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2025 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread

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Re: 2025 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 

Post#421 » by jbsays » Today 2:26 am

Morant reminds me of one of those Riley reclamation products coming off injury, under performing, or out of nowhere... Hardaway, Mason, Starks, and even Zo. Even Shaq and Butler came here because of a dispute with the Lakers.

I don't see how it works with current Heat though unless it's something around Wiggins and Jovic.

Powell is legit, but he's 32. I don't see them giving up Herro for Morant. And how would a Herro and Morant backcourt look?
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Re: 2025 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 

Post#422 » by SA37 » Today 4:36 am

Daffy wrote:
SA37 wrote:I have to applaud the fact that some on here can be wildly optimistic about Davion Mitchell, Jovic, Jakucionis and so on while being unrelentingly pessimistic about players who have already made the all-NBA team, have made multiple all-star teams, and in some cases will be 1st ballot HOFers.


If you're referring to me I have never called or made out any of those current guys to be a star. Even if some fans are optimistic about our current players they can also decide certain "stars" in the league they don't like or are fans of. By your logic if Rudy Gobert is available all of our fans should clamor and rush to want him?

In Ja Morants case let's ignore the stupid suspensions he's caused himself. The fact he publicly basically called out his coaches. Let's also ignore the fact the offense we're currently running he was basically the reason their coach got fired for it because he didn't like it. Its also funny to me the same way yall bash Herro for not showing up in the playoffs Morant basically has done the same outside of 1 series. Let's also ignore the fact Morant misses games whether it's due to injury or suspension. Yes. Lets be delusional.


I wasn't speaking to anyone specifically, it's just a general theme I've seen.

No issue if people don't like certain players or don't think they fit or aren't worth whatever Miami might potentially trade to acquire them...etc. In the case of trading Herro for Morant, which is what I "proposed", Morant is a superior player in every way despite all his faults. I'd rather take a 2-year chance on Morant than give Herro 4 or 5 years at ~$40+M/year. But the "delusion", imo, is Memphis would accept a straight up Herro for Morant swap, which is why I said my "proposal" was largely in jest.

That said, there are star talents that are toxic, and Morant may be one. That is something only the FO can evaluate because they have access to inside information. I think we've seen enough teams take chances on really talented guys and it's blown up in their faces and set back franchises for years if not decades (see: Nets, 76ers, Phoenix, Toronto). In other cases, teams have ended up seeing their trade work out (see: Dallas with Irving or the Clippers with Harden) or they've managed to keep it from completely setting them back (see: Clippers with Paul George).

The larger point here is what you pay/trade for players matters. Morant may go on sale and Miami should do its due diligence if that occurs, and I don't doubt they will.

And Rudy Gobert never was and never will be a star in the NBA. He's an overrated role player, much like Draymond Green, Derrick White, or Jrue Holiday.
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Re: 2025 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 

Post#423 » by Wiltside » Today 5:36 am

jbsays wrote:Morant reminds me of one of those Riley reclamation products coming off injury, under performing, or out of nowhere... Hardaway, Mason, Starks, and even Zo. Even Shaq and Butler came here because of a dispute with the Lakers.

I don't see how it works with current Heat though unless it's something around Wiggins and Jovic.

Powell is legit, but he's 32. I don't see them giving up Herro for Morant. And how would a Herro and Morant backcourt look?


Morant and Herro backcourt would be great. You'd think they'd complement each other pretty well, if Morant can lift his defensive intensity. Offensively he makes up for Herro's lack of athleticism and vert and takes some on ball responsibilities away, whereas Herro has the spacing and secondary playmaker ability to be great in that role.

Spacing wouldn't be ideal, but if Bam can shoot it the way he is, it becomes much less of an issue.

I'd probably want to deal Wiggins, Davion and a pick or two. Whether this is palatable really depends on the other offers Memphis gets for a depressed asset.

Morant / Smith / Jakucionis
Herro / Powell
Larsson / Jaquez
Adebayo / Jovic
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