2020 NBA Draft - We have a FRP!....for now

[HeatIn5]

Assuming Aaron Nesmith is off the board - this is how my short list currently looks from 20

1. Saddiq Bey - Tough, physical, and without knowing what next season is going to look like I want a guy who will translate well to the NBA game. Reminds me a lot of a physical guy like Dillon Brooks or even Jae Crowder and I think with the shooters that we have and looking at stars we will need a physical guy like Bey.

2. Kira Lewis - If we are losing Goran, we will need another PG to go in a dynamic with Nunn. Kira is LIGHTNING - think a slightly lesser Ja. If Riley/Spo think Nunn reminds them of Norris Cole, wait till they sit and watch this kid.

3. Vernon Carey - Hometown hero, and fills a real need of a big behind Bam. Shoots better than people think, and would do great things under Heat culture.

4. Daniel Oturo - Him and Vern are really 3A and B for me. I love his game, but bringing the hometown kid back and the fact that Vern was such a high prospect coming out of HS a year ago makes the conversation difficult. Oturo has a nice touch on his shot, and almost plays like the rich mans version of Jalen Smith (who just missed this list). I could see Oturo actually developing into having the ability to play alongside Bam.

I dont see Carey as a Spo type of player. I like him, but do not see Spo liking him.

To be completely honest, I agree. However I love Carey and will continue to put him above Oturo and Smith even though I think there's a better chance we take one of them.

[DayofMourning]

Carey could take over for Meyers pretty easily in my eyes. Will be able to stretch the floor and will also be able to defend down low and rebound. Per 40 minutes, he averages 14.1 boards. That alone would be a welcome addition. He's also a guy you can dump the ball to down low when our offense has gone completely stagnant (per usual) and he will be able to get you buckets. Just get him a vice jersey already. This one is in the books.

[Feel_the_Heat15]

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Robert Woodard II, nice looking prospect. Very good physical talent, highly skilled in some areas and very raw in others, the same with IQ. Appears to be a hardworker that may be a willing learner. I would be interested. Needs to time to develop however, he can contribute early as a specialist 3D player.

We're not drafting him at 20, he's just not an impressive enough prospect.

Didnt say anything about at 20.

Either way, generally speaking he's not a good prospect.

[lastb1ckman]

Carey could take over for Meyers pretty easily in my eyes. Will be able to stretch the floor and will also be able to defend down low and rebound. Per 40 minutes, he averages 14.1 boards. That alone would be a welcome addition. He's also a guy you can dump the ball to down low when our offense has gone completely stagnant (per usual) and he will be able to get you buckets. Just get him a vice jersey already. This one is in the books.

I'm pretty skeptical of Carey. To be a successful big in this league, you gotta be able to defend the pick and roll. Based on all the footage I've seen, that's one of his biggest weaknesses on D. Along with this, he's only 6-10 with a 7' wingspan and slow feet. If Spo is already siting Meyers for entire games for Kelly and Jae late in the season, I don't see why they would draft Carey when there's plenty of other much more versatile bigs a available.

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[Rafly]

I would love to somehow get Tyrese Maxey. Really wouldn’t surprise me if he ends up the best player in this class. I see some Donovan Mitchell in him. He pairs up quite well with Herro as well in the long run.

[DayofMourning]

Carey could take over for Meyers pretty easily in my eyes. Will be able to stretch the floor and will also be able to defend down low and rebound. Per 40 minutes, he averages 14.1 boards. That alone would be a welcome addition. He's also a guy you can dump the ball to down low when our offense has gone completely stagnant (per usual) and he will be able to get you buckets. Just get him a vice jersey already. This one is in the books.

I'm pretty skeptical of Carey. To be a successful big in this league, you gotta be able to defend the pick and roll. Based on all the footage I've seen, that's one of his biggest weaknesses on D. Along with this, he's only 6-10 with a 7' wingspan and slow feet. If Spo is already siting Meyers for entire games for Kelly and Jae late in the season, I don't see why they would draft Carey when there's plenty of other much more versatile bigs a available.

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20th pick though, right? If he was a tap dancer, with extendo arms, he'd be going top five eh?

[Feel_the_Heat15]

Lets assume, in no order that these are the 19 names that are off the board.

Anthony Edwards
James Wiseman
Deni Avdija
LaMelo Ball
Killian Hayes
Precious Achiuwa
Tyrese Haliburton
RJ Hampton
Onyeka Okongwu
Isaac Okoro
Aaron Nesmith
Obi Toppin
Cole Anthony
Tyrese Maxey
Devin Vassell
Kira Lewis Jr.
Saddiq Bey
Tyrell Terry
Josh Green

I think that the Heat would draft one of these players:
Jaden McDaniels
Patrick Williams
Jalen Smith
Grant Riller

I'd also add Pokusevski but he's international.

[Wiltside]

Looking at Miami's Draft Pick History over the past 5 years:

2019: Tyler Herro, SG, Freshman, Kentucky / KZ Okpala, SF/PF, Sophomore, Stanford
2018: Pick was traded
2017: Bam Adebayo, PF/C, Freshman, Kentucky
2016: Pick was traded
2015: Justise Winslow, SF, Freshman, Duke / Josh Richardson, SG, Senior, Tennessee

We typically like guys from big programs and we're happy to take who we perceive as BPA, not necessarily base it on fit. We also value positionless abilities, and guys who can play more than one or two positions.

Having said that, I feel like our biggest needs would be:
- Interior defense, rebounding with shooting range
- Backup guard
- 3&D wings that can play the 4

Interior defense is obvious, the hard part is the shooting range. Spo doesnt' seem to like playing Bam at the 4 with a non-shooting center, which means we often downsize our frontcourt for maximum defensive versatility. This helps spacing but gives up interior defense and rebounding. It would be good to have a legit shot blocking, 3pt shooting big on the roster. Neither Kelly nor Myles fit this brief given their lack of rim protection.

Additionally, it would be good to have a Gogi successor to groom. He's been terrific as a 6th man this year, embraced the role fully. We don't know what the offseason holds for him though, and whether he will play ball for team friendly contract flexibility, or take the cash and years offered elsewhere. It would be good to have someone in the wings ready to take over, whether it is this year or two years from now. To be fair though, that person could be Kendrick Nunn if he embraced his microwave scorer destiny.

Finally, you can never have too many 3&D wings, which would also become important if we were to be able to land Giannis in 2021. Presumably, he and Bam play the 4/5 interchangeably, but having wings who you can plug next to them when one is resting will be key also, particularly given Spo's penchant for going small. It remains important given Crowder and DJJ are both FA's who may need replacing.

I think Saddiq Bey is looking like my preferred draft pick if available. NBA ready frame at 6'8" and 216lbs, 2.5 treys on 45% per, 6'8" and can defend. I feel it is unlikely that he will be available though. Patrick Williams would be next on my list, but he too may not be available - expecting him to fly up draft boards closer to the Draft.

I'm not opposed to someone like Carey, but as someone said earlier, he doesn't strike me as someone who would fit the Spo type offense. Reminds me a bit of Greg Monroe for some reason. Perhaps it's the lefty stroke and being a bit of a banger on the inside. Moose was a solid player, but players like him are a dying breed. Crazy how quick he flamed out after that contract - dude is still only 30.

Part of me would love to see us have the balls to identify a target we really want in the mid-late lotto and go for it. Offer up Nunn and #20 to get in there and get our guy.

[DayofMourning]

Quality post Wilt.

Difference between Monroe and Carey is the latter can defend. Easier to stay on the floor when you play both ends.

We really could use a consistent lead guard, as Nunn is responsible for little else than hitting a shot. He hasn't shown any lead guard skills in my eyes.

Would totally buy in on Van Vleet, but don't feel like we are in the market for him.

[Rafly]

Also they might love DJJ but they likely don’t want to pay him big money. Cleveland is rumored to be in on him. So if you’re looking for a DJJ replacement a great player is Tyler Bey.

[Wiltside]

Quality post Wilt.

Difference between Monroe and Carey is the latter can defend. Easier to stay on the floor when you play both ends.

We really could use a consistent lead guard, as Nunn is responsible for little else than hitting a shot. He hasn't shown any lead guard skills in my eyes.

Would totally buy in on Van Vleet, but don't feel like we are in the market for him.

Van Vleet would actually fit our offense really well, as he doesn't need to handle the ball to be effective. He's used to playing off-ball with Lowry, but can just as capably play on ball too.

The question becomes: is a core of Jimmy Butler, Bam Adebayo and Fred Van Vleet enough to win a chip? Potentially, yes, with the right depth pieces and role players in tow. But if we're rolling with that, it's unlikely we'll have the best player on the floor in many series'. That ultimately can be the deciding factor down the stretch of games.

Given FVV is going to want a big deal this offszn, I don't think it'll be from us. Likely he re-ups in Toronto and they have to figure out the salary pieces after the fact.

Draft wise, we could look at a guy like Riller to be the Van Vleet type player. Obviously no guarantees he ends up as good as FVV (but honestly, who say his rise coming either?). I'd be totally fine with drafting Riller for the record - fits a need and he's 23yrs old, ready to play.

[SerialChiller]

Too piggyback...FVV would be a much smarter get than Victor Oladipo. And when i went to a raptors heat game last season, FVV was out early on the court with a trainer putting in work well before any one else came out.

[DayofMourning]

Too piggyback...FVV would be a much smarter get than Victor Oladipo. And when i went to a raptors heat game last season, FVV was out early on the court with a trainer putting in work well before any one else came out.

FVV controls a game very well from the times I've watched him. Makes the smart play. Hits threes at an efficient clip. Plays solid defense. Just a very steadying force on the floor. He raised his game in the biggest of moments last year as well.

My real dream is that we could somehow get AD and FVV this offseason, rather than Freak and Dipo. I just think we'd be a better team. The latter combo has smoke, but there was smoke on AD prior to his move to the Lakers.

Riller is an interesting option. I feel like every time I read about him, there's a reference to FVV. Their physical resemblance plays a part in that I think. I don't like comparisons much, as a draftee will often be measured up against a top level performer, and that's just unrealistic.

I was looking at Riller's conference stats. He performs much more efficiently. Makes me wonder if he plays up to the competition. That's an awesome trait to have, if true. Conference games are usually the most intense.

[Feel_the_Heat15]

We keep forgetting that Nunn is a rookie...if the fans had their way Duncan Robinson would've gotten traded or cut from the roster last year.

[HeatIn5]

Looking at Miami's Draft Pick History over the past 5 years:

2019: Tyler Herro, SG, Freshman, Kentucky / KZ Okpala, SF/PF, Sophomore, Stanford
2018: Pick was traded
2017: Bam Adebayo, PF/C, Freshman, Kentucky
2016: Pick was traded
2015: Justise Winslow, SF, Freshman, Duke / Josh Richardson, SG, Senior, Tennessee
.

Seems to me like the pic will be traded

[Wiltside]

Looking at Miami's Draft Pick History over the past 5 years:

2019: Tyler Herro, SG, Freshman, Kentucky / KZ Okpala, SF/PF, Sophomore, Stanford
2018: Pick was traded
2017: Bam Adebayo, PF/C, Freshman, Kentucky
2016: Pick was traded
2015: Justise Winslow, SF, Freshman, Duke / Josh Richardson, SG, Senior, Tennessee
.

Seems to me like the pic will be traded

The trend don't lie HB. Knowing us, it probably will be.

Also, I don't think anyone forgets Nunn is a rookie. He's had a terrific rookie season. He just hit the wall at the wrong time. We can't afford to have him shoot his way out of a slump when we have guys playing well who have earned their playing time. This is winning time, can't carry anyone at this stage.

Hopefully it makes him even hungrier in the offszn to get better and develop his game. He's a real find, I just feel his future is as a Lou Williams type.

Will be very interested to see where Miami goes with this draft pick though. Knowing us, they'll pick someone I hate that ends up being really good

[twix2500]

Watching Tyrese Maxwell you have to ask does he have Heat culture written all over him. The defense appears to be there, the competitive nature during games and practice is there. The way he attacks defensively I think catch Pats eye.

Personally, he has a very good first step, handles the ball well, and when not handling the ball he runs hard off the ball. His shooting problems is a simple fix. He is a jump shooter by nature and has to adjust his shot a small bit on spot ups. I think it will be something Spo will fix easily.

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[Feel_the_Heat15]

Maxey is a pipe dream. There isn't a single reason I can think of for him to fall to 20 and I doubt we trade up.

[Wiltside]

Not sure if he is considered a pipe dream. Shot 42.7% from the floor and 29% from 3 in his Freshman season and is essentially a 6'3" SG. He does clearly have talent though - not certain that additional combo guard depth is our biggest need, but he'd be in the mix from a BPA perspective if available when picking.

His stock is somewhat around our draft position currently, and every year projected late lotto/mid 1st rounders slip to the 20's:
- NBADraft.net: #18
- Tankathon: #17
- NBADraftroom: #26
- Bleacher Report: #18
- CBSSports: #10

[Feel_the_Heat15]

Not sure if he is considered a pipe dream. Shot 42.7% from the floor and 29% from 3 in his Freshman season and is essentially a 6'3" SG. He does clearly have talent though - not certain that additional combo guard depth is our biggest need, but he'd be in the mix from a BPA perspective if available when picking.

His stock is somewhat around our draft position currently, and every year projected late lotto/mid 1st rounders slip to the 20's:
- NBADraft.net: #18
- Tankathon: #17
- NBADraftroom: #26
- Bleacher Report: #18
- CBSSports: #10

Forgot he was a bad 3-point shooter. Not even sure now we'd draft him if we had the chance.