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Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 2 - Can we get to first place?

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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 2 - Can we get to first place? 

Post#521 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:59 pm

I don’t like any deal or lineup that would move Tucker to the 3. I think that ruins the dynamic and flow of this team.
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Post#522 » by dshearn » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:02 am

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BFRESH44 wrote:Christian Wood’s age and contract make him an attractive piece. PJ has been great, but adding a talented, agile, and athletic 6’10 dude to your front court aside Bam would be big. And although the defensive IQ is a little Whiteside ish, I believe this coaching staff could get more out of him. That’s a bold move that can really solidify your finals run. Probably nothing but exploratory stuff happened with that though.


I'd gladly move any pick currency we have to land Wood. I think that would be agreeable for Houston as well. I'd rather not lose any rotation level players for him, including Yurt. However, that kind of compounds our roster problem with yet another rotation worthy player and limited minutes being available. It also probably wouldn't be ideal for Wood and his desire for a bigger role.


That would be an issue for sure, not sure how Wood's ego would take the role. He is a high end starting stretch 5. One of the best in the league.

With Miami he would eat a ton of mins at the 4 and 5 though. He would get the minutes of a starter, but like you say...he has to share the ball. If he voices he does not want that the conversation is over.


Duncan and picks would be fantastic for us. We have no 4/5 that can shoot the 3 like Wood. No one on Miami attacks the basket like Wood.

He is something new on Miami.
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Post#523 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:03 am

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Perfect back up to Tucker. How do you get it done though?
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Post#524 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:04 am

I’m fine with sending any picks that will improve the team by a decent margin. Even fine with trading someone to OKC to unlock more picks. Go all in for a championship. We’ll retool in a few years around Bam and Mitchell.
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Post#525 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:06 am

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Perfect! If you’re going to lead the team in usage and shot attempts this is the efficiency I want to see.

Herro should make the 50-40-90 club in his career at some point.
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Post#526 » by Wiltside » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:08 am

Pharenheit wrote:Definitely need to acquire a legit center before the trade deadline passes. That's the one thing holding the Heat back from the next level right now IMO. I'm big on Yurt, but I also think he's a year or two away from being ready. Dedmon's solid but he's not gonna cut it as a starter

Bam at center puts a cap on this team and he'll be exposed again in the playoffs if no moves are made


It all depends on matchups.

in the East, It's not like Brooklyn have a 5 man that's a problem (Claxton? Griffin? LMA?). Milwaukee likely roll with Giannis/Portis, Bam has had as much success defending Giannis as anyone. Sixers have Embiid who is an obvious matchup problem for just about anyone. Chicago have Vucevic but they don't exactly play through him these days, plus he's more of a jump shooter. Cleveland have Jarrett Allen but he's not really a massive low post threat, they'd be more of a concern on the glass though given the size of their frontline.

West has Ayton, Gobert and Jokic - but I'll worry about that if we get there. We're 6th in the league in Rebounding Rate according to BBallRef, so it doesn't appear to be a major weakness despite our size limitations.

Teams will make a move at the deadline. Just depends on who goes aggressively. I could see the Warriors making a play for Sabonis or Turner to prime themselves for a Championship tilt.

I'm probably more concerned with running Caleb as a backup 4 than I am about adding more size to the starting lineup. Preserving Tucker also a must.
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Post#527 » by 3ballbomber » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:19 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Lowry and Morris just getting their rest before they’re packaged with Herro for LeBron or Harden


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Post#528 » by somerandomdude » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:19 am

It's tough to imagine Pat Riley ever negotiating with the Mavs after they pulled out at the last minute on the Butler S&T. That little stunt almost cost us Jimmy and, considering the history between the two teams, it's hard to believe they were ever negotiating in good faith.

A trade could happen, but it'd have to be a really good trade for us and they'd have to act fast.
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Post#529 » by 3ballbomber » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:27 am

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Lowry and Morris just getting their rest before they’re packaged with Herro for LeBron or Harden
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Haha you all wouldn’t trade Herro straight up for Giannis at this point.

You'd trade the whole damn team for a stale half pack of gum to simply please yourself

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Post#530 » by oreon » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:28 am

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Pharenheit wrote:Definitely need to acquire a legit center before the trade deadline passes. That's the one thing holding the Heat back from the next level right now IMO. I'm big on Yurt, but I also think he's a year or two away from being ready. Dedmon's solid but he's not gonna cut it as a starter

Bam at center puts a cap on this team and he'll be exposed again in the playoffs if no moves are made


It all depends on matchups.

in the East, It's not like Brooklyn have a 5 man that's a problem (Claxton? Griffin? LMA?). Milwaukee likely roll with Giannis/Portis, Bam has had as much success defending Giannis as anyone. Sixers have Embiid who is an obvious matchup problem for just about anyone. Chicago have Vucevic but they don't exactly play through him these days, plus he's more of a jump shooter. Cleveland have Jarrett Allen but he's not really a massive low post threat, they'd be more of a concern on the glass though given the size of their frontline.

West has Ayton, Gobert and Jokic - but I'll worry about that if we get there. We're 6th in the league in Rebounding Rate according to BBallRef, so it doesn't appear to be a major weakness despite our size limitations.

Teams will make a move at the deadline. Just depends on who goes aggressively. I could see the Warriors making a play for Sabonis or Turner to prime themselves for a Championship tilt.

I'm probably more concerned with running Caleb as a backup 4 than I am about adding more size to the starting lineup. Preserving Tucker also a must.


You're being too kind to Gobert and Ayton. Neither are post up threats. And both are slender, Bam can easily box them out. Jokic and Embiid are the only 2 centers who I'd be worried about. Fortunately their teams are not good enough to contend as a whole.
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Post#531 » by DayofMourning » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:33 am

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eddieheatfan wrote: :crazy:


Haha you all wouldn’t trade Herro straight up for Giannis at this point.

You'd trade the whole damn team for a stale half pack of gum to simply please yourself

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Lmao

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Post#532 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:36 am

Guy we do not have to go bigger. If they do cool if they don’t cool. Just look to improve somewhere. Going bigger takes Pj out of the starting lineup too which we don’t want. It’s just not happening.

We went to the finals with this style and lost due to injuries to our 2nd and 3rd best players. PJ is the best player at the 4 we’ve had next to Bam, ever. It’s not even close. We have Lowry running point now. Herro and bam are older and have improved their game. Duncan seems to be getting back to his ways (if we don’t trade him). Bench overall seems to be better now unless I’m drawing a blank. Jimmy is Jimmy.

The Heat are also active in the trade market as has been reported so it’s ok to discuss trades even if we’re the first seed. This is a fun time of year and it’s fun to speculate on what may happen at the deadline.

We may be the 1st seed right now but we’re 2.5 games away from the 6th seed. A couple tick tack injuries causing a 4 game losing streak could put us in a completely different situation. Why not look to improve if possible?
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Post#533 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:38 am

3ballbomber wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
eddieheatfan wrote: :crazy:


Haha you all wouldn’t trade Herro straight up for Giannis at this point.

You'd trade the whole damn team for a stale half pack of gum to simply please yourself

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I mean I was 100% joking as the lakers and nets wouldn’t do those trades but yes I’d love to make a trade to improve the team and better our chances for a championship. I’m sorry for wanting to put ourselves in the best possible position to win a championship, which is what the goal is every season. :lol:
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Post#534 » by somerandomdude » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:38 am

Kinda expected, but still disappointing.

But these are good players, so I can't be mad. Trae Young's the the most questionable because his team isn't doing well, but there's no denying his talent.

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Post#535 » by dshearn » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:39 am

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Pharenheit wrote:Definitely need to acquire a legit center before the trade deadline passes. That's the one thing holding the Heat back from the next level right now IMO. I'm big on Yurt, but I also think he's a year or two away from being ready. Dedmon's solid but he's not gonna cut it as a starter

Bam at center puts a cap on this team and he'll be exposed again in the playoffs if no moves are made


It all depends on matchups.

in the East, It's not like Brooklyn have a 5 man that's a problem (Claxton? Griffin? LMA?). Milwaukee likely roll with Giannis/Portis, Bam has had as much success defending Giannis as anyone. Sixers have Embiid who is an obvious matchup problem for just about anyone. Chicago have Vucevic but they don't exactly play through him these days, plus he's more of a jump shooter. Cleveland have Jarrett Allen but he's not really a massive low post threat, they'd be more of a concern on the glass though given the size of their frontline.

West has Ayton, Gobert and Jokic - but I'll worry about that if we get there. We're 6th in the league in Rebounding Rate according to BBallRef, so it doesn't appear to be a major weakness despite our size limitations.

Teams will make a move at the deadline. Just depends on who goes aggressively. I could see the Warriors making a play for Sabonis or Turner to prime themselves for a Championship tilt.

I'm probably more concerned with running Caleb as a backup 4 than I am about adding more size to the starting lineup. Preserving Tucker also a must.


You're being too kind to Gobert and Ayton. Neither are post up threats. And both are slender, Bam can easily box them out. Jokic and Embiid are the only 2 centers who I'd be worried about. Fortunately their teams are not good enough to contend as a whole.



Miami did a ridiculous job of getting Embiid out of position when he added help defense on drives. I don't know if anyone can slow him down with his current production, but we can boost out shot percentage if we can continue the sucess we had against him.

We do have to get Yurt in a place he can control his fouling though, we needed him for that entire game.
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Post#536 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:39 am

somerandomdude wrote:Kinda expected, but still disappointing.

FWIW I think those guys here have had good seasons. Trae Young being the most questionable because his team isn't doing well, but there's no denying his talent.

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Post#537 » by Wiltside » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:45 am

If Jimmy played more games, I'd take this as a major slight. Particularly after last year when he should've made it too.

Still, I have no doubt Jimmy will be in. I think he's the only representation we will get though.
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Post#538 » by DayofMourning » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:49 am

Never think of Young as an all star starter level talent.
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Post#539 » by somerandomdude » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:55 am

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somerandomdude wrote:Kinda expected, but still disappointing.

FWIW I think those guys here have had good seasons. Trae Young being the most questionable because his team isn't doing well, but there's no denying his talent.

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KD will get an injury replacement is that the coaches pick or just the guy next in line for the front court?


Good question. If it's the coaches' pick, I like Jimmy's odds of making it.
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Post#540 » by somerandomdude » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:57 am

Spo in a 3-way tie for 5th best

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