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unowen85 wrote:Holy ****. I just watched the replay of the missed defensive rebound. What the hell was Bam doing? He was moving away from the rim on purpose instead of going for rebound. Wtf
marson wrote:insfo wrote:DayofMourning wrote:We didnt have our 3rd allstar. Wiggins in here and its over.
I know it’s sounds odd, but losing Ware for the 4th quarter seemed to be a momentum shift
Spo has been doing this for the past few games too. Phasing out Ware and letting Bam play center in the closing minutes.
But I agree, he could've been a big defensive presence, and those offensive rebounds by the Knicks might have been avoided.
unowen85 wrote:All this finger pointing at Herro but he gave us a four point lead with less than a minute left. We lost because we couldn’t secure defensive rebound after Brunson missed a three. We get that rebound and then Knicks have to start fouling.
unowen85 wrote:Holy ****. I just watched the replay of the missed defensive rebound. What the hell was Bam doing? He was moving away from the rim on purpose instead of going for rebound. Wtf
MettaWorldPanda wrote:On a side note it does feel like the team is getting better. Knicks are a tough tough team and top 3 in the East so can’t really sweat this one too bad especially after stealing one against the Pacers. Need to take care of business tomorrow. Hopefully Ware’s good to go and nothing pops up from tonight’s Robinson incident.
dshearn wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:On a side note it does feel like the team is getting better. Knicks are a tough tough team and top 3 in the East so can’t really sweat this one too bad especially after stealing one against the Pacers. Need to take care of business tomorrow. Hopefully Ware’s good to go and nothing pops up from tonight’s Robinson incident.
yeah...this....
I think the 4th qtr declines over and over and over are just telling us how close we are. Everything is fine until the 4th qtr and the lack of a legit PG/set up rears its ugly head.
The team spent the offseason rebuilding an offense that never really had the expected players on the court...we got PG issues, we lost Jimmy..... Hell we saw Bron-Wade-Bosh flail around in the beginning ....it should be no surprise our mid-season rebuild is taking time to settle in.
I am impressed, and looking forward to next year. Tank out this one, get the guys we want in the draft, retool the roster with parts that fit and lets go.
DayofMourning wrote:Harper.
Daffy wrote:dshearn wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:On a side note it does feel like the team is getting better. Knicks are a tough tough team and top 3 in the East so can’t really sweat this one too bad especially after stealing one against the Pacers. Need to take care of business tomorrow. Hopefully Ware’s good to go and nothing pops up from tonight’s Robinson incident.
yeah...this....
I think the 4th qtr declines over and over and over are just telling us how close we are. Everything is fine until the 4th qtr and the lack of a legit PG/set up rears its ugly head.
The team spent the offseason rebuilding an offense that never really had the expected players on the court...we got PG issues, we lost Jimmy..... Hell we saw Bron-Wade-Bosh flail around in the beginning ....it should be no surprise our mid-season rebuild is taking time to settle in.
I am impressed, and looking forward to next year. Tank out this one, get the guys we want in the draft, retool the roster with parts that fit and lets go.
If this is signs of our offense to come please have someone shoot me in the left testicle.
jele wrote:Bam played great today. Kudos to him.. Bravo! Having said that, he is not a closer and we need one. Now we him having a max salary and and Hero also having a big contract, is there room (financially) for another another max contract/superstar player? Where are the cap space experts of his forum?
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marson wrote:Shewasfly wrote:marson wrote:Sometimes I wish Bam would just full send it and demand the effin ball and say GTFO ala Kobe/Mike lol
This game he deserves all the shots.
Well I think if anything this proved what I've been saying for awhile, which is that Bam makes a choice to not shoot the ball. It doesn't have anything to do with the offense. Almost all of those plays down the stretch started with the ball in Bam's hands and he set the screen and gave it up instead of taking his man off the dribble like he had the plays before. Even after hitting two ridiculously tough J's back to back. It's almost like he thinks he shouldn't press his luck after he sees some go down
On the other hand you have Tyler. It's kinda crazy that he and Herro are the exact opposite. Tyler will keep shooting no matter what. In fact, in this game he lost all **** composure when he kept missing shots he knows he can normally make and just kept chucking. Imo, I put this one on him above anyone else, with Spo second. You can't keep taking the wind out of the team like that.
It's frustrating because he has all the tools and potential to be a top 10 superstar, but he just can't put it together consistently. It doesn’t help when Herro is chucking shots tonight, though. I really wish UD was still on the bench; I bet he’d be in Bam's ear all game, saying, "Just demand the damn ball, killah!"
Shewasfly wrote:marson wrote:Shewasfly wrote:Well I think if anything this proved what I've been saying for awhile, which is that Bam makes a choice to not shoot the ball. It doesn't have anything to do with the offense. Almost all of those plays down the stretch started with the ball in Bam's hands and he set the screen and gave it up instead of taking his man off the dribble like he had the plays before. Even after hitting two ridiculously tough J's back to back. It's almost like he thinks he shouldn't press his luck after he sees some go down
On the other hand you have Tyler. It's kinda crazy that he and Herro are the exact opposite. Tyler will keep shooting no matter what. In fact, in this game he lost all **** composure when he kept missing shots he knows he can normally make and just kept chucking. Imo, I put this one on him above anyone else, with Spo second. You can't keep taking the wind out of the team like that.
It's frustrating because he has all the tools and potential to be a top 10 superstar, but he just can't put it together consistently. It doesn’t help when Herro is chucking shots tonight, though. I really wish UD was still on the bench; I bet he’d be in Bam's ear all game, saying, "Just demand the damn ball, killah!"
I've never really agreed that Bam has all the tools to be a superstar like others. Physically I can see the argument, but offensively he's never been like that. I've always said its a disservice to him to act like he can be. However he can be a lot more of an impactful player on offense than he is if he just looks for his shot.
Tyler...idk. He doesn't have superstar potential either, but we have seen he can be an all star. Even in this game, in the first half he was brilliant. But my God when he is bad he is awful. Zero basketball IQ. Just goes straight into tunnel vision.
Both our "stars" are just sporadic mentally. One is liable to a coward on any given night, the other is liable to be a complete and utter moron. There is no way you can win consistently with that.
Shewasfly wrote:marson wrote:Shewasfly wrote:Well I think if anything this proved what I've been saying for awhile, which is that Bam makes a choice to not shoot the ball. It doesn't have anything to do with the offense. Almost all of those plays down the stretch started with the ball in Bam's hands and he set the screen and gave it up instead of taking his man off the dribble like he had the plays before. Even after hitting two ridiculously tough J's back to back. It's almost like he thinks he shouldn't press his luck after he sees some go down
On the other hand you have Tyler. It's kinda crazy that he and Herro are the exact opposite. Tyler will keep shooting no matter what. In fact, in this game he lost all **** composure when he kept missing shots he knows he can normally make and just kept chucking. Imo, I put this one on him above anyone else, with Spo second. You can't keep taking the wind out of the team like that.
It's frustrating because he has all the tools and potential to be a top 10 superstar, but he just can't put it together consistently. It doesn’t help when Herro is chucking shots tonight, though. I really wish UD was still on the bench; I bet he’d be in Bam's ear all game, saying, "Just demand the damn ball, killah!"
I've never really agreed that Bam has all the tools to be a superstar like others. Physically I can see the argument, but offensively he's never been like that. I've always said its a disservice to him to act like he can be. However he can be a lot more of an impactful player on offense than he is if he just looks for his shot.
Tyler...idk. He doesn't have superstar potential either, but we have seen he can be an all star. Even in this game, in the first half he was brilliant. But my God when he is bad he is awful. Zero basketball IQ. Just goes straight into tunnel vision.
Both our "stars" are just sporadic mentally. One is liable to a coward on any given night, the other is liable to be a complete and utter moron. There is no way you can win consistently with that.
unowen85 wrote:All this finger pointing at Herro but he gave us a four point lead with less than a minute left. We lost because we couldn’t secure defensive rebound after Brunson missed a three. We get that rebound and then Knicks have to start fouling.
Shewasfly wrote:marson wrote:Shewasfly wrote:Well I think if anything this proved what I've been saying for awhile, which is that Bam makes a choice to not shoot the ball. It doesn't have anything to do with the offense. Almost all of those plays down the stretch started with the ball in Bam's hands and he set the screen and gave it up instead of taking his man off the dribble like he had the plays before. Even after hitting two ridiculously tough J's back to back. It's almost like he thinks he shouldn't press his luck after he sees some go down
On the other hand you have Tyler. It's kinda crazy that he and Herro are the exact opposite. Tyler will keep shooting no matter what. In fact, in this game he lost all **** composure when he kept missing shots he knows he can normally make and just kept chucking. Imo, I put this one on him above anyone else, with Spo second. You can't keep taking the wind out of the team like that.
It's frustrating because he has all the tools and potential to be a top 10 superstar, but he just can't put it together consistently. It doesn’t help when Herro is chucking shots tonight, though. I really wish UD was still on the bench; I bet he’d be in Bam's ear all game, saying, "Just demand the damn ball, killah!"
I've never really agreed that Bam has all the tools to be a superstar like others. Physically I can see the argument, but offensively he's never been like that. I've always said its a disservice to him to act like he can be. However he can be a lot more of an impactful player on offense than he is if he just looks for his shot.
Tyler...idk. He doesn't have superstar potential either, but we have seen he can be an all star. Even in this game, in the first half he was brilliant. But my God when he is bad he is awful. Zero basketball IQ. Just goes straight into tunnel vision.
Both our "stars" are just sporadic mentally. One is liable to a coward on any given night, the other is liable to be a complete and utter moron. There is no way you can win consistently with that.
dshearn wrote:Daffy wrote:dshearn wrote:
yeah...this....
I think the 4th qtr declines over and over and over are just telling us how close we are. Everything is fine until the 4th qtr and the lack of a legit PG/set up rears its ugly head.
The team spent the offseason rebuilding an offense that never really had the expected players on the court...we got PG issues, we lost Jimmy..... Hell we saw Bron-Wade-Bosh flail around in the beginning ....it should be no surprise our mid-season rebuild is taking time to settle in.
I am impressed, and looking forward to next year. Tank out this one, get the guys we want in the draft, retool the roster with parts that fit and lets go.
If this is signs of our offense to come please have someone shoot me in the left testicle.
Sure mate....
we talking .22lr or 50bmg?