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2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26

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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#401 » by jele » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:25 pm

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jele wrote:Bam is a total failure for this organization. I wonder what's Pat Riley thinking as he realizes this. People need to stop pretending like he is some kind of star o cornerstone for this organization. When can we trade (how soon) his 4ss?


This is the over reaction on the other side. He's a massive success from where he was picked on. Any team would want him. The problem with Miami is he's miscast and the amount of money he's making. This team needs him to be the best or 2nd best player but his role is 3rd best player on a championship team. If he got was put on the market he would get offers. There is a lot of teams where Bam would put them over the top. For the 50 mil he would be making, I would like to see him being a consistent high level offensive player. But that doesn't mean his not a high impact player. And if this is who he was his whole career it would be a great success.

Maybe a little over reaction but it is true. When you pay a player 50 millions, you expect a player to dominate night in night out. He did not lived up to expectations. Bam is a good player but no way a max player. Pat Riley make a bad decision on paying him this amount of money. There is no way other would have paid him the max.
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#402 » by HeatFan_NC » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:26 pm

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SerialChiller wrote:If we did totally blow it up I'd be happy as long as Spo is included in that.
He's had a gawd awful year, but nah man. Who's even out there to replace him? This teams' problem is once again a lack of top tier talent.

Put Spo on the Milwaukee Bucks for ex. & they'd be up there with CLE/BOS imo.

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I've said it before and will say it again: Riles needs to retire and Spo should take his spot. Bring in Mike Malone as HC.

Brad Stevens could still be coaching in the league, but BOS put him in the front office and look how that has worked out for them. Let Spo build the team instead of forcing him to coach players someone else has picked
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#403 » by balla345 » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:27 pm

Yeah big changes need to happen this year
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#404 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:27 pm

oreon wrote:I know Rozier got hurt before this game but even if he wasn't hurt he wouldn't have touched the floor. I can't remember a trade where a team gave a 1st round pick where the player they got back was unplayable the next season in the playoffs.


Can’t think of one where they traded their best player and the main guy the received back was basically 6’8 Rozier either
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#405 » by Vertical Limit » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:27 pm

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Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Anyone who thinks all we need to do is get 37 year old Kevin Durant to fix this is smoking crack. You could put KD on this roster as is without even giving up any assets we still aren’t contenders.


Thank you for that statement. KD isn't going to solve the problems we have

Im not making that trade… but everything that i know about this team having been a fan for so many years, says theyre going for it..

My offseason moves… Trade Wiggins for expirings and picks..

Buyout those expirings

Buyout Andersen, Rozier, Robinson

Explore what you can get for Herro..

If nothing, do not extend Herro, wait till hes a free agent before you open those talks..

Do everything to open up 2026 free agency and have a max slot..
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#406 » by HeatFan_NC » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:28 pm

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oreon wrote:
jele wrote:Bam is a total failure for this organization. I wonder what's Pat Riley thinking as he realizes this. People need to stop pretending like he is some kind of star o cornerstone for this organization. When can we trade (how soon) his 4ss?


This is the over reaction on the other side. He's a massive success from where he was picked on. Any team would want him. The problem with Miami is he's miscast and the amount of money he's making. This team needs him to be the best or 2nd best player but his role is 3rd best player on a championship team. If he got was put on the market he would get offers. There is a lot of teams where Bam would put them over the top. For the 50 mil he would be making, I would like to see him being a consistent high level offensive player. But that doesn't mean his not a high impact player. And if this is who he was his whole career it would be a great success.

Maybe a little over reaction but it is true. When you pay a player 50 millions, you expect a player to dominate night in night out. He did not lived up to expectations. Bam is a good player but no way a max player. Pat Riley make a bad decision on paying him this amount of money. There is no way other would have paid him the max.


Thank you! He's good but not a superstar max level player. He can't carry a team. He should be making half what he is getting paid
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#407 » by Tony15 » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:30 pm

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SerialChiller wrote:If we did totally blow it up I'd be happy as long as Spo is included in that.
He's had a gawd awful year, but nah man. Who's even out there to replace him? This teams' problem is once again a lack of top tier talent.

Put Spo on the Milwaukee Bucks for ex. & they'd be up there with CLE/BOS imo.

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If it's a full rebuild who cares, we need a coach to play the young guys, he won't.
Definitely makes rebuilding the OKC way impossible....the FO would have to give Spo no choice & sell off Bam/Tyler/Wiggins/Terry? & try to get off of Duncan's contract and I highly doubt that's in the cards.

On the plus side....unlike last season, we don't have the plausible excuse of Jimmy going down prior to POs.

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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#408 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:30 pm

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oreon wrote:
jele wrote:Bam is a total failure for this organization. I wonder what's Pat Riley thinking as he realizes this. People need to stop pretending like he is some kind of star o cornerstone for this organization. When can we trade (how soon) his 4ss?


This is the over reaction on the other side. He's a massive success from where he was picked on. Any team would want him. The problem with Miami is he's miscast and the amount of money he's making. This team needs him to be the best or 2nd best player but his role is 3rd best player on a championship team. If he got was put on the market he would get offers. There is a lot of teams where Bam would put them over the top. For the 50 mil he would be making, I would like to see him being a consistent high level offensive player. But that doesn't mean his not a high impact player. And if this is who he was his whole career it would be a great success.

Maybe a little over reaction but it is true. When you pay a player 50 millions, you expect a player to dominate night in night out. He did not lived up to expectations. Bam is a good player but no way a max player. Pat Riley make a bad decision on paying him this amount of money. There is no way other would have paid him the max.


For context Bam won’t be making $50M a year until the season after next and it’s still basically takes up the same percentage of our overall salary cap as his current contract
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#409 » by oreon » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:33 pm

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jele wrote:
oreon wrote:
This is the over reaction on the other side. He's a massive success from where he was picked on. Any team would want him. The problem with Miami is he's miscast and the amount of money he's making. This team needs him to be the best or 2nd best player but his role is 3rd best player on a championship team. If he got was put on the market he would get offers. There is a lot of teams where Bam would put them over the top. For the 50 mil he would be making, I would like to see him being a consistent high level offensive player. But that doesn't mean his not a high impact player. And if this is who he was his whole career it would be a great success.

Maybe a little over reaction but it is true. When you pay a player 50 millions, you expect a player to dominate night in night out. He did not lived up to expectations. Bam is a good player but no way a max player. Pat Riley make a bad decision on paying him this amount of money. There is no way other would have paid him the max.


Thank you! He's good but not a superstar max level player. He can't carry a team. He should be making half what he is getting paid


Half is too low. I'd be okay with the money he's making now with the cap going up. Around 30 -35 mil. Which would be around 17 % -20% of the cap in 2026-2027 (170 mil) when his extension kicks in. As opposed to 50 mil which around 29 %
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#410 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:33 pm

Between Wiggins Terry Duncan Anderson and Love that’s $90M in dead salary cap space. We have much bigger issues than debating on Bam or even Herro who still hasn’t shown he’s a playoff player being overpaid. Swap that $90M out with some legitimate talent like a star and 2-3 damn good role players who can play both sides of the ball and we’ll be worlds better
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#411 » by unowen85 » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:34 pm

Shewasfly wrote:40 point loss on our home floor. Wow.

UD is somewhere flipping tables over lol


Meanwhile Bam is probably gonna take Mitchell out to dinner after the game. Smh.
For a long time it gave me nightmares,witnessing an injustice like that.It’s a constant reminder of just how unfair this world can be.I can still hear them taunting him, Silly Rabbit tricks are for kids.I mean why couldn’t they just give him some cereal?
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Post#412 » by Beenie » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:36 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Between Wiggins Terry Duncan Anderson and Love that’s $90M in dead salary cap space. We have much bigger issues than debating on Bam or even Herro who still hasn’t shown he’s a playoff player being overpaid. Swap that $90M out with some legitimate talent like a star and 2-3 damn good role players who can play both sides of the ball and we’ll be worlds better


Agreed

Blow it up

Use Bam n Herro to stock pile picks n to get off some bad contracts
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#413 » by insfo » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:37 pm

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Shewasfly wrote:40 point loss on our home floor. Wow.

UD is somewhere flipping tables over lol


Meanwhile Bam is probably gonna take Mitchell out to dinner after the game. Smh.


Do it Bam! That's how he'll recruit Mitchell to join us in the 2035 offseason. After that, championship time!!!
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#414 » by wade44 » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:39 pm

We’re going to be paying a role player 50m a year and another role player potentially 50m per year to have a 1st round out ceiling. This is rock bottom
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#415 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:39 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Between Wiggins Terry Duncan Anderson and Love that’s $90M in dead salary cap space. We have much bigger issues than debating on Bam or even Herro who still hasn’t shown he’s a playoff player being overpaid. Swap that $90M out with some legitimate talent like a star and 2-3 damn good role players who can play both sides of the ball and we’ll be worlds better


Agreed

Blow it up

Use Bam n Herro to stock pile picks n to get off some bad contracts


I’m down, get Bam somewhere he can compete for championships and get Tyler somewhere that he may be able to impact winning in a Ty Jerome/Deandre Hunter type role.
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#416 » by SoFlaKingReal » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:40 pm

Thats the beauty of owning next year's pick. Now, the full rebuild can begin.
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Post#417 » by Heat3 » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:41 pm

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Tony15 wrote:
SerialChiller wrote:If we did totally blow it up I'd be happy as long as Spo is included in that.
He's had a gawd awful year, but nah man. Who's even out there to replace him? This teams' problem is once again a lack of top tier talent.

Put Spo on the Milwaukee Bucks for ex. & they'd be up there with CLE/BOS imo.

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I've said it before and will say it again: Riles needs to retire and Spo should take his spot. Bring in Mike Malone as HC.

Brad Stevens could still be coaching in the league, but BOS put him in the front office and look how that has worked out for them. Let Spo build the team instead of forcing him to coach players someone else has picked


Spo hasn't shown anything to make me think he can build a franchise. He's a coach and often very stubborn about his system and how he uses players. Guys get buried on the bench even if they have big contracts lessening their value. From my pov Spo has tunnel vision where all he's focused on is winning the next game. Short term gains over long term building.
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#418 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:41 pm

SoFlaKingReal wrote:Thats the beauty of owning next year's pick. Now, the full rebuild can begin.


These idiots are going to scratch and claw their way to the play in and bottom seed of the playoffs again though is the problem
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#419 » by Beenie » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:43 pm

If Dal moves up in the lotto, Mia losing their pick this year will truly be unforgivable

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Post#420 » by Kobewade11 » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:47 pm

Beenie wrote:If Dal moves up in the lotto, Mia losing their pick this year will truly be unforgivable

FO heads better roll

Or what?

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