2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA

[MettaWorldPanda]

Jaquez is a hybrid 3/4 that Spo is force feeding into a ball handling role. Jaquez was a 4 at UCLA. Spo tries to make everyone into a PG in his positionless hocus pocus basketball scheme. Crazy how he thinks he can make everyone into Lebron and not have to rely on a PG. This team at its best ran on Dragic and transitioned into QB1 Lowry. How can the FO at this point not find any suitable PG replacement and keep running Herro as the primary ball handler mixed with others? I know they were relying on Dru Smith but damn. Stop being so bad at roster construction.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Butler saying anyone but Miami and Memphis is an indirect way of saying Phoenix only, because it seems like Phoenix and Memphis are the only ones with an interest and packages to suit, and he knows that Memphis just wants him for a short time like Miami. This statement of "Anyone but Miami (and Memphis)" sounds more accommodating but is effectively the same as he knows there is no other option out there to reject.

Once the deadline comes he’ll be faced with having to stay here or going to Memphis. He’ll probably tap out and finish out in Memphis. Suns are trying to find a taker for Beal and that’s why they just traded for 3 first rd picks.

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[wade44]

MWP you gotta stop teasing us bro. Jimmy to Memphis has got to happen already

[MettaWorldPanda]

MWP you gotta stop teasing us bro. Jimmy to Memphis has got to happen already

2:59.59 EST on Feb 6th

[Pokuokic]

Jaquez is a hybrid 3/4 that Spo is force feeding into a ball handling role. Jaquez was a 4 at UCLA. Spo tries to make everyone into a PG in his positionless hocus pocus basketball scheme. Crazy how he thinks he can make everyone into Lebron and not have to rely on a PG. This team at its best ran on Dragic and transitioned into QB1 Lowry. How can the FO at this point not find any suitable PG replacement and keep running Herro as the primary ball handler mixed with others? I know they were relying on Dru Smith but damn. Stop being so bad at roster construction.

He's a post up SG imo he thrives against smaller Sgs and PGs he can bully but can't really do much against big wings. At 6'6 without any real physical gifts he can't be a effective 3/4. He reminds me of Bonzi Wells but smarter and a bit less strong.

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MWP you gotta stop teasing us bro. Jimmy to Memphis has got to happen already

2:59.59 EST on Feb 6th

PM or AM?

[batterybro42]

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Kal’el al Giab

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Wild stuff

Spo got his eyes on the 2025 draft?!

See you all in the 2025 Draft thread lol

Do you guys actually think we're trying to win basketball games. Spo letting these guys do things I never thought I'd see. Terry has been given a license do whatever he wants to get his mojo back it feels like. We're low key tanking and I'm here for it. Agree with Greg

We keep putting a guy on the floor who is playing for the opposing team, so no, I don't think we're trying to win.

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Doesn't Rozier pattern his game after DWade too?

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Doesn't Rozier pattern his game after DWade too?

This Wade?

[3ballbomber]

We aren’t trading Bam. The organisation is high on mental midget. One down season is no reason to give up on a player we’ve committed time to develop. Time & roster upgrade will tell how Bam will develop. By then our roster may be significantly improved we won’t need to rely heavily on Bam’s offense & he becomes valuable in his role as defender/rebounder/screener.

It’s development season & this comes w/ mistakes & lost gm’s as part of the process. This will make Spo look incompetent at times but we all know he is a highly respected coach in the league that other teams wld love to lead their teams. I’ve said it many times i love watching us play win or lose. I love the whole process. One day glory will be ours once more. For now it takes patience.

Can’t wait what we’re cookin’ up for Jimmy’s trade.

[greg4012]

Jaquez is a hybrid 3/4 that Spo is force feeding into a ball handling role. Jaquez was a 4 at UCLA. Spo tries to make everyone into a PG in his positionless hocus pocus basketball scheme. Crazy how he thinks he can make everyone into Lebron and not have to rely on a PG. This team at its best ran on Dragic and transitioned into QB1 Lowry. How can the FO at this point not find any suitable PG replacement and keep running Herro as the primary ball handler mixed with others? I know they were relying on Dru Smith but damn. Stop being so bad at roster construction.

There was a 7 apg Jimmy season in there to bridge from post-bubble Dragic (hurt/washed) and Lowry. I think it was Jimmy’s last All-NBA season

[Beenie]

Hate to say it, and I know it's early, but Jacquez is reminding me a lot of Winslow. His inability to shoot really hinders us, and it seems that we essentially need to cater the offense around him in order for him to play well.

I think playing him out of position doesn't help either, because he's only slightly above average in terms of size and athleticism.

Winslow could always defend at a high level

Bam is giving me Winslow vibes

Fantastic defender but can’t shoot a lick from the outside and is a habitual bunny blower on the inside

[batterybro42]

He has legitimately been trying to do it every offseason throughout his entire career, it has been so bad that they have not even bothered having him attempt then until now, but they are trying to do it so they can make the pairing work.

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A few posts ago you really tried to make the comparison between Anthony Davis and Bam in regards to their perimeter game. They are in entirely different leagues. Any team in the league will happily allow Bam to shoot anywhere from the mid range extended, it is bad offense.

Anthony Davis career FG% by distance
3-10 feet: 45.8% (22% of FGA)
10-16 feet: 42.1% (16% of FGA)
16-3P: 37.9% (18% of FGA)
3P: 29.8%

From last season's All-Star break to present, Anthony Davis is shooting 29.5% from 3 on 2 3PA per game.

Bam Adebayo career FG% by distance
3-10 feet: 46% (32% of FGA)
10-16 feet: 43% (21% of FGA)
16-3P: 33.5% (6% of FGA)
3P: 24%

From last season's All-Star break to present, Bam Adebayo is shooting 31% from 3 on 2 3PA per game.



Anthony Davis is a superior overall offensive player to Bam. I'm not arguing against that in the slightest. Anthony Davis is NOT in an "entirely different league" than Bam when it comes to perimeter game. AD is only a better shooter career-wise from 16 feet to the 3 pt line--and both are below 40%. I'd argue (and somewhat agree with you) that it's bad offense for either of those players to be taking those shots. Fortunately, Bam has always made it a much smaller percentage of his shot diet than AD.

AD is a superior offensive player to Bam mostly bc his scoring in proximity to the rim is on another level. He also has benefited from elite playmakers. Bam ain't about to become AD, but in terms of his functionality in a modern offense while playing with another big, it is absolutely an informative comparison.

Bam is going through a shooting slump and adapting to a shifted role and some of you all are losing your damn minds (or just being opportunistic in voicing resentments you've always had).

His playmaking has gone up this year and his role will continue to evolve with the mid-season insertion of Ware into the lineup.

If you actually watch the games it’s not a simple as you want to make it seem here in the metrics.

Bam is legitimately invited to shoot the basketball often times he isn’t even defended anywhere outside the paint aside from drive denials. It has no gravity or effect on the offense at all except for being a negative. It is not efficient and is a win for the defense every time if a Miami possession ends with Bam taking a mid range to a 3 point shot.

Anthony Davis is a proven shot maker in this league, if you leave him open he will bury that shot. He holds gravity everywhere on the offensive end and is a legitimate scorer of the basketball, and is defended like one.

Bam gets his points mainly because the defense allows him to take those really bad inefficient free throw line looks, and points off try hard dunk man stuff. He has no game, absolutely zero bag on offense. When he has great nights it’s often because the defense made the calculated gamble to let him shoot, and it just happened to not work out in their favor.

Now Miami is moving away from Bam being the try hard dunk man because we have a better one, and you can see the result. Now we have people pretending like he’s a 22 year old developing player and not an 8 year NBA veteran. He’s a great player but at 60 million dollars a year that juice isn’t worth the squeeze when you have a more talented big 7 years younger who is a better rim protector, better shooter, and a better lob threat. Not many guys not playing the 5 in this league who can’t shoot who are at the top of the game. Maybe you can provide some comps, also before you bring up the 2020 Lakers consider that was half a decade ago and the game has changed dramatically, and we don’t have a top 5 player in the games history on this team to carry, but you might be able to go really get some fire power to surround Ware and Herro with over 120 million in cap space and war chest of draft capital.

Bam might be one of the worst max players in the NBA that isn’t in their mid 30s and physically washed.

The Mercedes Benz of Joel Anthony’s

The Ja Morant of Willie Reeds

[Beenie]

We aren’t trading Bam. The organisation is high on mental midget. One down season is no reason to give up on a player we’ve committed time to develop. Time & roster upgrade will tell how Bam will develop. By then our roster may be significantly improved we won’t need to rely heavily on Bam’s offense & he becomes valuable in his role as defender/rebounder/screener.

It’s development season & this comes w/ mistakes & lost gm’s as part of the process. This will make Spo look incompetent at times but we all know he is a highly respected coach in the league that other teams wld love to lead their teams. I’ve said it many times i love watching us play win or lose. I love the whole process. One day glory will be ours once more. For now it takes patience.

Can’t wait what we’re cookin’ up for Jimmy’s trade.

If/ when Bam finishes the year under 30% from 3, FO is gonna need to have a serious convo about the long term fit between Bam n Ware.

Factor in Niko being up for an extension, some tough calls will have to be made about the future build of this team.

[greg4012]

He has legitimately been trying to do it every offseason throughout his entire career, it has been so bad that they have not even bothered having him attempt then until now, but they are trying to do it so they can make the pairing work.

Fan fiction

A few posts ago you really tried to make the comparison between Anthony Davis and Bam in regards to their perimeter game. They are in entirely different leagues. Any team in the league will happily allow Bam to shoot anywhere from the mid range extended, it is bad offense.

Anthony Davis career FG% by distance
3-10 feet: 45.8% (22% of FGA)
10-16 feet: 42.1% (16% of FGA)
16-3P: 37.9% (18% of FGA)
3P: 29.8%

From last season's All-Star break to present, Anthony Davis is shooting 29.5% from 3 on 2 3PA per game.

Bam Adebayo career FG% by distance
3-10 feet: 46% (32% of FGA)
10-16 feet: 43% (21% of FGA)
16-3P: 33.5% (6% of FGA)
3P: 24%

From last season's All-Star break to present, Bam Adebayo is shooting 31% from 3 on 2 3PA per game.



Anthony Davis is a superior overall offensive player to Bam. I'm not arguing against that in the slightest. Anthony Davis is NOT in an "entirely different league" than Bam when it comes to perimeter game. AD is only a better shooter career-wise from 16 feet to the 3 pt line--and both are below 40%. I'd argue (and somewhat agree with you) that it's bad offense for either of those players to be taking those shots. Fortunately, Bam has always made it a much smaller percentage of his shot diet than AD.

AD is a superior offensive player to Bam mostly bc his scoring in proximity to the rim is on another level. He also has benefited from elite playmakers. Bam ain't about to become AD, but in terms of his functionality in a modern offense while playing with another big, it is absolutely an informative comparison.

Bam is going through a shooting slump and adapting to a shifted role and some of you all are losing your damn minds (or just being opportunistic in voicing resentments you've always had).

His playmaking has gone up this year and his role will continue to evolve with the mid-season insertion of Ware into the lineup.

If you actually watch the games it’s not a simple as you want to make it seem here in the metrics.

Bam is legitimately invited to shoot the basketball often times he isn’t even defended anywhere outside the paint aside from drive denials. It has no gravity or effect on the offense at all except for being a negative. It is not efficient and is a win for the defense every time if a Miami possession ends with Bam taking a mid range to a 3 point shot.

Anthony Davis is a proven shot maker in this league, if you leave him open he will bury that shot. He holds gravity everywhere on the offensive end and is a legitimate scorer of the basketball, and is defended like one.

Bam gets his points mainly because the defense allows him to take those really bad inefficient free throw line looks, and points off try hard dunk man stuff. He has no game, absolutely zero bag on offense. When he has great nights it’s often because the defense made the calculated gamble to let him shoot, and it just happened to not work out in their favor.

Now Miami is moving away from Bam being the try hard dunk man because we have a better one, and you can see the result. Now we have people pretending like he’s a 22 year old developing player and not an 8 year NBA veteran. He’s a great player but at 60 million dollars a year that juice isn’t worth the squeeze when you have a more talented big 7 years younger who is a better rim protector, better shooter, and a better lob threat. Not many guys not playing the 5 in this league who can’t shoot who are at the top of the game. Maybe you can provide some comps, also before you bring up the 2020 Lakers consider that was half a decade ago and the game has changed dramatically, and we don’t have a top 5 player in the games history on this team to carry, but you might be able to go really get some fire power to surround Ware and Herro with over 120 million in cap space and war chest of draft capital.

Bam might be one of the worst max players in the NBA that isn’t in their mid 30s and physically washed.

The Mercedes Benz of Joel Anthony’s

The Ja Morant of Willie Reeds

Love the desperate nonsense you turn to when every fraudulent statement gets refuted and you have nothing else to turn to.

“If you only watched bro!”

Throw in a sad attempt at being clever (leave that to more creative ppl than yourself)

All the while make sure you constantly move the goalposts to cover for your original uneducated statements that you throw out based on pure emotion!

Distract and deflect! Can’t have anyone dwelling on all the dumb sh*t you said!

Own up to it instead of always backtracking and defaulting to the same tired crying.

You said a bunch of nonsense and are desperately attempting to bridge the gap to normalize it now.

The freak out about raw numbers in an inflationary salary cap NBA is pure scare tactic. Talk % of cap or sit down and learn

Yawn.

I’m going to enjoy you continuing to cry about this. I bet you were the type that always thought he was destined to be Tristan Thompson.

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Damn.

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