Who Do We Cut (with Vote)

[Chalm Down]

We have 18 AT THE MOMENT and have to cut it down to 15. Who for you gets trade, cut or sent over-seas? I'm not going to include any of our starting 5 or def keepers cause certain guys are not going anywhere.

Def Keepers:
wade - goran - bosh - whiteside - deng - justise - UD - Amare - GGreen

We're probably cutting/trading > 3 of the guys you listed, and I'm not 100% convinced that we won't move Deng too.

What would they trade Deng for?

[contract]

We have 18 AT THE MOMENT and have to cut it down to 15. Who for you gets trade, cut or sent over-seas? I'm not going to include any of our starting 5 or def keepers cause certain guys are not going anywhere.

Def Keepers:
wade - goran - bosh - whiteside - deng - justise - UD - Amare - GGreen

We're probably cutting/trading > 3 of the guys you listed, and I'm not 100% convinced that we won't move Deng too.

What would they trade Deng for?

Mainly a smaller salary.

[BBallFreak]

Barring a trade, Ennis, Richardson, and Walker are gone imo. Richardson will be sent overseas for seasoning, and Green is a far better version of Ennis than Ennis is. Walker just stinks.

[yungsin1]

We're probably cutting/trading > 3 of the guys you listed, and I'm not 100% convinced that we won't move Deng too.

What would they trade Deng for?

Mainly a smaller salary.

That would be dumb. Deng is our best defender

[fishfuego.]

Why the hell do more people want to cut Rio than Zoran… That makes no sense you're not paying the tax

Nepotism is a bad practice I do not approve.

Rio>>>>>> Zoran, Napier, Ennis, Walker, TJ, J. Rich.

Though TJ could surpass him.

I agree.

Except TJ imo has surpass Rio based on what I saw las season.

[QUIZ]

Why the hell do more people want to cut Rio than Zoran… That makes no sense you're not paying the tax

Nepotism is a bad practice I do not approve.

Rio>>>>>> Zoran, Napier, Ennis, Walker, TJ, J. Rich.

Though TJ could surpass him.

I agree.

Except TJ imo has surpass Rio based on what I saw las season.

Mario Chalmers is a guy who has given us 36mpg during a playoff title run. TJ's only played 32 regular season games at 19mpg. He's not there yet imo. Rio has the experience. As much as everybody loves to hate him he's a guy that I'd feel comfortable with off of the bench come playoff time. He's been there before.

[Seabass777]

In my opnion I think it goes down like this:

Cuts:Walker,Ennis.
Overseas seasoning:Richardson
Trades:Chalmers,Anderson.

[3ballbomber]

Why the hell do more people want to cut Rio than Zoran… That makes no sense you're not paying the tax

Nepotism is a bad practice I do not approve.

Rio>>>>>> Zoran, Napier, Ennis, Walker, TJ, J. Rich.

Though TJ could surpass him.

I agree.

Except TJ imo has surpass Rio based on what I saw las season.

Mario Chalmers is a guy who has given us 36mpg during a playoff title run. TJ's only played 32 regular season games at 19mpg. He's not there yet imo. Rio has the experience. As much as everybody loves to hate him he's a guy that I'd feel comfortable with off of the bench come playoff time. He's been there before.

I would like nothing more than to see Chalmers go......i also do not see why people are so enamored w/ TJ - like? what the heck!! tell me any contender who would play this kid. And i agree for a deep playoff run i'd much rather Chalmers w/ his experience than TJ - dude will be clueless in that sort of highly pressured environment.

Conclusion? cut them both.

[walk with me]

Why the hell do more people want to cut Rio than Zoran… That makes no sense you're not paying the tax

Nepotism is a bad practice I do not approve.

Rio>>>>>> Zoran, Napier, Ennis, Walker, TJ, J. Rich.

Though TJ could surpass him.

I agree.

Except TJ imo has surpass Rio based on what I saw las season.

Mario Chalmers is a guy who has given us 36mpg during a playoff title run. TJ's only played 32 regular season games at 19mpg. He's not there yet imo. Rio has the experience. As much as everybody loves to hate him he's a guy that I'd feel comfortable with off of the bench come playoff time. He's been there before.

thank you for putting this out here...

i'm truly sick of people bashing rio. Yeah he was **** last year but the dude was playing on a gimpy knee and this year will be playing for a contract. Plus people don't know how to look at players... like you said there's bench players and there's starters

some guys suck as starters because they aren't really starters to begin with (rio)
some guys ball as bench players because they are better than most peoples 2nd unit guys (mirotic)


I'm 100% fine with rio as like our 7-9th player off the bench. As of now

justice = 6th man off
mcbob = 7th man off
GGreen/Rio/TJ = 8th man off
Bird/Amare/UD = 9th man off


you guys really want to trade rio for NOTHING?!?!?! This guy is the definition of what you want out of the 8th man off your bench and we won't be able to find a guy much better. Trading rio & bird away "for nothing" will just REALLY hurt our depth and force guys we don't need playing more minutes to do so.


Keeping rio & bird is genius. That way when we play the bulls/cavs in the playoffs the guys we need to be fresh can be so. If you aren't for sending any combo of zoran/ennis/walker/richardson I question your aptitude. Not only that but if we were going to "trade someone for nothing" why not let it be shabazz.... He's cute and cuddly but let's be for real. He hasn't done anything note worthy in a heat jersey ever. Rio has sucked recently but he's had some huge moments and can defend when he wants.

[DefenseWins]

I would be fine with Rio if he gets a minutes reduction, less ball handling... So he wont make us much bonehead mistakes

He went from 38% from 3 to 29%. Dude put him worse numbers than his rookie season.

I would be fine if we didnt depend on Rio as a 6th man, we did that last year and it didnt work. He is not that type of guy. He is that guy who should sit his ass on the perimeter and wait for the ball.

Also no more him playing at the end of games. I dont **** want to see a line up of Goran/Rio/Wade/Deng/Bosh. Bad wing defense right there lmao...

We dont need to depend on him like last year. But we dont need to play him as much as we did during the big 3 era. Rio is better in spot minutes now... When he is in the court for too long its a disaster, especially against elite teams last season.

Spo now has a bunch of options, no excuse to stick to one player for certain things now.

Man Rio/Cole together were so bad though... Cant believe those guys. They werent as good as we thought.

[3ballbomber]

I would be fine with Rio if he gets a minutes reduction, less ball handling... So he wont make us much bonehead mistakes

He went from 38% from 3 to 29%. Dude put him worse numbers than his rookie season.

I would be fine if we didnt depend on Rio as a 6th man, we did that last year and it didnt work. He is not that type of guy. He is that guy who should sit his ass on the perimeter and wait for the ball.

Also no more him playing at the end of games. I dont **** want to see a line up of Goran/Rio/Wade/Deng/Bosh. Bad wing defense right there lmao...

We dont need to depend on him like last year. But we dont need to play him as much as we did during the big 3 era. Rio is better in spot minutes now... When he is in the court for too long its a disaster, especially against elite teams last season.

Spo now has a bunch of options, no excuse to stick to one player for certain things now.

Man Rio/Cole together were so bad though... Cant believe those guys. They werent as good as we thought.

sooooo......in other words.......cut Chalmers

[DefenseWins]

I would be fine with Rio if he gets a minutes reduction, less ball handling... So he wont make us much bonehead mistakes

He went from 38% from 3 to 29%. Dude put him worse numbers than his rookie season.

I would be fine if we didnt depend on Rio as a 6th man, we did that last year and it didnt work. He is not that type of guy. He is that guy who should sit his ass on the perimeter and wait for the ball.

Also no more him playing at the end of games. I dont **** want to see a line up of Goran/Rio/Wade/Deng/Bosh. Bad wing defense right there lmao...

We dont need to depend on him like last year. But we dont need to play him as much as we did during the big 3 era. Rio is better in spot minutes now... When he is in the court for too long its a disaster, especially against elite teams last season.

Spo now has a bunch of options, no excuse to stick to one player for certain things now.

Man Rio/Cole together were so bad though... Cant believe those guys. They werent as good as we thought.

sooooo......in other words.......cut Chalmers

A very reduced role. Dont have superstars to cover him, but if we need some help, Rio as the 7th man off or 8th, is fine. OR, if he is **** up, sit him down. Biggest pet peeve was this dude had no leash, and its because we didnt have the depth. If he is screwing up, bench him. Doing well? Stick with him.

[G.cracker]

Bill Henry is Dead Man Walker

Richardson is a overseas stash. Too much duplication, holding his rights is more valuable than cashing in now and him beingon the books at the beginning of next summer hurts Riley's gameplan.

From there it gets tricky.

Zoran should go, but won't because Ira suggested keeping him was a reason Goran took less.

Same with UD and Wade's discount. But if UD feels outplayed/ too slow in camp,it is possible we cut him, eat the money owed and give him an automatic coaching gig a la Askins/ Juwan. But this won't ease cap, just provide a spot. If this happens, I see no way we cut Bird who is still important to us and, face it, a fan favorite. There doesn't appear to be a market for Bird now, but when centers go down, that could change.

Ennis has yet to prove he has earned it. But the team has invested a lot in him and has him locked in cheap. I can see them wanting to keep him until he proves he doesn't belong, which summer league doesn't show, as embarrassing as it was for him.

Rio's salary makes him the likely move and teams below the salary floor would probably take him, even if we had to include a 2nd (which we have few of) or just cash. But as mopper said, who do we really trust behind Goran and TJ.

TJ isn't going anywhere.

To me, then, that leaves Napier. I just don't see a place for him here. Even Norris Cole played the role of speed guard, annoyance better and his shooting and height and lack of strength make him an ill fit. Plus he would be on the books next summer, a strike against. I'd ditch him to Boston, where he is a fan favorite, for a 2nd round pick.

[HIF]

Richardson looks good enough to keep now. Stashing him would be a crime.

[Enso]

Cut amare

[Temuhjan]

In my opnion I think it goes down like this:

Cuts:Walker,Ennis.
Overseas seasoning:Richardson
Trades:Chalmers,Anderson.

Rumour has it a trade with the Clippers is being discussed where we get Jamal Crawford in return for Rio and Bird.

[HIF]

In my opnion I think it goes down like this:

Cuts:Walker,Ennis.
Overseas seasoning:Richardson
Trades:Chalmers,Anderson.

Rumour has it a trade with the Clippers is being discussed where we get Jamal Crawford in return for Rio and Bird.

As for backup point, we can sign one of Aaron Brooks, Mo Williams or Rodney Stuckey for vet's min.

Hasn't Brooks already agreed with the Bulls. Not that I'd want him he's too small (like Bazz).

[DefenseWins]

In my opnion I think it goes down like this:

Cuts:Walker,Ennis.
Overseas seasoning:Richardson
Trades:Chalmers,Anderson.

Rumour has it a trade with the Clippers is being discussed where we get Jamal Crawford in return for Rio and Bird.

As for backup point, we can sign one of Aaron Brooks, Mo Williams or Rodney Stuckey for vet's min.

So much wrong with this post bruh

Jamal cannot be had for Bird and Rio, it doesnt work salary wise unless Clips do the trade then sign DeAndre. Only Rio/Ennis, filler can work but it seems redundant. It doesnt shed salary and why get an older Rio basically?

Mo went to the Cavs. Stuckey stayed with Pacers for 7mil a year... So much for vet min.

Aaron Broks stayed with Bulls for vet min

[3ballbomber]

In my opnion I think it goes down like this:

Cuts:Walker,Ennis.
Overseas seasoning:Richardson
Trades:Chalmers,Anderson.

Rumour has it a trade with the Clippers is being discussed where we get Jamal Crawford in return for Rio and Bird.

As for backup point, we can sign either Mo Williams or Rodney Stuckey for vet's min.

I think u came from a deep hole. mo, brooks and pretty sure Stuckey also are all signed

[Temuhjan]

In my opnion I think it goes down like this:

Cuts:Walker,Ennis.
Overseas seasoning:Richardson
Trades:Chalmers,Anderson.

Rumour has it a trade with the Clippers is being discussed where we get Jamal Crawford in return for Rio and Bird.

As for backup point, we can sign one of Aaron Brooks, Mo Williams or Rodney Stuckey for vet's min.

So much wrong with this post bruh

Jamal cannot be had for Bird and Rio, it doesnt work salary wise unless Clips do the trade then sign DeAndre. Only Rio/Ennis, filler can work but it seems redundant. It doesnt shed salary and why get an older Rio basically?

Mo went to the Cavs. Stuckey stayed with Pacers for 7mil a year... So much for vet min.

Aaron Broks stayed with Bulls for vet min

My bad. Guess we will need some more of those Riley magic then.