2025-26 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 3.0

[Enso]

Lotta games being played through the press.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Patrick I am BEGGING you, if you get us Giannis by the deadline ill get your name tattooed on my daughters forehead in your honor and name my first born son “The Godfather” after you

[contract]

Been calling out Ware since the beginning of the season.. but some people here think he is this other world, next generation talent..

And some have him as an untradeable asset. He Cant be traded unless theyre getting a top star in return.

The guys motivation issues has been documented since his days in Oregon, since his days in Indiana.

He has had Haslem and Bam on his ass.. and he still is this immature pouty little boy.. cant make someone grow up into a man.. and maybe it is time to cut loose and let some other team have their attempt at making him grow up.

It may even work out that way for him.. some players, when they get traded and they know they are basically on their second and last chance, they may change.

Ware is only making $4.5 mill per this season and next. Leave him right where he is. When it comes time for a new contract, then you cut bait.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Coming off an NBA Finals

[Flash4thewin]

Been calling out Ware since the beginning of the season.. but some people here think he is this other world, next generation talent..

And some have him as an untradeable asset. He Cant be traded unless theyre getting a top star in return.

The guys motivation issues has been documented since his days in Oregon, since his days in Indiana.

He has had Haslem and Bam on his ass.. and he still is this immature pouty little boy.. cant make someone grow up into a man.. and maybe it is time to cut loose and let some other team have their attempt at making him grow up.

It may even work out that way for him.. some players, when they get traded and they know they are basically on their second and last chance, they may change.

Ware is only making $4.5 mill per this season and next. Leave him right where he is. When it comes time for a new contract, then you cut bait.

Why? That’s asset mismanagement. It’s painfully obvious that Spo lost Ware. Ware at the moment does have value where he can fetch at least a first round pick if not more, so why not trade him now before he inevitably publicly demands a trade and tanks his value?

Remember in college his first coach didn’t play him, did he listen to that coach or did he take matters into his own hands and transfer to a team that would play him? Feels like we are heading for a repeat. Just trade him now and get the most you can for him. The Laker for example would gladly trade a first for Ware.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Been calling out Ware since the beginning of the season.. but some people here think he is this other world, next generation talent..

And some have him as an untradeable asset. He Cant be traded unless theyre getting a top star in return.

The guys motivation issues has been documented since his days in Oregon, since his days in Indiana.

He has had Haslem and Bam on his ass.. and he still is this immature pouty little boy.. cant make someone grow up into a man.. and maybe it is time to cut loose and let some other team have their attempt at making him grow up.

It may even work out that way for him.. some players, when they get traded and they know they are basically on their second and last chance, they may change.

Ware is only making $4.5 mill per this season and next. Leave him right where he is. When it comes time for a new contract, then you cut bait.

Why? That’s asset mismanagement. It’s painfully obvious that Spo lost Ware. Ware at the moment does have value where he can fetch at least a first round pick if not more, so why not trade him now before he inevitably publicly demands a trade and tanks his value?

Remember in college his first coach didn’t play him, did he listen to that coach or did he take matters into his own hands and transfer to a team that would play him? Feels like we are heading for a repeat. Just trade him now and get the most you can for him. The Laker for example would gladly trade a first for Ware.

He seemed to respond well to Mike Woodson in Indiana but has reverted back to his Oregon stint with Spo. Maybe it’s just not the right coaching and organizational fit for him here.

[MettaWorldPanda]

This team desperately needs to bolster the front court with depth at Center and PF if Spo wants to continue playing games with Ware. Running Jovic at the 5 and playing Wiggins at the 4 just needs to stop already. Trade Wiggins for some real front court help. We have Larrson and JJJ to handle the 3 spot.

[marson]

This team desperately needs to bolster the front court with depth at Center and PF if Spo wants to continue playing games with Ware. Running Jovic at the 5 and playing Wiggins at the 4 just needs to stop already. Trade Wiggins for some real front court help. We have Larrson and JJJ to handle the 3 spot.

I wonder if PJ Washington is available, great rebounder PF and perfect fit alongside Bam.

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Patrick I am BEGGING you, if you get us Giannis by the deadline ill get your name tattooed on my daughters forehead in your honor and name my first born son “The Godfather” after you

So other teams have their ammo ready too for Giannis, and with Ware sulking and lowering his value, our chances are now down 20%

[MettaWorldPanda]

This team desperately needs to bolster the front court with depth at Center and PF if Spo wants to continue playing games with Ware. Running Jovic at the 5 and playing Wiggins at the 4 just needs to stop already. Trade Wiggins for some real front court help. We have Larrson and JJJ to handle the 3 spot.

I wonder if PJ Washington is available, great rebounder PF and perfect fit alongside Bam.

Been trying to get PJ here for way too many years. Don’t think it’s happening anytime soon after he reupped in Dallas.

[contract]

Been calling out Ware since the beginning of the season.. but some people here think he is this other world, next generation talent..

And some have him as an untradeable asset. He Cant be traded unless theyre getting a top star in return.

The guys motivation issues has been documented since his days in Oregon, since his days in Indiana.

He has had Haslem and Bam on his ass.. and he still is this immature pouty little boy.. cant make someone grow up into a man.. and maybe it is time to cut loose and let some other team have their attempt at making him grow up.

It may even work out that way for him.. some players, when they get traded and they know they are basically on their second and last chance, they may change.

Ware is only making $4.5 mill per this season and next. Leave him right where he is. When it comes time for a new contract, then you cut bait.

Why? That’s asset mismanagement. It’s painfully obvious that Spo lost Ware. Ware at the moment does have value where he can fetch at least a first round pick if not more, so why not trade him now before he inevitably publicly demands a trade and tanks his value?

Remember in college his first coach didn’t play him, did he listen to that coach or did he take matters into his own hands and transfer to a team that would play him? Feels like we are heading for a repeat. Just trade him now and get the most you can for him. The Laker for example would gladly trade a first for Ware.

This time he can't transfer. He can sit if he wants to. He can get suspended if he insists. But he has no leverage. He's not going to bully Spo, and he's sure as hell not going to bully Pat. Unless someone is willing to clearly overpay for him, I hold on to him because he's a lottery ticket. He has lottery type talent and I'm not interested in watching it blossom on someone else's roster in exchange for another late or mid 1st round pick.

He's making bench player money. As long as he is, there's no harm in keeping him on our bench.

[contract]

Ware is only making $4.5 mill per this season and next. Leave him right where he is. When it comes time for a new contract, then you cut bait.

Why? That’s asset mismanagement. It’s painfully obvious that Spo lost Ware. Ware at the moment does have value where he can fetch at least a first round pick if not more, so why not trade him now before he inevitably publicly demands a trade and tanks his value?

Remember in college his first coach didn’t play him, did he listen to that coach or did he take matters into his own hands and transfer to a team that would play him? Feels like we are heading for a repeat. Just trade him now and get the most you can for him. The Laker for example would gladly trade a first for Ware.

He seemed to respond well to Mike Woodson in Indiana but has reverted back to his Oregon stint with Spo. Maybe it’s just not the right coaching and organizational fit for him here.

That's a him problem. You don't cater to role players. It's incumbent upon HIM to fit in and find a role that the team finds useful.

He can find himself a better fit when his contract runs out in 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 years.

[contract]

This team desperately needs to bolster the front court with depth at Center and PF if Spo wants to continue playing games with Ware. Running Jovic at the 5 and playing Wiggins at the 4 just needs to stop already. Trade Wiggins for some real front court help. We have Larrson and JJJ to handle the 3 spot.

No we don't. This team is not winning a championship with or without another big rotation player. We're just fake hustling our way through another season and trying to win enough to keep fans tuning in and turning out.

This is not our year.

[TroubleS0me]

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[Crazy-Canuck]

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I wish our front office spoke like this

My guess is that they focus on ja and wiggins.

If the heat aren't going to be competitive, my guess is wiggins is opting out anyways. He's still be in his prime and looking for his last long deal.

Giannis and the bucks have openly targeted wiggins for the past 3 or 4 years.

And ja is a dame, but now you'd surround him with 3 elite defenders in giannis, turner, and wiggins plus shooting. Giannis/dame never had that.

Its a gamble, but it's a 2 year gamble and all the contracts align for a massive reset in 2 years. That's what miami should be doing.

[Crazy-Canuck]

It’s always next year with this team. 2027 the new 2010, except the cap situation and Free Agency is a totally different ball game than it was in 2010.

No player is leaving like a hundred million on the table to switch teams. Get the bag and force a trade. It’s the only play in the playbook now. Free Agency as we knew it is dead. Time for the Heat to realize this.

What I'd tell you is that cap space still gives you the flexibility to not have to match a full star player salary. It doesn't have to be max salary space, but not having to gut your team to acquire a star has its value, especially as salaries start to come down for borderline all-star players.

Imo, capspace will be used to absorb bad contracts for draft capital instead of making space for whales. Either compete or rebuild.

The okc build. The heat look like they will possibly strike out on those whales, and will overpay both herro and powell instead. And then try again later to attract the next big 3.

[Crazy-Canuck]

This team desperately needs to bolster the front court with depth at Center and PF if Spo wants to continue playing games with Ware. Running Jovic at the 5 and playing Wiggins at the 4 just needs to stop already. Trade Wiggins for some real front court help. We have Larrson and JJJ to handle the 3 spot.

No we don't. This team is not winning a championship with or without another big rotation player. We're just fake hustling our way through another season and trying to win enough to keep fans tuning in and turning out.

This is not our year.

A 1A player changes this direction massively.

If its all or nothing on giannis, i get it. Then they need to figure out what to do until next season.

They sell all assets for draft picks to build that warchest. If you sell off guys like wiggins, powell, etc.. Is that enough for giannis to think, yes I can win there right now? Does, bam, davion, pelle, and jovic inspire confidence?

Or do they build the team for giannis to make him think, "yes, I can win there right now!" Plug and play. Then you figure out who on this team fits with giannis, then sell the rest?

Imo, no right answer. But that's what the front office will need to figure out if that goal is to go whale hunting.

[Crazy-Canuck]

If they go the rebuild route and start selling event for picks, I might gamble on mathurin and give him the keys. Another horrible defensive player, but has the mindset and athleticism to be a poor man's ant.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Coinciding with Jaku's great game. Hmm

Jaku+1st is much better than a rollins+1st.

And if the heat are reluctant to include herro, then they are giving up draft capital.