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Re: Game 5 Solutions - Be Positive 

Post#481 » by dr3am » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:58 pm

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WD wrote:^Playing Man defense would make a HUGE difference, but I can already hear the argument from this coach. I'd give Mario 2 possessions, if he starts, if he's not effective on either end, i'd hook his azz...

BTW- i just don't like how we start games, we run basically the same sets, I call the "look for LBJ right and look for LBJ left"

IMO Mario shouldn't start at all...3 ppg & 3 turnovers? He's practically gave us nothing this whole series. He doesn't deserve to start anymore. He needs to be hooked from the starting lineup in Game 5

I don't like how we started games in this series either because the Spurs are a great offensive team...As far as running the same sets yea we do which is a main reason why the Spurs have defended us so well...Spo has 2 days to try and come up with something new

Benching Mario would take GUTS from this coach...if he did that, he'd make a real statement..No time for sentimental playing time...

BTW- I agree with your line up, except I'mm a little nervous about ODEN, but WTH...do it...There is no tomorrow

Even though Spo rarely touches his starting lineup outside of the 4 & 5 positions it wouldn't shock me at all if he benched Mario...He's been atrocious man. Game 5 was his last chance and he blew it

Like the old saying goes in the NBA when your'e down 3-1 or 3-0 we're playing with "nothing to lose" might as well dust off Oden
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Re: Game 5 Solutions - Be Positive 

Post#482 » by NBA82 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:58 pm

Bench Chalmers. Start Allen. Go to zone defense. Pray the Spurs go cold offensively.
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Re: Game 5 Solutions - Be Positive 

Post#483 » by WD » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:00 pm

^ Please try a ZONE
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Re: Game 5 Solutions - Be Positive 

Post#484 » by contract » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:02 pm

WD wrote:Mods, do your thing if you want to merge, delete or what ever

I keep hearing people outlining the PROBLEMS, don't hear what you would do knowing that

1. Wade is struggling
2. Mario is in a slump
3. LBJ has a bad ankle

Give some solutions, we all know or have read about the problems as "each of you see it"

What if WADE can't give us much more RIGHT NOW, what would you do about Mario, how would you handle a bad ankle? How could you utilize players who may can help but haven't been in the lineup consistent enough.

Act like a coach and state some solutions......REALISTICALLY for GAME 5, not next year, GAME 5

After the past 2 games this team has checked out. IMO the best way to get them to check back in is good old fashioned Detroit Pistons Bad Boys/NY Knicks Pat Riley thug ball. Make the Spurs pay for every drive and every point in the paint. Hard fouls all around. Knock 'em down. Hard! Make Tony Parker taste his own blood. Sharpen the elbows and deal with the Spurs offensive "efficiency" through brute force. No doubt the Spurs want that trophy badly ... lets see how badly.
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Re: Game 5 Solutions - Be Positive 

Post#485 » by WD » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:04 pm

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WD wrote:Mods, do your thing if you want to merge, delete or what ever

I keep hearing people outlining the PROBLEMS, don't hear what you would do knowing that

1. Wade is struggling
2. Mario is in a slump
3. LBJ has a bad ankle

Give some solutions, we all know or have read about the problems as "each of you see it"

What if WADE can't give us much more RIGHT NOW, what would you do about Mario, how would you handle a bad ankle? How could you utilize players who may can help but haven't been in the lineup consistent enough.

Act like a coach and state some solutions......REALISTICALLY for GAME 5, not next year, GAME 5

After the past 2 games this team has checked out. IMO the best way to get them to check back in is good old fashioned Detroit Pistons Bad Boys/NY Knicks Pat Riley thug ball. Make the Spurs pay for every drive and every point in the paint. Hard fouls all around. Knock 'em down. Hard! Make Tony Parker taste his own blood. Sharpen the elbows and deal with the Spurs offensive "efficiency" through brute force. No doubt the Spurs want that trophy badly ... lets see how badly.

^Don't have the personality or the personnel.....START AT THE TOP - coach is soft as tissue

BTW-I've been sick and tired of the smiling and hand shaking for a few months now.
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Re: Game 5 Solutions - Be Positive 

Post#486 » by Heat_team02 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:07 pm

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Re: Game 5 Solutions - Be Positive 

Post#487 » by contract » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:08 pm

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WD wrote:Mods, do your thing if you want to merge, delete or what ever

I keep hearing people outlining the PROBLEMS, don't hear what you would do knowing that

1. Wade is struggling
2. Mario is in a slump
3. LBJ has a bad ankle

Give some solutions, we all know or have read about the problems as "each of you see it"

What if WADE can't give us much more RIGHT NOW, what would you do about Mario, how would you handle a bad ankle? How could you utilize players who may can help but haven't been in the lineup consistent enough.

Act like a coach and state some solutions......REALISTICALLY for GAME 5, not next year, GAME 5

After the past 2 games this team has checked out. IMO the best way to get them to check back in is good old fashioned Detroit Pistons Bad Boys/NY Knicks Pat Riley thug ball. Make the Spurs pay for every drive and every point in the paint. Hard fouls all around. Knock 'em down. Hard! Make Tony Parker taste his own blood. Sharpen the elbows and deal with the Spurs offensive "efficiency" through brute force. No doubt the Spurs want that trophy badly ... lets see how badly.

^Don't have the personality or the personnel.....START AT THE TOP - coach is soft as tissue

BTW-I've been sick and tired of the smiling and hand shaking for a few months now.

I don't care about our "personality". Those would be my marching orders. If it's not their game ... they can learn a new game on the fly. It's time to man up and make the Spurs earn it. I'm tired of watching our guy lay down and concede defeat.
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Re: Game 5 Solutions - Be Positive 

Post#488 » by WD » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:10 pm

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contract wrote:After the past 2 games this team has checked out. IMO the best way to get them to check back in is good old fashioned Detroit Pistons Bad Boys/NY Knicks Pat Riley thug ball. Make the Spurs pay for every drive and every point in the paint. Hard fouls all around. Knock 'em down. Hard! Make Tony Parker taste his own blood. Sharpen the elbows and deal with the Spurs offensive "efficiency" through brute force. No doubt the Spurs want that trophy badly ... lets see how badly.

^Don't have the personality or the personnel.....START AT THE TOP - coach is soft as tissue

BTW-I've been sick and tired of the smiling and hand shaking for a few months now.

I don't care about our "personality". Those would be my marching orders. If it's not their game ... they can learn a new game on the fly. It's time to man up and make the Spurs earn it. I'm tired of watching our guy lay down and concede defeat.

So who's the FIRST GUY you'd implore to start this? - None of our starters have "kick your azz" personalities...you know this coach doesn't, WHO.....?
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Re: Game 5 Solutions - Be Positive 

Post#489 » by contract » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:19 pm

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WD wrote:^Don't have the personality or the personnel.....START AT THE TOP - coach is soft as tissue

BTW-I've been sick and tired of the smiling and hand shaking for a few months now.

I don't care about our "personality". Those would be my marching orders. If it's not their game ... they can learn a new game on the fly. It's time to man up and make the Spurs earn it. I'm tired of watching our guy lay down and concede defeat.

So who's the FIRST GUY you'd implore to start this? - None of our starters have "kick your azz" personalities...you know this coach doesn't, WHO.....?

Wade had plenty of nasty in him and he's a team leader.
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Re: Game 5 Solutions - Be Positive 

Post#490 » by HeatNation88 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:19 pm

WD wrote:
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WD wrote:^Don't have the personality or the personnel.....START AT THE TOP - coach is soft as tissue

BTW-I've been sick and tired of the smiling and hand shaking for a few months now.

I don't care about our "personality". Those would be my marching orders. If it's not their game ... they can learn a new game on the fly. It's time to man up and make the Spurs earn it. I'm tired of watching our guy lay down and concede defeat.

So who's the FIRST GUY you'd implore to start this? - None of our starters have "kick your azz" personalities...you know this coach doesn't, WHO.....?


Oden? Haslem? Rio?
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Re: Game 5 Solutions - Be Positive 

Post#491 » by Heat_team02 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:26 pm

My starting lineup;

C Justin Hamilton- I know if given the chance he will battle for boards & dive on the ground.
F Chris Bosh
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Re: Game 5 Solutions - Be Positive 

Post#492 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:46 pm

It's potentially our last game of the season. Maybe it's time to play Greg Oden.

Pg - Cole
SG - Allen
SF - LeBron
PF - Bosh
C - Oden

surround LBJ with shooters while still having a big body down low.
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Re: Game 5 Solutions - Be Positive 

Post#493 » by WD » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:48 pm

StrengthNHonor wrote:It's potentially our last game of the season. Maybe it's time to play Greg Oden.

Pg - Cole
SG - Allen
SF - LeBron
PF - Bosh
C - Oden

surround LBJ with shooters while still having a big body down low.

curious, the backups are?
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Re: Game 5 Solutions - Be Positive 

Post#494 » by contract » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:51 pm

StrengthNHonor wrote:It's potentially our last game of the season. Maybe it's time to play Greg Oden.

Pg - Cole
SG - Allen
SF - LeBron
PF - Bosh
C - Oden

surround LBJ with shooters while still having a big body down low.

Oden can't play. He's been away from the game too long. Might as well put a traffic cone out there.
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Re: Change line up and strategy to reinvigorate team 

Post#495 » by NBA82 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:52 pm

KnockDownTheJ wrote:What's hilarious about what is happening to the Heat defense is we know and the Spurs know that the over-aggressive style defense is completely being exploited and yet it seems like only the Heat don't know this. We are playing right into their hands...I think it was Diaw who said in the post game that they are being forced to make those extra passes because of the aggressive defense. It is not working, we are not turning them over and they are getting easy basket after easy basket.

So what can realistically be done? Stop trapping, stop paying so much attention to dribble drives by Diaw and postups by Diaw and start playing them straight up.

I would not start Chalmers and I would tell Wade that if he doesn't hustle on defense he is done. Realistically he should not even be playing starters minutes unless he looks healthy and can hustle because he is killing the team. I would also look at playing a center next to Bosh or try Haslem at times but overall I really believe that this team can hold their own on defense if they simply play the Spurs man to man and stop trapping/doubling/switching everything.

Bottom line is there have to be big adjustments because the team isn't simply playing poorly, they have also been exposed tactically.


This, a million times this. It doesn't matter what else we do, if we stick to this style of D, we're going to lose. They run us ragged on D and end up with a wide open layup or 3 anyway. Then we're too exhausted to compete offensively.

It's amazing to me that Spo could see what they did to us last year, come into this series with the same plan, and watch us get annihilated defensively in 4 straight games without making any significant changes. Terrible.
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Re: Game 5 Solutions - Be Positive 

Post#496 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:07 pm

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StrengthNHonor wrote:It's potentially our last game of the season. Maybe it's time to play Greg Oden.

Pg - Cole
SG - Allen
SF - LeBron
PF - Bosh
C - Oden

surround LBJ with shooters while still having a big body down low.

Oden can't play. He's been away from the game too long. Might as well put a traffic cone out there.


I give him a shot to do something special anyway. ODEN IS HUNGRY. He will patrol the paint like a Ravenous Lion and the Spurs will have to think twice about their current strategy.

ODEN ALTERS SHOTS. We know this. I want him in there simply for his interior defense. It will change how the Spurs play.

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Re: Game 5 Solutions - Be Positive 

Post#497 » by Heat_team02 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:12 pm

I'm tellin you guys Justin Hamilton. He reminds me of a Greg Foster that can shoot. When he played that Indy road game in the regular season, he made the crowd boo drawing charges.
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Re: Game 5 Solutions - Be Positive 

Post#498 » by Flash4thewin » Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:15 pm

I dont know how much Oden has left on the tank and throwing him into the fire just seems crazy unless we change our defense. No more trapping like idiots when thats exactly what the Spurs want us to do. I would try to play cole more and surround Lebron with shooters so he can post up.

Also Beasley has to play. No questions we need to score because if we cant defend at least go out fighting and you need Beasley and his talents on the court. Pick and rolls with Lebron and Bosh would help also.
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Re: Change line up and strategy to reinvigorate team 

Post#499 » by Flash4thewin » Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:19 pm

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Ratchet_Rio wrote:Give me a break. Spo will start Haslem on Sunday night and that will be the biggest change in line up and strategy you can expect. Beasley will still be in a sportscoat, and Chalmers will still be starting. And then after they lose I'll be right here going in on this f*ckin dummy for his stubborness throughout this season. They really thought they would trot out the same team as last year, minus a significant piece, and win. Unbelievable.

Sadly, this is the most probable outcome.

I still can't believe he made a line up change in the second half of Game 4 yet included Chalmers into the equation. That was laughable. Like did you really view Rashard Lewis as a bigger problem? Start Wade at PG and Ray Allen at SG. I'm not a Beasley fanboy, but if Allen is inserted into the starting line up then an offensive option is needed to replace him off the bench, so activate Beasley.


If anyone caught the end of the game you saw the conversation Beasley and Lebron were having. It looked like Lebron saying i need help man i need help and Beasley raising his with the i know but i was inactive look on his face. I have a feeling Beasley will be seeing some playing time.
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Re: Game 5 Solutions - Be Positive 

Post#500 » by heatlespeatles » Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:26 pm

Heat_team02 wrote:I'm tellin you guys Justin Hamilton. He reminds me of a Greg Foster that can shoot. When he played that Indy road game in the regular season, he made the crowd boo drawing charges.

he cant defend worth a lick, but if he can hit open 3s he would be perfect. But again he cant defend and thats our issue

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