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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#581 » by CrossOver » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:07 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#583 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:09 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:The truth hurts, I know. But until we stop ignoring it it’ll never change. Blow it up for Rex

The soft blow up trade for Herro is sending him to Utah for Clarkson and Sexton. That’s ripping the band aid off and starting over. Other than that Poole just went for McCollum which was the other option. Not much else other than that makes sense.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#584 » by SoFlaKingReal » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:10 pm

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fincane30 wrote:
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That’s ok I’ll stick with Kobe who was never traded but I appreciate your suggestion and I’m sorry for hurting you!

Well Kobe was traded. It was the Hornets who did it. But there is a trade on his docket.

I'm not hurt. Now how hurt you are should be investigated. Constantly posting about saving Bam and trading him places not to waste another year of his career. Would you buy a Spurs Bam jersey in support of that trade? Or is this moaning about the state of your favorite player's career just reserved for this space?


Dammit you caught me!! I’m trying to save Bam AND the Heat all at once. Bam won’t win here and he wants to win, by trading him and giving him what he wants we in return get the assets we need. Then we can stop being delusional about Tyler and try to ship him out for some assets, I’m just not sure who else needs a 1 dimensional player who disappears in the playoffs each year but surely someone will take a gamble.

Unfortunate it’s come to this but it’s necessary for both sides to get what they need


Its also a dangerous game to play if you are Bam and you ask out of Miami. What if, for example, Utah offers the best package for him?

At that point, he'd probably wish he just stayed in Miami.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#585 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:11 pm

Glad Dru can sign another two way qualifying offer. That’s an easy one
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#586 » by twix2500 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:12 pm

The Heat must be sure a deal is going to happen one way or another to occupy roster spots this early.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#587 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:12 pm

Bam is not asking out. Bam loves this franchise to the bone. UD would kick his ass if he asked out
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#588 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:12 pm

SoFlaKingReal wrote:
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fincane30 wrote:Well Kobe was traded. It was the Hornets who did it. But there is a trade on his docket.

I'm not hurt. Now how hurt you are should be investigated. Constantly posting about saving Bam and trading him places not to waste another year of his career. Would you buy a Spurs Bam jersey in support of that trade? Or is this moaning about the state of your favorite player's career just reserved for this space?


Dammit you caught me!! I’m trying to save Bam AND the Heat all at once. Bam won’t win here and he wants to win, by trading him and giving him what he wants we in return get the assets we need. Then we can stop being delusional about Tyler and try to ship him out for some assets, I’m just not sure who else needs a 1 dimensional player who disappears in the playoffs each year but surely someone will take a gamble.

Unfortunate it’s come to this but it’s necessary for both sides to get what they need


Its also a dangerous game to play if you are Bam and you ask out of Miami. What if, for example, Utah offers the best package for him?

At that point, he'd probably wish he just stayed in Miami.


These players more time than not end up where they want, if someone like Fox got his wish Bam would too. I’m sure if it came down to trading Bam after they finally agree it’s best for both sides they’d work together to find a resolution
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#589 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:12 pm

twix2500 wrote:The Heat must be sure a deal is going to happen one way or another to occupy roster spots this early.

Dru Smith 2 way and Duncan is a goner
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#590 » by Hallstar » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:12 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
fincane30 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Read on Twitter


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Everyone’s starting to notice :o


Everyone in this case is two guys on the same podcast


Read on Twitter


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Yep just them!!!

Lol, I was about to ask if you just have a list of irrelevant Tyler antagonists who post to their closest 100 friends and then you post this hahaha.

Being on twitter doesn't mean anyone else cares about their opinion.

Herro is better than every single one of those players mentioned...and btw

Herro is far closer to Booker than Simons
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#591 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:14 pm

Hallstar wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
fincane30 wrote:
Everyone in this case is two guys on the same podcast


Read on Twitter


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Yep just them!!!

Lol, I was about to ask if you just have a list of irrelevant Tyler antagonists who post to their closest 100 friends and then you post this hahaha.

Being on twitter doesn't mean anyone else cares about their opinion.

Herro is better than every single one of those players mentioned...and btw

Herro is far closer to Booker than Simons


You crack me up, please never change :lol:
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#592 » by Kobewade11 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:17 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Bam is not asking out. Bam loves this franchise to the bone. UD would kick his ass if he asked out

They’ve also paid him handsomely every chance they’ve gotten, the love is reciprocal, maybe even more so than any other player in the franchise’s history
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#593 » by fincane30 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:19 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
fincane30 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
That’s ok I’ll stick with Kobe who was never traded but I appreciate your suggestion and I’m sorry for hurting you!

Well Kobe was traded. It was the Hornets who did it. But there is a trade on his docket.

I'm not hurt. Now how hurt you are should be investigated. Constantly posting about saving Bam and trading him places not to waste another year of his career. Would you buy a Spurs Bam jersey in support of that trade? Or is this moaning about the state of your favorite player's career just reserved for this space?


Dammit you caught me!! I’m trying to save Bam AND the Heat all at once. Bam won’t win here and he wants to win, by trading him and giving him what he wants we in return get the assets we need. Then we can stop being delusional about Tyler and try to ship him out for some assets, I’m just not sure who else needs a 1 dimensional player who disappears in the playoffs each year but surely someone will take a gamble.

Unfortunate it’s come to this but it’s necessary for both sides to get what they need


So Bam won't win here but your hope is they get assets and then are fortunate enough to draft someone better than Bam? Or is it to use the Bam assets to trade for someone better that you couldn't get by just simply packaging Bam and the rest of the cupboard for? Of course this star that is better than Bam would actually have to be convinced to join a team absent of frontline talent. Generally a thing NBA stars want to do, right? Join a bad team with a bunch of unproven players.

But then you have the Tyler assets? And since he's like Jordan Poole and Anfernee Simons and no where near Desmond Bane you're looking at an older shooting guard/point guard in return and a bunch a slop to make the deal work. Oh I forgot the swap of second round picks. That is enticing. Or we're Portland and we're giving up picks to make the deal work.

All of that ignoring that Bam may just want to play his entire career in Miami and isn't looking to be saved. But if he does want to be saved the path forward appears to be straight forward with no landmines for a front office you think sucks. I'm sure they'll manage it well.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#594 » by oreon » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:21 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:I actually really like Tyler but I'm kinda siding that in order to be a true winning team the Tyler's of the world are meant to be 6th men in this league. Tyler was fantastic in that role. Not saying we need to trade him but what we do need is to be very smart with his next contract and let the league dictate his value. Currently you can see what the league is doing so why would we overpay?


Exactly. If he's okay doing a team friendly deal you resign him. If there's a trade out there for multiple 1st rounders(lottery ones) then you make the trade. Otherwise just stand pat. He's a contract for 2 years.

Personally preference would be nuke it all up but that's a no go for this FO. As far as Tyler right now, doing nothing is best option unless you can get a good trade deal or a get him on a good contract.
I'm not in favor of dumping him for whatever
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#595 » by CrossOver » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:22 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#596 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:24 pm

fincane30 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
fincane30 wrote:Well Kobe was traded. It was the Hornets who did it. But there is a trade on his docket.

I'm not hurt. Now how hurt you are should be investigated. Constantly posting about saving Bam and trading him places not to waste another year of his career. Would you buy a Spurs Bam jersey in support of that trade? Or is this moaning about the state of your favorite player's career just reserved for this space?


Dammit you caught me!! I’m trying to save Bam AND the Heat all at once. Bam won’t win here and he wants to win, by trading him and giving him what he wants we in return get the assets we need. Then we can stop being delusional about Tyler and try to ship him out for some assets, I’m just not sure who else needs a 1 dimensional player who disappears in the playoffs each year but surely someone will take a gamble.

Unfortunate it’s come to this but it’s necessary for both sides to get what they need


So Bam won't win here but your hope is they get assets and then are fortunate enough to draft someone better than Bam? Or is it to use the Bam assets to trade for someone better that you couldn't get by just simply packaging Bam and the rest of the cupboard for? Of course this star that is better than Bam would actually have to be convinced to join a team absent of frontline talent. Generally a thing NBA stars want to do, right? Join a bad team with a bunch of unproven players.

But then you have the Tyler assets? And since he's like Jordan Poole and Anfernee Simons and no where near Desmond Bane you're looking at an older shooting guard/point guard in return and a bunch a slop to make the deal work. Oh I forgot the swap of second round picks. That is enticing. Or we're Portland and we're giving up picks to make the deal work.

All of that ignoring that Bam may just want to play his entire career in Miami and isn't looking to be saved. But if he does want to be saved the path forward appears to be straight forward with no landmines for a front office you think sucks. I'm sure they'll manage it well.


A complete teardown, trade anyone with value, eat some bad contracts for assets, etc. If this front office is so good they’ll have it turned around in 5 years with the plethora of assets they have and the fact that they actually ARE good at drafting.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#597 » by twix2500 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:25 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
twix2500 wrote:The Heat must be sure a deal is going to happen one way or another to occupy roster spots this early.

Dru Smith 2 way and Duncan is a goner


They just annouced they are extending Smith two-way.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#598 » by twix2500 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:26 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#599 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:26 pm

oreon wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:I actually really like Tyler but I'm kinda siding that in order to be a true winning team the Tyler's of the world are meant to be 6th men in this league. Tyler was fantastic in that role. Not saying we need to trade him but what we do need is to be very smart with his next contract and let the league dictate his value. Currently you can see what the league is doing so why would we overpay?


Exactly. If he's okay doing a team friendly deal you resign him. If there's a trade out there for multiple 1st rounders(lottery ones) then you make the trade. Otherwise just stand pat. He's a contract for 2 years.

Personally preference would be nuke it all up but that's a no go for this FO. As far as Tyler right now, doing nothing is best option unless you can get a good trade deal or a get him on a good contract.
I'm not in favor of dumping him for whatever


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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#600 » by fincane30 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:31 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Dammit you caught me!! I’m trying to save Bam AND the Heat all at once. Bam won’t win here and he wants to win, by trading him and giving him what he wants we in return get the assets we need. Then we can stop being delusional about Tyler and try to ship him out for some assets, I’m just not sure who else needs a 1 dimensional player who disappears in the playoffs each year but surely someone will take a gamble.

Unfortunate it’s come to this but it’s necessary for both sides to get what they need


So Bam won't win here but your hope is they get assets and then are fortunate enough to draft someone better than Bam? Or is it to use the Bam assets to trade for someone better that you couldn't get by just simply packaging Bam and the rest of the cupboard for? Of course this star that is better than Bam would actually have to be convinced to join a team absent of frontline talent. Generally a thing NBA stars want to do, right? Join a bad team with a bunch of unproven players.

But then you have the Tyler assets? And since he's like Jordan Poole and Anfernee Simons and no where near Desmond Bane you're looking at an older shooting guard/point guard in return and a bunch a slop to make the deal work. Oh I forgot the swap of second round picks. That is enticing. Or we're Portland and we're giving up picks to make the deal work.

All of that ignoring that Bam may just want to play his entire career in Miami and isn't looking to be saved. But if he does want to be saved the path forward appears to be straight forward with no landmines for a front office you think sucks. I'm sure they'll manage it well.


A complete teardown, trade anyone with value, eat some bad contracts for assets, etc. If this front office is so good they’ll have it turned around in 5 years with the plethora of assets they have and the fact that they actually ARE good at drafting.



Ah raze the franchise to the ground and hope a phoenix rises from the ashes. It could be a pigeon that rises but you'll take that chance.

You get on the line with Bam and tell him to ask out. Riley trades Herro for Klay Thompson and a 2nd round pick swap and lets go.

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