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[DayofMourning]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/260357/Bill-Simmons-Kyrie-Irving-To-Miami-In-Three-Way-Trade-Was-Brief-Draft-Night-Rumor


Interesting. Wonder how that would work here with Kyrie heading to us

Kyrie is like a maxed out version of Dragic in my eyes....with a sprinkling of psycho, a touch of the injury bug, and completely lacking in the oh so important team first intangible.

Yea', can't lie, I'd take Myrie if given, but we've got the assets dammit-- the beard or nada

Y should we help BK?

Which team would emerge the victor in that scenario? I can't imagine the look of our team now if that had gone through.

I really am not impressed with the Nets at all. KD was an all time great. Now he's got no legs Lt. Dan! Kyrie would be amazing to have as that go to guy we have to have when we go into a lull. You add him to this team and that's pretty dynamic. Give up half the team for him and not so much.

[wadenation305]

If we could somehow snag Ibaka we'd be in a damn good spot

Nunn, Dragic, Vincent
Butler, Herro
Robinson, Iggy
Bam, Jae, KZ, Olynik
Ibaka, Precious, SIlva, UD

That's a lot of defense and a lot of three point shooters

If Van fleet leaves the Raptors is the only way I see we might be able to get Ibaka.

Serge would make so much sense here. He's that last bit of hope I have of winning this offseason. You add him and PA to our post presence and we completely reverse other teams chitting on us down low.

Ibaka makes almost too much sense for us rn. Way more of a Pat Riley/Heat culture guy than Gallo could ever hope to be. The more I look at that line up the more I fall in love. It doesn't matter if you're playing against the starters or the bench, you are going to get suffocated by relentless defense and 3 point threats while giving us size on the court to match up against teams with good bigs. If we had at least one decent big not named Bam in the play off we might have pulled it off regardless of the injuries.

[wadenation305]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/260357/Bill-Simmons-Kyrie-Irving-To-Miami-In-Three-Way-Trade-Was-Brief-Draft-Night-Rumor


Interesting. Wonder how that would work here with Kyrie heading to us

Thank God if true that didn't happen. Kyrie is the worst type of cancer possible. Don't get me wrong amazing handles and can score with the best of them, but his negatives cancel out and even overtake his positive effects, besides the fact that you can almost pencil him in to only play half a season almost every season, dude makes greg odens knees seem like they are made out of vibranium.

[DayofMourning]

Ibaka makes almost too much sense for us rn. Way more of a Pat Riley/Heat culture guy than Gallo could ever hope to be. The more I look at that line up the more I fall in love. It doesn't matter if you're playing against the starters or the bench, you are going to get suffocated by relentless defense and 3 point threats while giving us size on the court to match up against teams with good bigs. If we had at least one decent big not named Bam in the play off we might have pulled it off regardless of the injuries.

At this point, it'd have to be a sign and trade, right? Jae and Goran are going to take our cap space.

[Bishop45]

Kyrie is like a maxed out version of Dragic in my eyes....with a sprinkling of psycho, a touch of the injury bug, and completely lacking in the oh so important team first intangible.

Yea', can't lie, I'd take Myrie if given, but we've got the assets dammit-- the beard or nada

Y should we help BK?

Which team would emerge the victor in that scenario? I can't imagine the look of our team now if that had gone through.

I really am not impressed with the Nets at all. KD was an all time great. Now he's got no legs Lt. Dan! Kyrie would be amazing to have as that go to guy we have to have when we go into a lull. You add him to this team and that's pretty dynamic. Give up half the team for him and not so much.

Lt.Dan lmao

Yea', KD's health is a massive question mark, I hope lil' breh comes out looking like himself and is able to have a decent remainder to his career. Klay too smh

[DayofMourning]

Lt.Dan lmao

Yea', KD's health is a massive question mark, I hope lil' breh comes out looking like himself and is able to have a decent remainder to his career. Klay too smh

Injuries are tough. So pivotal to success. Prime example, 2020 NBA Finals. Heck, plenty of Finals recently.

Brooklyn feels like a place where past their prime players go to rest. I'm down on KD. Irving is a stud offensively, but he's too quirky a character for me. All the stuff that it takes to be a winning team haven't been put together by them yet. It's not hoops for them yet. It's hoopla.

[Jinsaryko]

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[DayofMourning]

Looks like Barry has the better scoop.

[AirP.]

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So... Kelly waited till after the draft to make it harder for Miami to trade? I'm sure there were more possible trade options available with Olynyk before Miami picked Precious(since the other team(s) may have wanted someone else at 20) or could Olynyk have thought that if Miami drafted a non-big, he'd have some leverage and could opt out and sign for more years(less per year but more long term stability).

[IggieCC]

Should be 12.2 + 1mil incentive

[RonaldSeikaly]

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So... Kelly waited till after the draft to make it harder for Miami to trade? I'm sure there were more possible trade options available with Olynyk before Miami picked Precious(since the other team(s) may have wanted someone else at 20) or could Olynyk have thought that if Miami drafted a non-big, he'd have some leverage and could opt out and sign for more years(less per year but more long term stability).

It was announced before the draft, and S&Ts can’t be official until free agency starts so he may already be traded.


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[Bishop45]

Rooks only have a month to get prepared to play in the NBA, might be a bad look for some of the rooks that have to play large mins next szn. Towns will be surveying his options by ASG if he isn't now

[BenoUdrihFTL]

Been pouring over pre-draft scouting reports of Precious and I like what I see. The consensus seems to be that he's raw offensively but a very versatile/mobile defender and arguably the most impressive physical specimen in the draft. This report is pretty in depth:

https://www.nbadraftjunkies.com/precious-achiuwa

Some stuff that stuck out to me:

I’m high on him as a prospect because of his versatility and I see him as multi dimensional weapon that can be difference maker if he goes to the right team. He’ll need a that places a strong emphasis on player development and a creative coaching staff that will used him to exploit mismatches..

I feel his real value in the NBA will be as a switchy versatile defender than can defend multiple positions.

Achiuwa thrives and is at his best when he’s running the floor making plays in the open court. He consistently sprints the floor with aggression and projects to be an elite rim runner and transition scorer on the next level...

What he lacks in aesthetics and feel for the game he more than makes up for it with energy and effort. At the minimum I believe he can effective as blue collar high energy offensive rebounder that creates second chance points and extra possessions for team.

Achiuwa's ability to put the ball on the floor and attack rim is just one of the reasons why I’m higher on him than most.

He has the ball handling and quickness to get to the rim off dribble penetration. I feel has the skill set to create problems by attacking the rim on straight line drives.... I believe if used properly, he could exploit mismatches with his speed especially if he’s getting the opportunity to play minutes as a small ball 5....

That open-floor athleticism... how many times last season did we force a turnover only to get nothing out of it in transition. So frustrating

On offense, his unpolished, high-motor garbage man role with the quickness/handles for explosive straight-line drives sounds like a Montrezl Harrell comp. Defensively... I feel like I'm reading a Bam scouting report

If Achiuwa can merely become a poor man's Harrell on O and a poor man's Bam on D... that's a pretty nice role player for our squad

[carnageta]

Herro, Nunn, Precious, FRP, KO for KAT + filler at the deadline?

Would be similar to LA’s haul for AD. KAT is already a top 3-4 big man in the league (behind AD and Jokic but at the same levee as Embiid) and would look even better in Miami, where Bam can facilitate and guard the opposing teams best big.

[Cmon_Son-_-]

Herro, Nunn, Precious, FRP, KO for KAT + filler at the deadline?

Would be similar to LA’s haul for AD. KAT is already a top 3-4 big man in the league (behind AD and Jokic but at the same levee as Embiid) and would look even better in Miami, where Bam can facilitate and guard the opposing teams best big.

When the Giannis and Beal scenarios for us started dwindling I was looking at future FA classes to see when would be the next prize class if we strike out in 21. KAT in 2024 stuck out too me. I'd be down for that trade because 2024 too far away lol

But KAT Probably wont be made available to trade until his last year on his contract when he most likely tells Minnesota he's not sticking around.

[DayofMourning]

Been pouring over pre-draft scouting reports of Precious and I like what I see. The consensus seems to be that he's raw offensively but a very versatile/mobile defender and arguably the most impressive physical specimen in the draft. This report is pretty in depth:

https://www.nbadraftjunkies.com/precious-achiuwa

Some stuff that stuck out to me:

I’m high on him as a prospect because of his versatility and I see him as multi dimensional weapon that can be difference maker if he goes to the right team. He’ll need a that places a strong emphasis on player development and a creative coaching staff that will used him to exploit mismatches..

I feel his real value in the NBA will be as a switchy versatile defender than can defend multiple positions.

Achiuwa thrives and is at his best when he’s running the floor making plays in the open court. He consistently sprints the floor with aggression and projects to be an elite rim runner and transition scorer on the next level...

What he lacks in aesthetics and feel for the game he more than makes up for it with her energy and effort. At the minimum I believe he can effective as blue collar high energy offensive rebounder that creates second chance points and extra possessions for team.

Achiuwa's ability to put the ball on the floor and attack rim is just one of the reasons why I’m higher on him than most.

He has the ball handling and quickness to get to the rim off dribble penetration. I feel has the skill set to create problems by attacking the rim on straight line drives.... I believe if used properly, he could exploit mismatches with his speed especially if he’s getting the opportunity to play minutes as a small ball 5....

That open-floor athleticism... how many times last season did we force a turnover only to get nothing out of it in transition. So frustrating

On offense, his unpolished, high-motor garbage man role with the quickness/handles for explosive straight-line drives sounds like a Montrezl Harrell comp. Defensively... I feel like I'm reading a Bam scouting report

If Achiuwa can merely become a poor man's Harrell on O and a poor man's Bam on D... that's a pretty nice role player for our squad

Based on what I've reviewed for the past two hours (such a bum after draft night, lol) he's not likely to be a poor man's anything. I think we'll realize real fast what kind of defensive dynamic duo we have in Bam and Achiuwa.

The point you brought up about transition is the real key here. Many who're looking at this pickup might not realize the value he's about to bring. Though labeled a big, he's been raised as a wing in his basketball career thus far. He only played as a big once Wiseman left and he had to. The role fit him well, but it doesn't exactly speak to his open floor ability and skill set in transition. Now Bam has help on the boards and on defense. One of those two will be able to grab the ball and push it up the floor as fast as need be. Our transition game should be impacted greatly. No longer will our guards have to be responsible for rebounding the ball. They can now get down the floor for easier buckets. That will help our offense a lot.

[wadenation305]

Ibaka makes almost too much sense for us rn. Way more of a Pat Riley/Heat culture guy than Gallo could ever hope to be. The more I look at that line up the more I fall in love. It doesn't matter if you're playing against the starters or the bench, you are going to get suffocated by relentless defense and 3 point threats while giving us size on the court to match up against teams with good bigs. If we had at least one decent big not named Bam in the play off we might have pulled it off regardless of the injuries.

At this point, it'd have to be a sign and trade, right? Jae and Goran are going to take our cap space.

At this point I don't know how the cap gymnastics would work, We'd definitely would need to move Kelly in all cases to do it, but if it can be done that's a move you make and don't look back as long as you're not giving up the youngins

[Kobewade11]

Herro, Nunn, Precious, FRP, KO for KAT + filler at the deadline?

No.

[JLop]

Herro, Nunn, Precious, FRP, KO for KAT + filler at the deadline?

Would be similar to LA’s haul for AD. KAT is already a top 3-4 big man in the league (behind AD and Jokic but at the same levee as Embiid) and would look even better in Miami, where Bam can facilitate and guard the opposing teams best big.

When the Giannis and Beal scenarios for us started dwindling I was looking at future FA classes to see when would be the next prize class if we strike out in 21. KAT in 2024 stuck out too me. I'd be down for that trade because 2024 too far away lol

But KAT Probably wont be made available to trade until his last year on his contract when he most likely tells Minnesota he's not sticking around.

I heard that Karl-Anthony Towns and Jimmy Butler don't get along that well, but if they can solve their problems, Karl-Anthony is the perfect player to pair with Giannis Antetokounmpo. If Antetokounmpo joins the Heat in free agency, we could trade Adebayo for Towns. While Karl-Anthony Towns is unavailable, I wonder how much a younger Adebayo, better center with a 5-year contract can move the needle for Minnesota.

Karl-Anthony Towns
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Jimmy Butler
Tyler Herro
De'Aaron Fox? / Duncan Robinson

[Cmon_Son-_-]

Herro, Nunn, Precious, FRP, KO for KAT + filler at the deadline?

Would be similar to LA’s haul for AD. KAT is already a top 3-4 big man in the league (behind AD and Jokic but at the same levee as Embiid) and would look even better in Miami, where Bam can facilitate and guard the opposing teams best big.

When the Giannis and Beal scenarios for us started dwindling I was looking at future FA classes to see when would be the next prize class if we strike out in 21. KAT in 2024 stuck out too me. I'd be down for that trade because 2024 too far away lol

But KAT Probably wont be made available to trade until his last year on his contract when he most likely tells Minnesota he's not sticking around.

I heard that Karl-Anthony Towns and Jimmy Butler don't get along that well, but if they can solve their problems, Karl-Anthony is the perfect player to pair with Giannis Antetokounmpo. If Antetokounmpo joins the Heat in free agency, we could trade Adebayo for Towns. While Karl-Anthony Towns is unavailable, I wonder how much a younger Adebayo, better center with a 5-year contract can move the needle for Minnesota.

Karl-Anthony Towns
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Jimmy Butler
Tyler Herro
De'Aaron Fox? / Duncan Robinson

I completely forgot about that whole Jimmy Timberwolves thing