T.J. Ford, Kirk Hinrich, and Chris Kaman. The only people I ever heard mention Wade in connection with the Heat were a handful of very bright fans who wanted him here (I was not one of them as I don't follow college ball. I asked what the difference between he and Tony Delk was :banghead: ).

I don't think anyone outside the Heat braintrust has any clue what Riley is thinking, or why he's thiking it. I think we all need to hang back, relax, and let Riley do his thing. Between he and the people around him, I trust that we'll get the right guy...

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