Andrew Bynum

[Mars]

...Is Center a weakness ? Yep. Would I be against getting Bynum for the minimum, assuming Riley works some magic with an end of the bench player ? Nope. But the Dude isn't starting. He'd be a minimal contributor on this team. I think using Bird and Bosh on the court at the time in the same situational scenarios is a better solution then the Messiah who shall be called Bynum. If the Heat merely wanted a 7 foot body to fill the lane, they could have picked up any number of players. Like they did with Dampier, Curry and Pittman. The issue is changing the offensive and defensive schemes for a single player...

Bosh and Bird have already proven they can't defend or rebound with Duncan, Hibbert and their ilk. How much worse can Oden or Bynum be? Neither will be a savior.

Combined in a playoff rotation with Bosh and Bird, where matchups require them, both could potentially help the team win another title by fortifying the center position; health permitting.

[AlexCRO]

so what time does he officially clear waivers? 4pm est?

5pm

[BFRESH44]

Barry Jackson ‏@flasportsbuzz 3h

Though a national report lists Heat as contender for Andrew Bynum, his agent said Miami has shown no interest in signing him.

[AlexCRO]

Barry Jackson ‏@flasportsbuzz 3h

Though a national report lists Heat as contender for Andrew Bynum, his agent said Miami has shown no interest in signing him.

So thats it

[RJM]

[LoveMyHeat]

disappointed if true

[aquaadverse]

LOL at all the people who think Bynum is the answer and any Center pickup is better than no Center pickup. Bynum frankly sucks in our system. He's not the same guy he was on the Lakers. He's immobile, taking more shots away from the basket while converting at a 41% rate. When he was on the floor with Cleveland this year, they were last in transition defense by a large margin. So the choir will stop screaming about rebounds and start screaming about stopping fast break points. Instead of running around with your hair on fire over Hibbert, you'll be complaining about Stevenson and George getting to the rim in transition.

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/88016/the-cavs-are-thinking-playoffs-the-bulls-are-thinking-ahead

Scroll to the end for his stats this year.

Is Center a weakness ? Yep. Would I be against getting Bynum for the minimum, assuming Riley works some magic with an end of the bench player ? Nope. But the Dude isn't starting. He'd be a minimal contributor on this team. I think using Bird and Bosh on the court at the time in the same situational scenarios is a better solution then the Messiah who shall be called Bynum. If the Heat merely wanted a 7 foot body to fill the lane, they could have picked up any number of players. Like they did with Dampier, Curry and Pittman. The issue is changing the offensive and defensive schemes for a single player.

Hey man, if that's the case don't you think that Riley and spo won't show any interest?

No, the main reason I posted the comment was for the unabashed exuberance some people have for him as some sort of Savior. He's not the same player he was for the Lakers prior to his surgeries. He creates other problems with spacing and transition defense. He doesn't warrant busting up the current roster to any great degree and creating future Cap space headaches or going with 4 guards because of the Hibbert boogeyman. You don't make major changes for a single team you may or may not see in the post season. At least not for Bynum. Move Joel through a trade ? Great. Waive Joel and be on the hook for his salary this season and the next? No. Very few of the Bynum fanatics even mention his surgeries or the stuff I reference in my previous post.

We've won and gone to the Finals the last 3 seasons despite finishing near the bottom in rebounding. The NBA is not a zero sum situation, it's more like whack-a-mole. If the guy is ok with a Vet minimum contract, willing to work on getting into Heat shape and sit on the bench without complaining until his number is called, fine with me. But I've seen far too many posts hysterically gushing about the need to fix the rebounding problem at any cost. That's despite our record and the history of the past few seasons. We need rebounds!!! We need rebounds !!! We'll never get above .500 without him !!!

[AlexCRO]

disappointed if true

lets wait a bit longer i trust only woj or stein

[AlexCRO]

a nice quote from ESPN Insider:

Ultimately, bet on Riley to bet on talent. As we've seen in the past, he's willing to take a gamble on a player looking for a rebirth. Given their capped-out status, it's hard to nab players like Bynum in the offseason for the championship run. The question is whether Bynum is willing to make the necessary sacrifices to make it work. And that goes for Spoelstra and his pace-and-space system, too.

[aquaadverse]

...Is Center a weakness ? Yep. Would I be against getting Bynum for the minimum, assuming Riley works some magic with an end of the bench player ? Nope. But the Dude isn't starting. He'd be a minimal contributor on this team. I think using Bird and Bosh on the court at the time in the same situational scenarios is a better solution then the Messiah who shall be called Bynum. If the Heat merely wanted a 7 foot body to fill the lane, they could have picked up any number of players. Like they did with Dampier, Curry and Pittman. The issue is changing the offensive and defensive schemes for a single player...

Bosh and Bird have already proven they can't defend or rebound with Duncan, Hibbert and their ilk. How much worse can Oden or Bynum be? Neither will be a savior.

Combined in a playoff rotation with Bosh and Bird, where matchups require them, both could potentially help the team win another title by fortifying the center position; health permitting.

And exactly how many minutes did Bird and Bosh play together last season ? When did Bird arrive and start playing meaningful minutes again ? They've played together a grand total of 60 minutes this season.

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The pairing has now played 60 minutes together and outscored opponents by 43 points. That’s a very small sample size, but their success together has been staggering. Bosh’s ability to play along the perimeter has helped, as has Andersen’s ability to finish. They’re both highly skilled with the ball in their hands and their passing has been a help. Against the Pelicans, Bosh twice found a cutting Andersen for easy layups while Andersen assisted on a three-pointer from Bosh. Defensively, the duo is holding opponents to 82.4 points per 48 minutes and 87.2 points per 100 possessions. Those are fantastic numbers, as are the teams rebounding numbers, both offensive and defensive, when the two share the floor. There is nothing to dislike about the Bosh-Andersen pairing right now. They’re playing well and could just be a major weapon moving forward.

I'd say that's far from proving your point. The actual facts are with a full season and training camp behind them, the reality might be different.

[RexBoyWonder]

Barry Jackson ‏@flasportsbuzz 3h

Though a national report lists Heat as contender for Andrew Bynum, his agent said Miami has shown no interest in signing him.

So thats it

Not really disappointed because of the fit issues. I will be more disappointed if we can't get Hawes or Okafor by the trade deadline. I like both more then Bynum for this team.

[AlexCRO]

So thats it

Not really disappointed because of the fit issues. I will be more disappointed if we can't get Hawes or Okafor by the trade deadline. I like both more then Bynum for this team.

Okafor maybe, Hawes no way

[heatlespeatles]

So thats it

Not really disappointed because of the fit issues. I will be more disappointed if we can't get Hawes or Okafor by the trade deadline. I like both more then Bynum for this team.

well don't get your hopes up cuz u aint getting Hawes

[heatlespeatles]

Barry Jackson ‏@flasportsbuzz 3h

Though a national report lists Heat as contender for Andrew Bynum, his agent said Miami has shown no interest in signing him.

he aint nobody

[AlexCRO]

Barry Jackson ‏@flasportsbuzz 3h

Though a national report lists Heat as contender for Andrew Bynum, his agent said Miami has shown no interest in signing him.

he aint nobody

Woj or Stein, nobody else

[HeatDaChamps]

Whether the agent is lying or not who knows. But if that is true, well i cant say im surprised. Bynum just doesnt seem like the guy we would bring in. But we'll see. Hes about to clear waivers in like an hour

[MisterHibachi]

I think this situation gets settled by latest Monday. Lol remember the Oden signing? He kept delaying his decision every day. I was refreshing realGM every 20 minutes for like 2 days haha

[Mars]

...And exactly how many minutes did Bird and Bosh play together last season ? When did Bird arrive and start playing meaningful minutes again ? They've played together a grand total of 60 minutes this season...

While I appreciate the data you presented on the Bosh-Bird pairing in their 60 minutes of court time together this season, the Pelicans and the other small sampling of opponents they've played together aren't the same as facing Duncan or Hibbert at center over the course of a 7-game series.

During last season's ECF and Finals, neither Bosh or Bird proved themselves capable of dealing with Duncan or Hibbert from a defensive and rebounding standpoint... They simply didn't. Both were clearly, physically overmatched.

Perhaps that all changes. Maybe those Bosh-Bird numbers from the small sample provided ultimately translates to potential Spurs/Pacers series down the road in the playoffs. But as of now, lack of size is still be the team's lone vulnerability.

[Heat fan06]

So we aren't one of the 8 teams to contact Bynums agent?

[RJM]

Wait a minute, no. No. NO! When was the last time Barry Jackson ever reported anything noteworthy about the Miami HEAT? This is an Ethan Skolnick, Tim Reynolds, Ira Winderman etc. message board.