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Post#501 » by harlem_ball » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:19 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:I’m doing so more Myles Turner digging. If you want big next to Bam you all need to be focusing on having him instead of starting Dedmon.

Averaging 13-8 on 53% from the field. 40% from 3 on 5 attempts is great! He’s in a similar role on Indy as he would here. He’s averaging 3 blocks a game and actually has a goal of being DPOY (hell never win it).

So just this year alone you get a player who is shooting better than Duncan and is worlds better defensively. Bam can roam more and we have more shooting next to him and Jimmy. I think it would make this team a lot better on both sides because let’s face it, Duncan is hurting us on both right now.

Barnes was my top target hit the more I look into it I’m starting to lean to Turner.


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Post#502 » by harlem_ball » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:24 am

Moving my "lets go bigger" nonsense from the game threads to here for archiving...

Tucker not reliable? He's absolutely killing it in his role. I can't listen to this nonsense lol

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He's at 45% 3pt FGs jeezus...

Move Tucker to the 3 and play Dedman to free up Bam and the undersized problems are solved. Or move tucker to the bench and start Herro until DRob gets his rhythm back if you want 3 three point gunners on the starting lineup for spacing.

Dedmon
Bam
Tucker
Butler
Lowry

or

Dedmon
Bam
Butler
Herro
Lowry


The issue is as simple as DRob missing shots and Spo playing too many undersized lineups. The team is using all of their stamina and it is leading to iffy effort and more turnovers. Using more energy will not fix this and will cause more injuries. The Heat feature a power forward at center. Also, the defensive system is flawed and needs max effort to cover the 3 ball. Spo sucks for not adjusting to this. A losing streak is the only answer but this team is too talented and has too much pride.

Heat will do fine against most teams but will struggle against bigger teams until Spo gets his head out of his arse.

SPORON!

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Bam's stats are good but he's not an anchor of a defense. He is averaging 0.4 blocks per game. His career worst. This is why I would use Dedmon at the 5. Dedmon can hit the occasional 3 and pull the opposing Center out of Bam's way as well as give you better defense against bigs. A Turner-lite, perhaps.

Bam could slide to the 4, free to destroy and Herro, Butler and Lowry would be free to gamble on D a little more since the paint would be protected. Herro doesn't mind a clogged paint to score since he's a shooter.
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Post#503 » by eddieheatfan » Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:14 pm

harlem_ball wrote:Moving my "lets go bigger" nonsense from the game threads to here for archiving...

Tucker not reliable? He's absolutely killing it in his role. I can't listen to this nonsense lol

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He's at 45% 3pt FGs jeezus...

Move Tucker to the 3 and play Dedman to free up Bam and the undersized problems are solved. Or move tucker to the bench and start Herro until DRob gets his rhythm back if you want 3 three point gunners on the starting lineup for spacing.

Dedmon
Bam
Tucker
Butler
Lowry

or

Dedmon
Bam
Butler
Herro
Lowry


The issue is as simple as DRob missing shots and Spo playing too many undersized lineups. The team is using all of their stamina and it is leading to iffy effort and more turnovers. Using more energy will not fix this and will cause more injuries. The Heat feature a power forward at center. Also, the defensive system is flawed and needs max effort to cover the 3 ball. Spo sucks for not adjusting to this. A losing streak is the only answer but this team is too talented and has too much pride.

Heat will do fine against most teams but will struggle against bigger teams until Spo gets his head out of his arse.

SPORON!

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Bam's stats are good but he's not an anchor of a defense. He is averaging 0.4 blocks per game. His career worst. This is why I would use Dedmon at the 5. Dedmon can hit the occasional 3 and pull the opposing Center out of Bam's way as well as give you better defense against bigs. A Turner-lite, perhaps.

Bam could slide to the 4, free to destroy and Herro, Butler and Lowry would be free to gamble on D a little more since the paint would be protected. Herro doesn't mind a clogged paint to score since he's a shooter.
yeah bam is more of a stretch 4 than of a center. he has long ways to go if he trying to emulate bosh
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Post#504 » by harlem_ball » Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:05 pm

eddieheatfan wrote:yeah bam is more of a stretch 4 than of a center. he has long ways to go if he trying to emulate bosh


He's not a stretch anything since he can't hit 3s. He's a traditional power forward like Kevin Garnett without the blocks. Maybe if Bam lives up to his potential he could be a Kevin Garnett.
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Post#505 » by eddieheatfan » Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:05 pm

harlem_ball wrote:
eddieheatfan wrote:yeah bam is more of a stretch 4 than of a center. he has long ways to go if he trying to emulate bosh


He's not a stretch anything since he can't hit 3s. He's a traditional power forward like Kevin Garnett.
welp in his mind he is :lol:

also kevin garnett was never as soft as bam appears to be, so he still ways behind in emulating garnet as well
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Post#506 » by harlem_ball » Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:09 pm

eddieheatfan wrote:
harlem_ball wrote:
eddieheatfan wrote:yeah bam is more of a stretch 4 than of a center. he has long ways to go if he trying to emulate bosh


He's not a stretch anything since he can't hit 3s. He's a traditional power forward like Kevin Garnett.
welp in his mind he is :lol:

also kevin garnett was never as soft as bam appears to be, so he still ways behind in emulating garnet as well


sad but true. Bam is very finesse but then he will beast all of a sudden and have a burst of aggression. it's odd. does he hold back? very strange.
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Post#507 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:12 pm

Assuming it took Duncan and a 1st to get Turner, I’m figuring we start Herro in that situation or Dipo if we want to keep Herro killing teams off the bench. Here’s how the starters would match up against the other contending starters:

Lowry-Harris
Jimmy-Harden
Herro-idk
Bam-KD
Turner-Griffin

Lowry-Holiday
Herro-Allen
Jimmy-Middleton
Bam-Giannis
Turner-Lopez

Lowry-Maxey
Herro-Curry
Jimmy-Grant (rumored)
Bam-Tobias
Turner-Embiid

Lowry-Lavine
Herro-Ball
Jimmy-Derozan
Bam-???
Turner-Vucevic

Lowry-Young
Herro-Bogdanovic
Jimmy-Hunter
Bam-Collins
Turner-Capela

Not many mismatch’s on there if at all. I’m liking the idea more and more
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Post#508 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:17 pm

Then when we make the finals:

Lowry-Curry
Jimmy-Klay
Herro-Wiggins
Bam-Green
Turner-Looney

Lowry-Paul
Jimmy-Booker
Herro-Mikal
Bam-Jae
Turner-Ayton

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Turner-Gobert
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Post#509 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:18 pm

Bench looking something like the following in these situations:

Wall?-Dragic?-Augustine?
Dipo
Morris or Struss or Martin
Tucker
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Post#510 » by AirP. » Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:08 pm

FYI... League Pass is %50 off right now, so 99.99 for the full year(you can go back and rewatch games). Not bad until you find out about all the blackouts(but I think you can watch those games when archived).
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Post#511 » by eddieheatfan » Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:47 pm

AirP. wrote:FYI... League Pass is %50 off right now, so 99.99 for the full year(you can go back and rewatch games). Not bad until you find out about all the blackouts(but I think you can watch those games when archived).
https://watch.nba.com/streaming-subscriptions
i would buy the individual games if it werent for the stupid blackouts.....
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Post#512 » by greg4012 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:19 pm

Have we had the toughest schedule in the NBA to date when you account for schedule construction? We lead the league in away games and have to be up there in back to backs.

All things considered, we have done damn well with our tough start and seemingly missing at least one key piece every night (I won't even get into the fact that our main frontcourt depth piece--Morris--has been out for 20 days/10 games and counting due to the egregious shove by Jokic).
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Post#513 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:17 pm

greg4012 wrote:Have we had the toughest schedule in the NBA to date when you account for schedule construction? We lead the league in away games and have to be up there in back to backs.

All things considered, we have done damn well with our tough start and seemingly missing at least one key piece every night (I won't even get into the fact that our main frontcourt depth piece--Morris--has been out for 20 days/10 games and counting due to the egregious shove by Jokic).


3rd hardest I believe and we’re sitting pretty while being super banged up
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Post#514 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:18 pm

Gabe is averaging like 14 over his last 5 on 45% from 3 lol. Keep shutting me up!

For those who forgot, we brought Gabe in due to his elite shooting in the gleague.
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Post#515 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:34 pm

Cousins to the Bucks, tbh he could’ve benefited us to give Bam some rest since Spo doesn’t trust Yurt.
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Post#516 » by balla345 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:32 pm

That Robinson for Turner swap would be the best hands down.
Moves bam to the 4
Gives us even more elite defense
Turner can spread the floor he has good enough shot
Herro could stay in the bench and when dipo comes back holy cow.
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Post#517 » by eddieheatfan » Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:32 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Cousins to the Bucks, tbh he could’ve benefited us to give Bam some rest since Spo doesn’t trust Yurt.
he would have been fun down here, oh well
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Post#518 » by carnageta » Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:47 pm

Why would Indiana trade Turner for Robinson? Everyone in the league knows Robinson is playing like doo-doo and the Pacers aren't just going to gift one of their greatest rivals a trip to the NBA finals.

Let it go. lol
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Post#519 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:15 am

carnageta wrote:Why would Indiana trade Turner for Robinson? Everyone in the league knows Robinson is playing like doo-doo and the Pacers aren't just going to gift one of their greatest rivals a trip to the NBA finals.

Let it go. lol


Indiana has been trying to trade Turner for years. They may do it for an elite shooter and a first or something. Don’t know if they don’t try. Obviously they haven’t gotten many good offers or he’d already be gone.
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Post#520 » by carnageta » Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:54 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
carnageta wrote:Why would Indiana trade Turner for Robinson? Everyone in the league knows Robinson is playing like doo-doo and the Pacers aren't just going to gift one of their greatest rivals a trip to the NBA finals.

Let it go. lol


Indiana has been trying to trade Turner for years. They may do it for an elite shooter and a first or something. Don’t know if they don’t try. Obviously they haven’t gotten many good offers or he’d already be gone.


Myles can definitely fetch a greater return than this year's version of Duncan Robinson.

Dude has 37/33/62 shooting splits and ranks outside the top 100 in 3pt percentage. He's also not a great defender, never gets the benefit of the doubt from the referees, and is on a 90m contract.

I love Turner and I want him, but it's not possible without including another asset in exchange. Donuts ain't enough

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