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Re: 2023 NBA Playoffs, Round 1, Game 2: Heat @ Bucks, 4/19, 9:00pm EST 

Post#521 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:33 am

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:If Bam had 0 points in game 7 of the nba finals this place would be on fire, whether we won or not. Same would be happening if he was being outplayed by Hibbert


Like any star player, he was getting criticized when he had those games. Just like Bam is and just like Butler. I don't know what this proves? He had bad games in the playoffs yeah, it doesn't make him worse than Bam. And he also had a huge game 6 that won us the 2nd ring. He had the biggest rebound in NBA history, that lead to Ray Allen shot. He had a crucial block to win that game in OT as well.
Its not just numbers and Bam numbers are not even better anyways. Its the whole career. 11 time allstar, years in Toronto as no 1 option, his ability to space the floor which made the big 3 offense work. Its ridiculous to say Bam 2 time allstar career so far is better than Bosh. Bosh is a hall of famer. Bam if he retired today he wouldn't be.
Maybe in 5 or 6 years, Bam does more and its a discussion but it really isn't one right now at all


To be fair I don’t think anyone is saying Bam has had a better career than Bosh right now lol but you can definitely make an argument his 4 years as a starter are better than Boshs 4 years with the big 3.
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Re: 2023 NBA Playoffs, Round 1, Game 2: Heat @ Bucks, 4/19, 9:00pm EST 

Post#522 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:36 am

If Boshs offense was infinitely better than Bams he’d be scoring at a higher efficiency than Bam, that also doesn’t factor Bam being twice as good of a passer as Bosh. Some of these takes :lol:

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Re: 2023 NBA Playoffs, Round 1, Game 2: Heat @ Bucks, 4/19, 9:00pm EST 

Post#524 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:50 am

Man I went back and watched the Crowder and Jimmy stuff. **** Jae crowder for purposely hurting Jimmy, he’s never welcomed back here in my book, he burned that bridge with that dirty ****.

That’s now back to back seasons (Pritchard) of guys yanking on Jimmys knee for no damn reason and injuring him.
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Re: 2023 NBA Playoffs, Round 1, Game 2: Heat @ Bucks, 4/19, 9:00pm EST 

Post#525 » by Heat_Down_Under » Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:51 am

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That was a spo timeout scripted assist play to Mike miller for a corner 3 :lol:
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Post#526 » by SerialChiller » Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:52 am

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I will say BAM never gave us a moment like this yet!
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Re: 2023 NBA Playoffs, Round 1, Game 2: Heat @ Bucks, 4/19, 9:00pm EST 

Post#527 » by Hallstar » Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:16 am

As far as the Bam /Bosh stuff, there's a hesitancy in Bam's offensive game that Bosh didn't have. I remember the Portland game where Bosh went off with Bron out, and dude was pulling up from all over the court like it was light work.
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Re: 2023 NBA Playoffs, Round 1, Game 2: Heat @ Bucks, 4/19, 9:00pm EST 

Post#528 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:23 am

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Would def be interesting. There’s always gonna be trolls but it be interesting to see the numbers and advanced stats head on.


I will start one at some point tonight or tomorrow and I’ll link it in here, im up for some good ol debate/comparisons by 2 Miami Heat greats playing in a similar role and it would be nice to dig up some old memories/matchups from the Bosh days. It will more than likely be Boshs 4 years with the big 3 and the 3rd option compared to Bams 4 years as a starter where he’s been 3rd/4th option every year as well


4th option c'mon lol. Bam been top 3 usage rate past 3 seasons. This season he was actually first by a hair.


My bad, he was actually 5th option not 4th his 1st year as a starter based on FGA and usage
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Re: 2023 NBA Playoffs, Round 1, Game 2: Heat @ Bucks, 4/19, 9:00pm EST 

Post#529 » by 3ballbomber » Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:27 am

AirP. wrote:14 points and 4 3s for Duncan in the 4th, also a pathetic looking drive and bounce pass to nobody.


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Re: 2023 NBA Playoffs, Round 1, Game 2: Heat @ Bucks, 4/19, 9:00pm EST 

Post#530 » by 3ballbomber » Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:38 am

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Let’s not act like if bam was playing with Wade and James that bam would make Wade and James second and third option…

Bam is the 3rd option on this team. His performance would've been much better playing off Lebron and Wade.

He is the second option. Has the second most or maybe even most touches on the team when he's on the floor. He just does nothing with the ball a lot of the time so the "stats" yall keep leaning on seem to tell a different story. But its his mentality that is the creator of that narrative, not the game plan.

As far as him being better than Bosh, he's simply not. Just remember that for almost a decade Bosh was the first option and best player on a team and took them to the playoffs a few times. I cannot think of how you could construct a roster with Bam Adebayo as your first option and best player and ever make it to the playoffs. Not even in today's game with the weak defense.


Bam is a very necessary player on a contender to compliment the all-stars/elite players. Unless he elevates his game in future he's just not that guy. He helps round out a team w/ his defense & teammanship but his not the type to win you ball games. Which begs the question wether his worth the money we gave him so prematurely.
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Re: 2023 NBA Playoffs, Round 1, Game 2: Heat @ Bucks, 4/19, 9:00pm EST 

Post#531 » by HeatingUp3 » Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:54 am

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HeatingUp3 wrote:I hope we won’t get embarrassed like this at home. We got exposed pretty quickly


I disagree, imagine this happens again in our home games. Fans will want blood, drastic dramatic changes will be forced or people will rightfully get fired.


Ok yea, let’s do that. U convinced me :lol:
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Re: 2023 NBA Playoffs, Round 1, Game 2: Heat @ Bucks, 4/19, 9:00pm EST 

Post#532 » by Heat_Down_Under » Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:57 am

Which brave OP is starting next thread? :D
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Post#533 » by Wiltside » Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:24 am

Heat_Down_Under wrote:Which brave OP is starting next thread? :D


Be my guest, fellow Australian. Surely you will lead us to the promised land. Surely.
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Re: 2023 NBA Playoffs, Round 1, Game 2: Heat @ Bucks, 4/19, 9:00pm EST 

Post#534 » by Wiltside » Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:25 am

Bosh > Bam.

Edrice could get there in time, but CB is HoFer who played with 2 all time greats and still made his impact. We were robbed of some of his prime years. Damn shame, I loved his game. Smooth lefty.
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Re: 2023 NBA Playoffs, Round 1, Game 2: Heat @ Bucks, 4/19, 9:00pm EST 

Post#535 » by Heat_Down_Under » Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:35 am

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Heat_Down_Under wrote:Which brave OP is starting next thread? :D


Be my guest, fellow Australian. Surely you will lead us to the promised land. Surely.


My very first GT was against the bucks this season and that didn’t go well lol
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Re: 2023 NBA Playoffs, Round 1, Game 2: Heat @ Bucks, 4/19, 9:00pm EST 

Post#536 » by 3ballbomber » Thu Apr 20, 2023 10:40 am

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No I mean why are people propping him up and putting him on Bosh’s level when he hasn’t done anything in a Heat jersey. It’s laughable to even compare them

Again, fans are in their feelings about both. Check the numbers. Bam is simply better.


Basketball isn't just stats. Especially now in era where numbers are inflated because of rule changes. For most people who watched Bosh, they'd agree overwhemingly Bosh was better. He was a far more complete offensive player. His midrange game was one of the best and made him a nightmare matchup for Bigs like Lopez who like to play drop. The Lebron Bosh pick and roll which could turn into a pick and pop was one of the go to plays we had in the playoffs.
And if you wanna go by stats, go year by year and Bosh stats are better. I'd bet if you adjusted for pace, Bosh stats would be even better.
But I'm going by the eye test. I watched Bosh and I've seen Bam. Till Bam improves his offense he is not in Bosh level. And its not about numbers, its the impact and having to get teams to adjust their offense to stop you. Bam isn't there yet.


Shewasfly wrote:No, they probably wouldn't. If they did it'd likely be off the strength of Wade and LeBron carrying significantly more than they had to in the big 3 era. They need space to operate. Bosh provided that, Bam absolutely would not. Bosh also has a much higher bbiq and is more poised.

I don't even get the overrating of Bam anymore. Its not like he doesn't have time to actually get there and prove. And especially now that we've gotten to the point of degrading the contributions of Heat legends to prop him up. The last time this was done among the fanbase was with LeBron but at least he is a top 10-15 player ever. What exactly are we trying to accomplish here by doing this with Bam?


lol the only person here who'd choose Bam over Bosh is to no surprise his biggest fan boy :lol: This ain't even a debate. Look @Bosh numbers in Toronto before having to heavily sacrifice his offense deferring to LeQuit & Wade. When Lebolt left you can see his numbers start to rise back up before forced to retire at just 31yo. Hell Wade & Bosh alone could have been enough to win it all. Replace Bam for Bosh & we may have won in the bubble & made the Finals last season....even taking out the finals.

In 13 seasons Bosh was a f*ckin all-star 11 times. Bam is simply a solid complimentary piece to play along the elites.
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Re: 2023 NBA Playoffs, Round 1, Game 2: Heat @ Bucks, 4/19, 9:00pm EST 

Post#537 » by 3ballbomber » Thu Apr 20, 2023 10:50 am

3ballbomber wrote:When reports scans were clear for Giannis, Bucks were -8.5 faves. W/ recent injury report it's dropped to -6.5.

This may likely be a diff gm to the 1st. If Giannis is out this will be the star out situation where everybody else steps up to win the game. Either way this is another game to take. W/ Herro out hopefully Bam will step up his offense for some scoring compensation. Let's strike.


that's basketball folks & against the #1 seed of all teams. Not shocked at all they took this gm to even the series b4 heading to our turf.
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Post#538 » by eddieheatfan » Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:44 am

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I will say BAM never gave us a moment like this yet!
:lol: :lol: :lol: thank you for the laughs after the loss it was badly needed here
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Re: 2023 NBA Playoffs, Round 1, Game 2: Heat @ Bucks, 4/19, 9:00pm EST 

Post#539 » by AirP. » Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:01 pm

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AirP. wrote:14 points and 4 3s for Duncan in the 4th, also a pathetic looking drive and bounce pass to nobody.


Garbage time competitor :lol:

The Buck's commentators mentioned how different Robinson looked out on the floor with the backups after he made his first 3, they seemed to think he looked like a completely different player and he did shoot well. It's something for the coaching staff to look into, to see if there was anything they can put their finger on that flipped Robinson's switch. The Heat are still screwed this series but maybe they can find how to get more out of that horrific contract.
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Re: 2023 NBA Playoffs, Round 1, Game 2: Heat @ Bucks, 4/19, 9:00pm EST 

Post#540 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Apr 20, 2023 1:03 pm

When you all are talking Bosh vs Bam you’re comparing their careers, no one is saying Bam has had a better career lol. We’re talking about his tenure with the Heat, specifically the big 3 era as a 3rd option compared to Bams 4 years as a starter, 3 as the 3rd option 1 as the 5th and it is definitely debatable.

When you say he’s an 11 time all star and bring up Toronto, that’s great, he had an awesome career but that’s not what’s being discussed.

Bosh career > Bams career so far

2010-2014 Bosh < 2019-2023 Bam
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