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2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#501 » by Hallstar » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:19 pm

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Heat3 wrote:Fans here were mad Heat didn’t overpay for Beal before the Dame thing even happened. That isn’t even mentioned anymore. I wonder why…Fans here still crying about Dame even though he didn’t do anything on a better team in year 1 and is already broken in year 2. Our window will already be closed with him.

Anyone want a broken Dame right now? Portland wanted Jimmy or Bam. Didn’t even pickup the phone for anything else. Imagine our team now. No Bam. Broken Dame. Jimmy causing trouble :lol:

Now people mad about KD. An old ass player who only won when he joined the best team of all time almost a decade ago. Failed with Booker and Beal. Failed with Kyrie and Harden. Failed with Harden and Wesrbrook. But it was going to be better here at age 37???

You all need to understand the Heat are not in a position to win it all right now and can’t afford to give up youth and future assets for fools gold. Everyone complains about dumb trades they’ve made in the past and still push for dumb trades now as if it will be different.


So your argument is Miami should only acquire players who haven't failed elsewhere?

He's saying don't overpay for old assets

If we had a crippled Dame and an extended give effort 30 games a year Jimmy, Bam would probably be looking for the door right now.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#502 » by eddieheatfan » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:21 pm

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Post#503 » by greg4012 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:24 pm

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lol.....Micky Arison is a nepo baby as well. So is Spoelstra.


Nepo babies can be great and successful. Who you know can take you a long way. That doesn't mean they are beyond criticism or scrutiny.


You are the one who brought up Nick being a nepo baby being an issue.....I couldn't care less who someone's dad is.

Spoelstra only got his foot in the door in the NBA because his dad was the GM of the Trailblazers back in the day. Doesn't mean Spo isn't an all-time great coach.


I called him a nepo baby. I didn't characterize the fact that he was a nepo baby as an explicit issue. I called attention to Nick Arison as someone who is literally in charge of all basketball ops but escapes scrutiny on here. Sorry if you're a big fan of his and took that personally, but I think it's worth consideration.

Talking about Spo having a father that was part of an entirely separate organization which surely helped him get an entry level position in the NBA is a weird detour in attempting to turn my post into some sort of study on nepo babies being inherently unqualified as a whole. What the hell is going on here?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#504 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:28 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Please move Wiggins


Wiggins and Rozier for Smart and Middleton.

Damn that's a money for money trade 54.8 for 54.8. I would like to get some picks back from the Wizards but I'm definitely down to do this. Wiggins would reunite with his best friend Jordan Poole. Give us three second rd picks and we call it a deal. Wiggins would be a good fit for the young Wiz
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#505 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:31 pm

I would take Khris Middleton and his cadaver knees and expiring contract over Demar DeRozan any day. Actually think if Middleton is healthy he's a better fit as a spot up shooter for our bigs.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#506 » by SoFlaKingReal » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:33 pm

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Nepo babies can be great and successful. Who you know can take you a long way. That doesn't mean they are beyond criticism or scrutiny.


You are the one who brought up Nick being a nepo baby being an issue.....I couldn't care less who someone's dad is.

Spoelstra only got his foot in the door in the NBA because his dad was the GM of the Trailblazers back in the day. Doesn't mean Spo isn't an all-time great coach.


I called him a nepo baby. I didn't characterize the fact that he was a nepo baby as an explicit issue. I called attention to Nick Arison as someone who is literally in charge of all basketball ops but escapes scrutiny on here. Sorry if you're a big fan of his and took that personally, but I think it's worth consideration.

Talking about Spo having a father that was part of an entirely separate organization which surely helped him get an entry level position in the NBA is a weird detour in attempting to turn my post into some sort of study on nepo babies being inherently unqualified as a whole. What the hell is going on here?


I wouldn't know Nick Arison if he walked past me.

I just think we are running out of fingers to point before we get to him lol
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#507 » by SA37 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:34 pm

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Heat3 wrote:Fans here were mad Heat didn’t overpay for Beal before the Dame thing even happened. That isn’t even mentioned anymore. I wonder why…Fans here still crying about Dame even though he didn’t do anything on a better team in year 1 and is already broken in year 2. Our window will already be closed with him.

Anyone want a broken Dame right now? Portland wanted Jimmy or Bam. Didn’t even pickup the phone for anything else. Imagine our team now. No Bam. Broken Dame. Jimmy causing trouble :lol:

Now people mad about KD. An old ass player who only won when he joined the best team of all time almost a decade ago. Failed with Booker and Beal. Failed with Kyrie and Harden. Failed with Harden and Wesrbrook. But it was going to be better here at age 37???

You all need to understand the Heat are not in a position to win it all right now and can’t afford to give up youth and future assets for fools gold. Everyone complains about dumb trades they’ve made in the past and still push for dumb trades now as if it will be different.


So your argument is Miami should only acquire players who haven't failed elsewhere?

He's saying don't overpay for old assets

If we had a crippled Dame and an extended give effort 30 games a year Jimmy, Bam would probably be looking for the door right now.


Injuries happen. They happen to players of all ages, including Tatum (27) and Haliburton (25).

The "old" asset in question is a FAR superior player to anyone on Miami's roster.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#508 » by CrossOver » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:39 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#509 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:40 pm

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This one is too easy. Been pounding the table on Wiggins to the Lakers for a while now.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#510 » by Daffy » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:43 pm

Has there been any additional information on that overseas offensive minded coach that was rumored to be joining us?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#511 » by EMC5466 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:47 pm

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This one is too easy. Been pounding the table on Wiggins to the Lakers for a while now.

Yep, you’ve been calling this one for a while now.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#512 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:48 pm

Daffy wrote:Has there been any additional information on that overseas offensive minded coach that was rumored to be joining us?

No that was some fake news
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#513 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:48 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:
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This one is too easy. Been pounding the table on Wiggins to the Lakers for a while now.

Yep, you’ve been calling this one for a while now.

Hoping we can get Dalton Knecht out of this to take over the Duncan role. We really need some shooters
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#514 » by MiamiLoyal926 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:49 pm

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Hallstar wrote:
SA37 wrote:
So your argument is Miami should only acquire players who haven't failed elsewhere?

He's saying don't overpay for old assets

If we had a crippled Dame and an extended give effort 30 games a year Jimmy, Bam would probably be looking for the door right now.


Injuries happen. They happen to players of all ages, including Tatum (27) and Haliburton (25).

The "old" asset in question is a FAR superior player to anyone on Miami's roster.


Difference is that at age 25 & 27, there is still time to allow them to recover and potentially return to an impactful role… so trading away assets for a younger player gives you more years of potential return on investment than an almost end of career player, no matter how good they were and may still be for the next few years.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#515 » by twix2500 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:57 pm

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Shewasfly wrote:I wonder if in all this Micky Arison starts considering selling the team too. Maybe the 10b deal for the Lakers has him licking his chops to get out before a true rebuild is forced on him and income declines.


From what I understand Nick has actually assumed most of the executive decision making responsibilities. He's still a fairly young guy as far as executives go, they'll probably keep it in the family for a while.
Nick been running the ship for a while now

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#516 » by twix2500 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:58 pm

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This pick is not getting traded. WCJ will be celebrated tomorrow


Hopefully we also buy a SRP and grab another player we like without having to hope they go un-drafted. A Pelle type of pick, and put them on a two-way. It is time to lean in on real youth development!
Heat needs to clear roster spots. Can't really add anyone more players unless you not adding one single free agent

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#517 » by greg4012 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:59 pm

SoFlaKingReal wrote:
greg4012 wrote:
SoFlaKingReal wrote:
You are the one who brought up Nick being a nepo baby being an issue.....I couldn't care less who someone's dad is.

Spoelstra only got his foot in the door in the NBA because his dad was the GM of the Trailblazers back in the day. Doesn't mean Spo isn't an all-time great coach.


I called him a nepo baby. I didn't characterize the fact that he was a nepo baby as an explicit issue. I called attention to Nick Arison as someone who is literally in charge of all basketball ops but escapes scrutiny on here. Sorry if you're a big fan of his and took that personally, but I think it's worth consideration.

Talking about Spo having a father that was part of an entirely separate organization which surely helped him get an entry level position in the NBA is a weird detour in attempting to turn my post into some sort of study on nepo babies being inherently unqualified as a whole. What the hell is going on here?


I wouldn't know Nick Arison if he walked past me.

I just think we are running out of fingers to point before we get to him lol


So just nitpicking improper interpretations of my post for sport. Got it.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#518 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Jun 24, 2025 6:01 pm

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SA37 wrote:
Heat3 wrote:Fans here were mad Heat didn’t overpay for Beal before the Dame thing even happened. That isn’t even mentioned anymore. I wonder why…Fans here still crying about Dame even though he didn’t do anything on a better team in year 1 and is already broken in year 2. Our window will already be closed with him.

Anyone want a broken Dame right now? Portland wanted Jimmy or Bam. Didn’t even pickup the phone for anything else. Imagine our team now. No Bam. Broken Dame. Jimmy causing trouble :lol:

Now people mad about KD. An old ass player who only won when he joined the best team of all time almost a decade ago. Failed with Booker and Beal. Failed with Kyrie and Harden. Failed with Harden and Wesrbrook. But it was going to be better here at age 37???

You all need to understand the Heat are not in a position to win it all right now and can’t afford to give up youth and future assets for fools gold. Everyone complains about dumb trades they’ve made in the past and still push for dumb trades now as if it will be different.


So your argument is Miami should only acquire players who haven't failed elsewhere?

He's saying don't overpay for old assets

If we had a crippled Dame and an extended give effort 30 games a year Jimmy, Bam would probably be looking for the door right now.


He should be looking for the door right now lol
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#519 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Jun 24, 2025 6:04 pm

So we’re just assuming Dame suffers a freak injury in Miami where he tears his Achilles because that’s what happened in Milwaukee? Honestly if you get Dame and he Jimmy and Bam get you a championship last year, as unfortunate as it would be, I don’t think many of us would be regretting the move at all even if he tore his Achilles here. Bam and Jimmy were on the cusp as it was, dame is exactly what that build was missing. KD too. Can you imagine someone beating us with KD plugged in on that 2023 team? I sure as hell can’t.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#520 » by MiamiLoyal926 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 6:06 pm

twix2500 wrote:
MiamiLoyal926 wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
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This pick is not getting traded. WCJ will be celebrated tomorrow


Hopefully we also buy a SRP and grab another player we like without having to hope they go un-drafted. A Pelle type of pick, and put them on a two-way. It is time to lean in on real youth development!
Heat needs to clear roster spots. Can't really add anyone more players unless you not adding one single free agent

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This is why I suggested putting the new SRP on a two-way…

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