2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4

[Wiltside]

I'm good with seeing Miami approach this free agency tepidly. Absent a roster-altering trade, Miami isn't competing this season. Miami shouldn't be quick to commit to long-term contracts/money. Miami should be aiming to maximize the value of what's on the roster for a move to come. If that move doesn't manifest in the next year or so, then blow it up (again, hopefully while having pumped up the value of current assets on roster) for maximum return.

The team already made a shift midseason. I'd like them to get off the Rozier and Wiggins contracts and just fully lean in to the youth, barring an unexpected major acquisition.

PG - Mitchell / Jackucionis / Smith
SG - Herro / Larsson
SF - Jaquez / Jovic
PF - Adebayo / Johnson
C - Ware / Vet Big

That's a fun mix of established and emerging talent. Give the guys bigger roles and see if they grow.

The level of suckage of that team is going to be biblical.

They won't be amazing, but I could see it as a play in team. Even if they do suck, so what, we reload with a high end lotto pick and get experience into our young guys.

[Lilseb93]

Even if they do suck, it's all about the future. Let's see what the young guys can do. Why can't our young guys get better? Do people think all of these guys have hit their ceiling and there is no future with any of these guys? None of them are going to be superstars, most likely, but they can't all be busts and be so bad they are going to be "biblically" awful.

[SerialChiller]

I'm good with seeing Miami approach this free agency tepidly. Absent a roster-altering trade, Miami isn't competing this season. Miami shouldn't be quick to commit to long-term contracts/money. Miami should be aiming to maximize the value of what's on the roster for a move to come. If that move doesn't manifest in the next year or so, then blow it up (again, hopefully while having pumped up the value of current assets on roster) for maximum return.

The team already made a shift midseason. I'd like them to get off the Rozier and Wiggins contracts and just fully lean in to the youth, barring an unexpected major acquisition.

PG - Mitchell / Jackucionis / Smith
SG - Herro / Larsson
SF - Jaquez / Jovic
PF - Adebayo / Johnson
C - Ware / Vet Big

That's a fun mix of established and emerging talent. Give the guys bigger roles and see if they grow.

The level of suckage of that team is going to be biblical.

So we get to see what we have and let the young players play and develop while getting a lotto pick. Then go into an offseason with a high pick to trade or use, and financial flexibility/space with no real bad contracts on the books finally. We're going to have to go through some pain to get in a better place, 1 year of watching our young guns get their chance isn't all that bad to me considering.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Mia should call Ind and see if they want Herro

They have enough defenders to help cover him being a weak link

With Hali out, he gives them much needed shooting

And they could always trade him in a years time when Hali returns

Mia should be asking for a package built around Mathurin

They have 4 1sts as well

[DayofMourning]

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Aw, hell naw!

[Beenie]

The team already made a shift midseason. I'd like them to get off the Rozier and Wiggins contracts and just fully lean in to the youth, barring an unexpected major acquisition.

PG - Mitchell / Jackucionis / Smith
SG - Herro / Larsson
SF - Jaquez / Jovic
PF - Adebayo / Johnson
C - Ware / Vet Big

That's a fun mix of established and emerging talent. Give the guys bigger roles and see if they grow.

The level of suckage of that team is going to be biblical.

They won't be amazing, but I could see it as a play in team. Even if they do suck, so what, we reload with a high end lotto pick and get experience into our young guys.

Just to clarify, the type of “suck” we are talking about will be the ‘down 25 at halftime - shut the tv off’ variety

[Kobewade11]

Mia should call Ind and see if they want Herro

They have enough defenders to help cover him being a weak link

With Hali out, he gives them much needed shooting

And they could always trade him in a years time when Hali returns

Mia should be asking for a package built around Mathurin

Is Mathurin a star or is he a tito?

[SA37]

Mia should call Ind and see if they want Herro

They have enough defenders to help cover him being a weak link

With Hali out, he gives them much needed shooting

And they could always trade him in a years time when Hali returns

Mia should be asking for a package built around Mathurin

Is Mathurin a star or is he a tito?

Super low-IQ player from what I saw in the Finals. I'd pass on Mathurin.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

So we’re definitely just waiting for the Giannis request to throw in a bid for him. Have to send Wiggins to LA or something and get a 1st out of it and then likely not do anything else like moving Roziers salary because it will help matching salary in a Giannis trade as I’m assuming the goal is to gut the roster and assets outside of Bam/Herro and add Giannis to it.

[Beenie]

Mia should call Ind and see if they want Herro

They have enough defenders to help cover him being a weak link

With Hali out, he gives them much needed shooting

And they could always trade him in a years time when Hali returns

Mia should be asking for a package built around Mathurin

Is Mathurin a star or is he a tito?

Don’t know what he is yet tbh

That’s part of the intrigue

Glimpses of semi stardom

Either way, he’s a cheaper option

[Lilseb93]

If we've made play-ins with G-league guys and super raw players, it's unlikely our first-round guys and young guys who will be stronger and more improved will somehow be WORSE. Never mind, top 5 bad. They went through a horrendous breakup that destroyed the season, and they still made the playoffs. Now they are going to be top 5 bad? I don't see it. It's more likely they will be better. Just not competing for a title.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Hawks get a sniper in Kennard too, forgot about Orlando but unless I’m missing something those are the only 2 real active eastern conference teams.

[fincane30]

Amazing how the Houston rockets went from rock bottom after dealing with the harden departure to contender that fast. Do they beat OKC? Maybe not, but they’re at that level.

Heat are in dire need of a full rebuild. They desperately need to start the asset piling and drafting high….

It wasn't fast. They were dead in Houston for 3.5 years. They had a great month of March in year 4(the 23-24 season) and got to .500. No one talked about that team in the city except when it was draft time. Hoping for the #1 pick that they never got. They were good last year. So now they're going into year 6 of a rebuild and looking to win their first playoff series since Harden quit on them. You signing up for half a decade rebuild? People think they are until they're in the middle of it.

What’s the alternative? Treading water for that same time and longer? There’s no Jimmy bailing us out of deep chit this time. Move on, time to transition to the next era. Drafting high and asset stockpiling is the ONLY way to build a title contender

There was no Jimmy last time until there was one. A player who had never advanced past round 2 as a rotation player. A guy people said was going down to Miami to cash checks and retire.

Keep living the dream if you want. The franchise you root for will never do it. Give it up.

[contract]

He'd be a nice backup big and insurance policy. I don't hate it.

Can we please stop with the geriatric set? The man is 39 years old. We don't need any more UDs and Kevin Loves on our bench or anywhere else.

[marson]

Even if they do suck, it's all about the future. Let's see what the young guys can do. Why can't our young guys get better? Do people think all of these guys have hit their ceiling and there is no future with any of these guys? None of them are going to be superstars, most likely, but they can't all be busts and be so bad they are going to be "biblically" awful.

Don’t mind the doomsday posters. The overall readability of the threads has been going downhill, which is a shame for the silent readers.

[Lilseb93]

The East is open. We're likely not going to win a title, of course, but you make a couple of trades, build a competent roster, and young guys develop into what you hope, and all of a sudden, Spo is back to being the best coach and looks better, and they surprise people. I think it's more likely they are solid to good than horrible. It's just that our bar is higher than that. Heat fans are like Laker fans. We're not the Hornets or Kings and celebrate 1 magical run once every 15 years. We want to compete for a title every year. That's the bar they set, which leads to major frustration when they can't do that.

[SA37]

Hawks get a sniper in Kennard too, forgot about Orlando but unless I’m missing something those are the only 2 real active eastern conference teams.

Boston has been "active"

[3ballbomber]

Someone gets cut → somehow it's about Bam.
Someone gets traded → suddenly it's Bam discourse.
Riley sneezes → next thing you know, it's about Bam.

What's next? Russia/China and USA conflict? Then it's about Bam?

Wash, rinse, repeat.

It aint the twit it’s the admins/mods for allowing this bullsh*t

Do you have children or an annoying younger sibling? If so, that’s how you can view our homeboy! They say the darnest things, throw tantrums, sometimes say things that are wrong, or say things that are bait, but ultimately they do things for attention and what they want is to fit in and be liked.

With all that, they also do contribute and even sometimes say things that make sense and adds to the overall collective. For all his warts, he does keep this board active, is very engaged, reads most posts and responds to many, and does offer good ideas from time to time. Does hey annoy the ish out of me? Oh yeah, so often! But he also does bring life to conversations, hope traffics, and is passionate about our team (2nd to Bam of course).

Stop fighting it, accept it for what it is, and move on. All it takes is a shift in state of mind. We all have a wild sibling, child, or cousin, and 3ammy is ours!

He may be yours but he ain’t mine. Reading same sh*t on this board daily is bs. He hates the organization, loves one player. His replies are consistent w/ that foundation & repeats it daily. Just because he’s active it don’t mean sh*t when his intentions & motives here ain’t been good & completely self driven since day 1. Who the f*ck wants to tolerates that sh*t. When he gets bombarded w/ criticism he acts like a victim & slows his role. Not long after he’s at it the same bs again. Rat.

[Dc__20]

Heat should sign any serviceable player they can on a short deal and trade them at the deadline to a contender for a pick

[SA37]

Literally everyone but Robinson getting paid. Take the hint, Pat.