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MettaWorldPanda wrote:DayofMourning wrote:I want to see what Jovic has in store for us. I want to see Herro stay healthy.
I’ve been a hardcore PJW stan since day one lol. I’ll take him with our current core over Jovic right now.
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:IceColdCubano wrote:
A real good read on why our offense sucks so bad: see snippet of the article below.
Butler: 38% at the rim, 50% from mid-range, 12% from 3
Adebayo: 35% at the rim, 64% from mid-range, 2% from 3
Herro: 12% at the rim, 47% from mid-range, 41% from 3
Unless the Heat make major changes to their shot chart in the second half of the season, you can forget about another run to the Finals.
Even last season, when the Heat still weren’t a good rim-pressure team, they attempted a greater amount of their shots from 3-point range in the regular season. Their improbable playoff run was fueled by shooting 38% from 3, the highest clip for a Finals team since the Kevin Durant-and-Steph Curry Warriors. It’s unrealistic to expect to catch lightning in a bottle like that again.
Teams need to tilt their offense in one direction or the other – shots at the basket or from beyond the arc. The middle ground is no-man’s land.
Is it a matter of revamping the offense and prioritizing more efficient areas of the court? Hard to say, but none of this will come as news to Erik Spoelstra. There’s a reason he stresses getting up 40 3-pointers a game (even if the Heat rarely do).
This is a personnel problem. The Heat don’t have anyone who gets to the basket for more than five field-goal attempts per game. Adebayo has become reliant on the foul-line jumper and Butler, at 34, can’t be tasked with that kind of workload at this stage of his career.
We’ve been preaching it for years. We need someone who can provide rim pressure from the guard position. It will open up so much
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:AirP. wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Spoiler:
Murray called his own number and went against the coach's play. Now you know why they need to move him as soon as possible. I'd probably quit perusing him completely at this point but would still do my due diligence on the situation to see if there's something more going on there but even if there's a reason that "could" be valid, you don't do this unless you're the franchise player who can get away with that.
That’s on the refs lol not Murray
IceColdCubano wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Dejounte Murray and Herro cannot co-exist together on this team, seen him and Trey not work out in Atlanta I would feel like Miami would either use Herro to go for Murray and something else, or use Herro to go get a PF of note and strength the front court and get Murray with Lowry. A package of Herro, Jovic + 2 FRP's should get us some premier talent where ever available. Id throw that at Cleveland and see if they would be willing to let go of Donovan Mitchell.
greg4012 wrote:IceColdCubano wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Dejounte Murray and Herro cannot co-exist together on this team, seen him and Trey not work out in Atlanta I would feel like Miami would either use Herro to go for Murray and something else, or use Herro to go get a PF of note and strength the front court and get Murray with Lowry. A package of Herro, Jovic + 2 FRP's should get us some premier talent where ever available. Id throw that at Cleveland and see if they would be willing to let go of Donovan Mitchell.
Herro should absolutely not be playing the same style of basketball as Trae Young. Off-ball Herro plz
greg4012 wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:IceColdCubano wrote:
A real good read on why our offense sucks so bad: see snippet of the article below.
Butler: 38% at the rim, 50% from mid-range, 12% from 3
Adebayo: 35% at the rim, 64% from mid-range, 2% from 3
Herro: 12% at the rim, 47% from mid-range, 41% from 3
Unless the Heat make major changes to their shot chart in the second half of the season, you can forget about another run to the Finals.
Even last season, when the Heat still weren’t a good rim-pressure team, they attempted a greater amount of their shots from 3-point range in the regular season. Their improbable playoff run was fueled by shooting 38% from 3, the highest clip for a Finals team since the Kevin Durant-and-Steph Curry Warriors. It’s unrealistic to expect to catch lightning in a bottle like that again.
Teams need to tilt their offense in one direction or the other – shots at the basket or from beyond the arc. The middle ground is no-man’s land.
Is it a matter of revamping the offense and prioritizing more efficient areas of the court? Hard to say, but none of this will come as news to Erik Spoelstra. There’s a reason he stresses getting up 40 3-pointers a game (even if the Heat rarely do).
This is a personnel problem. The Heat don’t have anyone who gets to the basket for more than five field-goal attempts per game. Adebayo has become reliant on the foul-line jumper and Butler, at 34, can’t be tasked with that kind of workload at this stage of his career.
We’ve been preaching it for years. We need someone who can provide rim pressure from the guard position. It will open up so much
It's amazing how Miami experienced over 15 seasons of arguably the greatest slashing guard of all time--leading to the greatest stretch of success in franchise history--and have since entered a drought where they can't seem to add players that can provide any rim pressure/collapse a defense.
Gotta give credit to Dragic as getting in the paint, and especially finishing at the basket, was one of his greatest strengths. But as a fan accustomed to watching Wade's greatness, it's painful to go through such long stretches where it seems a Miami ballhandler can't even get a foot in the paint. The offense becomes SO flattended out and stagnant.
AirP. wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:AirP. wrote:
Murray called his own number and went against the coach's play. Now you know why they need to move him as soon as possible. I'd probably quit perusing him completely at this point but would still do my due diligence on the situation to see if there's something more going on there but even if there's a reason that "could" be valid, you don't do this unless you're the franchise player who can get away with that.
That’s on the refs lol not Murray
The ref not seeing the timeout yes, the player going rogue on the play calling his own number when it seems like the ball was supposed to go to Trae is on Murray.
greg4012 wrote:IceColdCubano wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Dejounte Murray and Herro cannot co-exist together on this team, seen him and Trey not work out in Atlanta I would feel like Miami would either use Herro to go for Murray and something else, or use Herro to go get a PF of note and strength the front court and get Murray with Lowry. A package of Herro, Jovic + 2 FRP's should get us some premier talent where ever available. Id throw that at Cleveland and see if they would be willing to let go of Donovan Mitchell.
Herro should absolutely not be playing the same style of basketball as Trae Young. Off-ball Herro plz
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Ummm we should be able to match or outbid this even with Rozier in the deal. Found a perfect team that the Hornets could reroute Duncan too and get assets and is absolutely a perfect fit. The Timberwolves.
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Ummm we should be able to match or outbid this even with Rozier in the deal. Found a perfect team that the Hornets could reroute Duncan too and get assets and is absolutely a perfect fit. The Timberwolves.
Lowry Jovic Duncan a 1st and a swap trumps that easily
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Rozier and PJW
Murray and Bey
Might be greedy but I want a PF back in all this as well. I like the size and versatility of those guys and their ability to shoot the 3 and be guys who can get you double digits scoring nightly.
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:AirP. wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
That’s on the refs lol not Murray
The ref not seeing the timeout yes, the player going rogue on the play calling his own number when it seems like the ball was supposed to go to Trae is on Murray.
Where are you seeing it was supposed to go to Trae there?
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Rozier and PJW
Murray and Bey
Might be greedy but I want a PF back in all this as well. I like the size and versatility of those guys and their ability to shoot the 3 and be guys who can get you double digits scoring nightly.
I’m locked in here, the Schroders, Tyus Jones, Brogdons, Wrights, Morris of the world don’t intrigue me while these 2 guys are available with another perfect fit at the 4 attainable with them.
MettaWorldPanda wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Rozier and PJW
Murray and Bey
Might be greedy but I want a PF back in all this as well. I like the size and versatility of those guys and their ability to shoot the 3 and be guys who can get you double digits scoring nightly.
I’m locked in here, the Schroders, Tyus Jones, Brogdons, Wrights, Morris of the world don’t intrigue me while these 2 guys are available with another perfect fit at the 4 attainable with them.
Spot on. Especially if Jovic has to go out in these deals.
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
I’m locked in here, the Schroders, Tyus Jones, Brogdons, Wrights, Morris of the world don’t intrigue me while these 2 guys are available with another perfect fit at the 4 attainable with them.
Spot on. Especially if Jovic has to go out in these deals.
Numbers wise neither deal is really all that complicated either and I believe that asset wise as well. Hawks deal is actually a little easier to work out. I’m not sure which I prefer but I’d be hype for either
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Damn you Bammy. You got me thinking that we could have a great shot at Murray again. Saddiq Bey would be such an awesome 4 here. I’d probably give the Hawks the 2 1st and Jovic. Don’t have to trade Duncan in this scenario.