2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 4: Cleveland @ Miami - 7:30pm EST on 4/28
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Beenie wrote:Kobewade11 wrote:Beenie wrote:
The prize is the shame the team will hopefully feel to compel them to make wholesale changes.
we'll see.
Down nearly 50 just about 3 quarters into an elimination game on their homecourt.
Whatever silver-lining nuance you can manufacture that justifies running it back hopefully is gets rejected by whatever reasonable voices within the org, assuming they even exist.
You'll get over it, we all will
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Wiggins / Rozier / Duncan are dead weight. That's like 70m in salary. That's a max contract player + a role player.
Poor roster construction is what did us in ultimately.
Poor roster construction is what did us in ultimately.
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Maybe we can trade up for a higher pick 
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TNT really rubbing it in with Butler making out with a piece of cheese or something in his corvette during a commercial
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Tim_Hardawayy wrote:DayofMourning wrote:Tim_Hardawayy wrote:People just discussing Heat past, since there's nothing in the present worth talking about. I wanted to talk about the 90's Heat but I'm too old some of you weren't even around for that.
I remember convulsing when Houston hit that shot. That was the worst.
Both killed me. But the Weatherspoon one hurt more for me for some reason. We had just got done absolutely crushing the Pistons with Zo looking the best he ever had, really felt like he turned the corner as a player from a hothead to a more cerebral guy (better passing, less turnovers, was hitting his free throws and getting to the line a ton). Also knowing it was probably Timmy's last year as a prime time player with Anthony Carter outplaying him half the time.
And then seeing **** Mashburn, once again afraid of the moment, getting to do his Allan Houston impression but doesn't even LOOK at the rim, and immediately throws it to Clarence Weatherspoon of all people, who puts up the brickest of bricks. What a terrible ending to that 4 year saga. That was our year to get to the Finals and get crushed by the Lakers (yeah I know but still, at least getting to the Finals would have been huge for this city).
Go to 2:05:56 for the last shot.
Oh man. The best thing that happened to me at that point in my life was being super poor and having to work when ole Clarence clunked that phucker. Thank the lord I didnt watch that. Might not be here today.
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It's really going to sting watching Ty Jerome, Max Strus, and De'Andre Hunter play like doodoo against real competition.
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RRR3 wrote:Shewasfly wrote:RRR3 wrote:2011 is arguably the single reason LeBron isn't considered GOAT by the majority rn. But sure he intentionally ruined his legacy
No, he's not considered the GOAT because Michael Jordan is a far superior player. In every single way. Hope this helps!
MIchael Jordan wasn't far superior to anyone in the top 10, hate to break it to you. Most of these guys are pretty close.
Nah he's far superior. But you're right otherwise about what comes after being a crap shoot, because I also have Magic, Kareem, Duncan, and Kobe over LeBron too.

Saudades.
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Why has the Warewolf only played 4 minutes
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Spo's finally sitting down for the first time. He's over this sh*t lol
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Lilliard out for rest of playoffs.
Who knows how it would have worked out with the Heat, but it didn't end with a championship for the Bucks either.
Who knows how it would have worked out with the Heat, but it didn't end with a championship for the Bucks either.
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Shewasfly wrote:RRR3 wrote:Shewasfly wrote:No, he's not considered the GOAT because Michael Jordan is a far superior player. In every single way. Hope this helps!
MIchael Jordan wasn't far superior to anyone in the top 10, hate to break it to you. Most of these guys are pretty close.
Nah he's far superior. But you're right otherwise about what comes after being a crap shoot, because I also have Magic, Kareem, Duncan, and Kobe over LeBron too.
This is just telling everyone you don't know **** about basketball dawg
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Holy **** **** Duncan. You worthless ****. So lazy. Play your ass off you thief.
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Tobin is going to die of alcohol poisoning tonight.
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Kobewade11 wrote:Beenie wrote:Kobewade11 wrote:
we'll see.
Down nearly 50 just about 3 quarters into an elimination game on their homecourt.
Whatever silver-lining nuance you can manufacture that justifies running it back hopefully is gets rejected by whatever reasonable voices within the org, assuming they even exist.
You'll get over it, we all will
How many firsts would it take for you to support trading Herro?
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Davion and Jovic with good ball. Not that hard.
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Shewasfly wrote:RRR3 wrote:Shewasfly wrote:No, he's not considered the GOAT because Michael Jordan is a far superior player. In every single way. Hope this helps!
MIchael Jordan wasn't far superior to anyone in the top 10, hate to break it to you. Most of these guys are pretty close.
Nah he's far superior. But you're right otherwise about what comes after being a crap shoot, because I also have Magic, Kareem, Duncan, and Kobe over LeBron too.
Lebron, Kobe, and Duncan had longevity. Who knows if Magic would have had it.
Bird had a 3 year stretch as best player in the league, but he didn't have the longevity.
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Lakers Trade Lebron/Reaves for Hero next year. (So lakers can start buiding around Luka for the future). Then the Heat somehow snatch Giannis.. Get a quick experiment run with Lebron/Giannis/Reaves and see how that goes
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Bring in showtime Spo and atleast give us and the fans in attendance some highlight reel dunks
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I genuinely question if you understand what you're watching if you think Kobe was anywhere close to players like LeBron. Kobe is the Derek Jeter of the NBA, Wade was legit a better player by a decent amount and no one ranks Wade top 10.







