Miami Heat 2023 Off-Season Thread 1.0 - Give them Cancun!!!

[AirP.]

Portland would be pretty interesting if they could make a Heat trade and came out of draft night with Scoot, Herro, Whitehead and Lively. Thats how you kickstart a rebuild.

Portland has a very good young SG and SF, adding Scoot gives them a very nice young trio at 1-3, how does Herro make sense for them? For this trade to happen Simons or Herro would have to go to a 3rd team, with Simons making 5 mil less, he's the one I'd keep.

Whatever Portland does, they need a defensive center to protect the paint, they have to move away from Nukic.

[dean456]

This would be my preferred path to trading for Lillard.

Trade Utah Herro for Olynyk, 12mil cash, #16 and #28 FRPs

Trade Either
Lowry, Robinson, #16, 2028, 2030 and 2027 FRP swap for Lillard
Lowry, Caleb, Oladipo, #16, 2028, 2030 and 2027 FRP swap for Lillard

We draft with our #18 pick and Utah's 28th picks.

Waive and stretch Oladipo if not traded.

Re sign Strus and Gabe

Re-sign Love to the 3mil min. (Mostly for locker room vibes)

[DayofMourning]

Portland would be pretty interesting if they could make a Heat trade and came out of draft night with Scoot, Herro, Whitehead and Lively. Thats how you kickstart a rebuild.

Portland has a very good young SG and SF, adding Scoot gives them a very nice young trio at 1-3, how does Herro make sense for them? For this trade to happen Simons or Herro would have to go to a 3rd team, with Simons making 5 mil less, he's the one I'd keep.

Whatever Portland does, they need a defensive center to protect the paint, they have to move away from Nukic.

I dont think Portland can look at their pieces and say "we r set" at any position. When you can add talent to a rebuild, you do it. May the cream rise to the top.

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[MettaWorldPanda]

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Porzingis opting in gives us a great chance to trade for him. Maybe Jeff Schwartz heats favorite agent working on some things

[MettaWorldPanda]

Porzingis on Jokic and Bam on Gordon would have been just what we needed

[ShulaDon92]

Porzingis on Jokic and Bam on Gordon would have been just what we needed

Yea an Ingram/Porzingis type would have helped against Denver.

Ingram has a better bag but Porzingis has better shot blocking

We need a tall guy that can generate offense and get whistles and can stretch the floor

-SHULA

[AirP.]

Portland would be pretty interesting if they could make a Heat trade and came out of draft night with Scoot, Herro, Whitehead and Lively. Thats how you kickstart a rebuild.

Portland has a very good young SG and SF, adding Scoot gives them a very nice young trio at 1-3, how does Herro make sense for them? For this trade to happen Simons or Herro would have to go to a 3rd team, with Simons making 5 mil less, he's the one I'd keep.

Whatever Portland does, they need a defensive center to protect the paint, they have to move away from Nukic.

I dont think Portland can look at their pieces and say "we r set" at any position. When you can add talent to a rebuild, you do it. May the cream rise to the top.

I think you can especially when you've already decided to give your current 23 year old SG 100 million dollars. Talk about screwing up a rebuild by drafting a possible franchise PG, having a young and talented SG and SF and throwing in a high volume young scorer (taking the ball away from the other players), that's asking for a lot of problems. Herro needs to be rerouted to a team that wants him way more than Portland would to give more value for Lillard. It really seems like a poor rebuild plan to go with 2 22+ million dollar young players... playing same position.

Right now, Portland is looking for a star in a package using their 2 of their top assets in the #3 and Simons. I don't really see anything out there that makes sense, rebuilding does.

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[MettaWorldPanda]

Portland has a very good young SG and SF, adding Scoot gives them a very nice young trio at 1-3, how does Herro make sense for them? For this trade to happen Simons or Herro would have to go to a 3rd team, with Simons making 5 mil less, he's the one I'd keep.

Whatever Portland does, they need a defensive center to protect the paint, they have to move away from Nukic.

I dont think Portland can look at their pieces and say "we r set" at any position. When you can add talent to a rebuild, you do it. May the cream rise to the top.

I think you can especially when you've already decided to give your current 23 year old SG 100 million dollars. Talk about screwing up a rebuild by drafting a possible franchise PG, having a young and talented SG and SF and throwing in a high volume young scorer (taking the ball away from the other players), that's asking for a lot of problems. Herro needs to be rerouted to a team that wants him way more than Portland would to give more value for Lillard. It really seems like a poor rebuild plan to go with 2 22+ million dollar young players... playing same position.

Right now, Portland is looking for a star in a package using their 2 of their top assets in the #3 and Simons. I don't really see anything out there that makes sense, rebuilding does.

I think Portland is going to have some options out there in trade. With Pels already inquiring about Scoot and them possibly looking to deal Ingram or Williamson to do it. Pels are flush with some young talent that needs opportunity so seeing them deal Ingram to the Blazers to free up time for the much cheaper Murphy is something not out of the realm of possibilities. I would also look at Toronto who is going to have a need at both the 1 and 2 with Van Vleet and Trent Jr heading out the door. With Siakim heading into his final year they may look to cash in on him rerouting him to Portland for Simons and Scoot. Portland would then take over the Raptors 13th pick.

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This would be Miami's shot at long term greatness if they could do it without moving Butler or Bam. You put him in Miami's environment, maybe get him to work out with Butler an offseason or 2 to get him back on course and with that Miami may have that top 5 player that's usually needed to win a Championship. It's risky but for a top tier talent you sometimes have to take risks. With a front court of Bam, Zion and Butler you can add multiple 3pt shooters who will play defense and have a team worthy of being a legit contender for a championship.

Of course I would want to see Zion's most recent medicals.

[greg4012]

Porzingis def scares me with his injury history, but damn that would be a sweet pairing next to Bam. I always thought he would opt out to seek a new deal this offseason (since he had his best and healthiest season). With that, I didn't think he was realistically in play for us. But, this news is encouraging.

Either way, I believe Washington entering a rebuild (which is the smart play for them) is very likely key for Miami being able to make moves to improve the roster without being absurdly price gouged (or outbid).

Miami trading Lowry, Herro, Duncan, and Oladipo plus 2-3 FRPs for Porzingis and Beal makes our squad extremely potent. It's also somewhat realistic considering (a) Porzingis is a 1-year rental before hitting free agency--he legitimately may be impossible to keep and (b) Beal has a no trade clause and is widely considered to be an albatross contract.

Vincent - Dragic - developmental prospect
Beal - Martin - vet min/developmental prospect
Butler - Martin - Highsmith
Bam - Jovic/Crowder
Porzingis - Vet min

Depth will be depleted, but that's the best and most balanced starting 5 in the league and realistically provides a reliable 8-man rotation

[unowen85]

I think Riley can pull off getting Rozier and Porzingis while keeping the core of Butler/Herro/Adebayo intact.

Make it happen, Riley.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Porzingis def scares me with his injury history, but damn that would be a sweet pairing next to Bam. I always thought he would opt out to seek a new deal this offseason (since he had his best and healthiest season). With that, I didn't think he was realistically in play for us. But, this news is encouraging.

Either way, I believe Washington entering a rebuild (which is the smart play for them) is very likely key for Miami being able to make moves to improve the roster without being absurdly price gouged (our outbid).

Miami trading Lowry, Herro, Duncan, and Oladipo plus 2-3 FRPs for Porzingis and Beal makes our squad extremely potent. It's also somewhat realistic considering (a) Porzingis is a 1-year rental before hitting free agency--he legitimately may be impossible to keep and (b) Beal has a no trade clause and is widely considered to be an albatross contract.

Vincent - Dragic - developmental prospect
Beal - Martin - vet min/developmental prospect
Butler - Martin - Highsmith
Bam - Jovic/Crowder
Porzingis - Vet min

Depth will be depleted, but that's the best and most balanced starting 5 in the league and realistically provides a reliable 8-man rotation

Amazing how we can match those two contracts with that group. I believe it's 84 out and 82 in. Boom lol

[MettaWorldPanda]

I think Riley can pull off getting Rozier and Porzingis while keeping the core of Butler/Herro/Adebayo intact.

Make it happen, Riley.

Salary cap disagrees lol

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Y’all think Lillard is Lowry or something lol? He was the best PG in the league this season and is a top 10 player who’s game will age very well

He might have scored more points and put up some nice stats on a total trash team this season, but Lillard has never been, and never will be, the best PG as long as Steph is in the league lol.

I didn’t say he’s better than Steph. SGA had a better season than Steph, he’s not better than Steph. They don’t mean the same thing

Regardless the point stands, he’s an elite player in the league that actually does every thing this team is missing and it’s laughable to compare what he may be at 36 with Lowry now at 36. He’s tiers and tiers above the player Lowry ever was. Keep nitpicking brotha

[greg4012]

Porzingis def scares me with his injury history, but damn that would be a sweet pairing next to Bam. I always thought he would opt out to seek a new deal this offseason (since he had his best and healthiest season). With that, I didn't think he was realistically in play for us. But, this news is encouraging.

Either way, I believe Washington entering a rebuild (which is the smart play for them) is very likely key for Miami being able to make moves to improve the roster without being absurdly price gouged (our outbid).

Miami trading Lowry, Herro, Duncan, and Oladipo plus 2-3 FRPs for Porzingis and Beal makes our squad extremely potent. It's also somewhat realistic considering (a) Porzingis is a 1-year rental before hitting free agency--he legitimately may be impossible to keep and (b) Beal has a no trade clause and is widely considered to be an albatross contract.

Vincent - Dragic - developmental prospect
Beal - Martin - vet min/developmental prospect
Butler - Martin - Highsmith
Bam - Jovic/Crowder
Porzingis - Vet min

Depth will be depleted, but that's the best and most balanced starting 5 in the league and realistically provides a reliable 8-man rotation

Amazing how we can match those two contracts with that group. I believe it's 84 out and 82 in. Boom lol

One of the sticking points could be the length of Duncan's contract tbh

[MettaWorldPanda]

Considering all the chatter on the third pick I think the Blazers end up getting something of significance putting the Dame rumors to rest rather early. Good for us cause we can't have anymore summers of uncertainty.

[DayofMourning]

Portland has a very good young SG and SF, adding Scoot gives them a very nice young trio at 1-3, how does Herro make sense for them? For this trade to happen Simons or Herro would have to go to a 3rd team, with Simons making 5 mil less, he's the one I'd keep.

Whatever Portland does, they need a defensive center to protect the paint, they have to move away from Nukic.

I dont think Portland can look at their pieces and say "we r set" at any position. When you can add talent to a rebuild, you do it. May the cream rise to the top.

I think you can especially when you've already decided to give your current 23 year old SG 100 million dollars. Talk about screwing up a rebuild by drafting a possible franchise PG, having a young and talented SG and SF and throwing in a high volume young scorer (taking the ball away from the other players), that's asking for a lot of problems. Herro needs to be rerouted to a team that wants him way more than Portland would to give more value for Lillard. It really seems like a poor rebuild plan to go with 2 22+ million dollar young players... playing same position.

Right now, Portland is looking for a star in a package using their 2 of their top assets in the #3 and Simons. I don't really see anything out there that makes sense, rebuilding does.

Theyre not going to be worth a darn for several years. Theyve got to pay someone. Might as well pay someone with potential and see how it works out. If it doesnt, you have an asset.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Porzingis def scares me with his injury history, but damn that would be a sweet pairing next to Bam. I always thought he would opt out to seek a new deal this offseason (since he had his best and healthiest season). With that, I didn't think he was realistically in play for us. But, this news is encouraging.

Either way, I believe Washington entering a rebuild (which is the smart play for them) is very likely key for Miami being able to make moves to improve the roster without being absurdly price gouged (our outbid).

Miami trading Lowry, Herro, Duncan, and Oladipo plus 2-3 FRPs for Porzingis and Beal makes our squad extremely potent. It's also somewhat realistic considering (a) Porzingis is a 1-year rental before hitting free agency--he legitimately may be impossible to keep and (b) Beal has a no trade clause and is widely considered to be an albatross contract.

Vincent - Dragic - developmental prospect
Beal - Martin - vet min/developmental prospect
Butler - Martin - Highsmith
Bam - Jovic/Crowder
Porzingis - Vet min

Depth will be depleted, but that's the best and most balanced starting 5 in the league and realistically provides a reliable 8-man rotation

Amazing how we can match those two contracts with that group. I believe it's 84 out and 82 in. Boom lol

One of the sticking points could be the length of Duncan's contract tbh

That damn contract continues to haunt hahahaha. Porzingis alone is probably the more realistic option with Lowry, Oladipo, and picks