2019 Heat Offseason thread 4.0- Yimmy and the Kids!

Rafly · Post #461 » by **Rafly** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:44 am

I kinda hope Miami has some interest in Yabusele. Kid needs culture. When the cap situation is figured out they should look into two-waiting him.

Daffy · Post #462 » by **Daffy** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:48 am

Pat Riley to Butler & Westbrook..."There was an idea...to bring together a group of remarkable people. So you could become something more...so when we need you, you could fight the battles that the young guys never could."

If we get Westbrook we're in the end game guys.

Daffy · Post #463 » by **Daffy** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:53 am

If we land Westbrook. Who becomes the face. Who gets the bulk of the shots? I mean Westbrook is the better player.

Cmon_Son-_- · Post #464 » by **Cmon_Son-_-** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:57 am

JustiseForMiami wrote:To Miami: Russell Westbrook, Patrick Patterson, John Henson

To Oklahoma City: Goran Dragic, JR Smith, Justise Winslow, James Johnson, unprotect 2023 1st

To Cleveland: Dion Waiters, Andre Roberson, Derrick Jones Jr, Miami 2025 1st round pick (lottery protection)

trade machine approved

You've easily been suggesting the most reasonable/realistic trade proposals on this board.

Chalm Down · Post #465 » by **Chalm Down** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:04 am

Daffy wrote:If we land Westbrook. Who becomes the face. Who gets the bulk of the shots? I mean Westbrook is the better player.

Dunno, would actually say it's Butler, unless last year was some sort of anomaly for Russ

gom · Post #466 » by **gom** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:17 am

Cmon_Son-_- wrote:
JustiseForMiami wrote:To Miami: Russell Westbrook, Patrick Patterson, John Henson

To Oklahoma City: Goran Dragic, JR Smith, Justise Winslow, James Johnson, unprotect 2023 1st

To Cleveland: Dion Waiters, Andre Roberson, Derrick Jones Jr, Miami 2025 1st round pick (lottery protection)

trade machine approved

You've easily been suggesting the most reasonable/realistic trade proposals on this board.

Massive overpay.

Daffy · Post #467 » by **Daffy** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:22 am

Chalm Down wrote:
Daffy wrote:If we land Westbrook. Who becomes the face. Who gets the bulk of the shots? I mean Westbrook is the better player.

Dunno, would actually say it's Butler, unless last year was some sort of anomaly for Russ

I know it's been 3 first round exits, but he did lead OKC to the playoffs in the west with no KD or PG13

Cmon_Son-_- · Post #468 » by **Cmon_Son-_-** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:30 am

gom wrote:
Cmon_Son-_- wrote:
JustiseForMiami wrote:To Miami: Russell Westbrook, Patrick Patterson, John Henson

To Oklahoma City: Goran Dragic, JR Smith, Justise Winslow, James Johnson, unprotect 2023 1st

To Cleveland: Dion Waiters, Andre Roberson, Derrick Jones Jr, Miami 2025 1st round pick (lottery protection)

trade machine approved

You've easily been suggesting the most reasonable/realistic trade proposals on this board.

Massive overpay.

Massive? I disagree only thing i'd change probably is that 2025 pick

Spacely · Post #469 » by **Spacely** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:31 am

Cmon_Son-_- wrote:
gom wrote:
Cmon_Son-_- wrote:You've easily been suggesting the most reasonable/realistic trade proposals on this board.

Massive overpay.

Massive? I disagree only thing i'd change probably is that 2025 pick

Winslow and DJJ? Nah

Post #470 » by **Wiltside** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:31 am

If Olynyk or JJ go as part of the 'inevitable' trade, would like us to take a cheap flyer on Trey Lyles as a backup 4 and is now an Unrestricted Free Agent.

We're gonna need all the floor spacers we can get our hands on. Lyles had a down year in DEN last szn, but he can shoot it. He's a Kentucky guy, you just know Pat wants to catch 'em all (Pat Ketchum).

The other option for mine would be Dragan Bender, who I've called for previously. Would be worth a look as a backup 4/5, still so young. We have had success with former Suns that haven't panned out...lets try again.

On the guard/wing front, Justin Holiday and Kyle Korver hold some degree of interest for me, on the cheap.

Cmon_Son-_- · Post #471 » by **Cmon_Son-_-** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:40 am

Spacely wrote:
Cmon_Son-_- wrote:
gom wrote:
Massive overpay.

Massive? I disagree only thing i'd change probably is that 2025 pick

Winslow and DJJ? Nah

Legit wouldn't lose sleep at throwing DJJ in any trade.

gom · Post #472 » by **gom** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:44 am

Andre Iguodala (MEM) for Goran Dragic would be a good move. We get some space under the apron so we can sign veteran minimums. Dragic could be useful for Memphis who are bringing Morant up to speed. Both deals are expirings.

Chalm Down · Post #473 » by **Chalm Down** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:44 am

Daffy wrote:
Chalm Down wrote:
Daffy wrote:If we land Westbrook. Who becomes the face. Who gets the bulk of the shots? I mean Westbrook is the better player.

Dunno, would actually say it's Butler, unless last year was some sort of anomaly for Russ

I know it's been 3 first round exits, but he did lead OKC to the playoffs in the west with no KD or PG13

That was a looong time ago. And westbrook's game doesn't exactly portend to aging well

Heatle · Post #474 » by **Heatle** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:51 am

Reminder: Westbrook shot 38% from the field in his last 3 first round exits.

puppa bear · Post #475 » by **puppa bear** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:12 am

gom wrote:Andre Iguodala (MEM) for Goran Dragic would be a good move. We get some space under the apron so we can sign veteran minimums. Dragic could be useful for Memphis who are bringing Morant up to speed. Both deals are expirings.

Low key might be an idea that helps with the OKC deal - saving those few $ and shifting from a PG to a SF might be enough to make OKC happy to take the deal without a 3rd. Iggy May be willing to agree to a buy-out ahead of time that gets them below the tax line:

To Grizz - Dragic
To Thunder - Winslow, Waiters, Iguodala
To Heat - Westbrook, Patterson

It’s dollar for dollar for us, $2m down for Thunder (so any buy-out for Iggy will get them under the tax line), and Grizz get a player to mentor Ja. Grizz may be looking for an asset to do this swap though ...

Daffy · Post #476 » by **Daffy** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:15 am

Heatle wrote:Reminder: Westbrook shot 38% from the field in his last 3 first round exits.

I suggest you take a look at Dame's numbers and also their career playoff FG% number too.

zgope1 · Post #477 » by **zgope1** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:22 am

OKC would thrive off any pressure heat front office might feel to get Russ. I want to do my bit as a fan to say, no pressure. Don’t overspend. I like where this team is going and have faith you’ll find a better option to put next to Jimmy in the future.

MartyCONLONNN · Post #478 » by **MartyCONLONNN** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:49 am

weird. why would he unlike it? maybe we actually pulled out of talks after the Herro signing. at least temporarily

Post #479 » by **Wiltside** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:55 am

MartyCONLONNN wrote:weird. why would he unlike it? maybe we actually pulled out of talks after the Herro signing. at least temporarily

Russ ain’t one for media attention really. I can imagine he regretted the **** and articles it might have created.

Still feel this is getting done real soon. I’m scared of the cost...see how it shakes out.

Daffy · Post #480 » by **Daffy** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:05 am

MartyCONLONNN wrote:weird. why would he unlike it? maybe we actually pulled out of talks after the Herro signing. at least temporarily

Maybe out of respect for the fans on OKC since he still a member of the organization for now.