Miami HEAT Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Sardine Central 5.0

[puppa bear]

2 questions for all the chemistry and culture lovers out there. When was the last time a team won a ring without a generational talent/elite player on their roster. Prior to that team when the last time a team before them did the same without a generational talent.

Detroit Pistons

Ben Wallace
Rasheed Wallace
Tayshawn Prince
Rip Hamilton
Chauncey Billups

Who was the generational talent there?

There was none, but there was 5 guys who could make legit claim to a bench all-star position (strength of which depending on who's in the conference). Rip & Tay were the weakest two claims, yet Rip was an amazing system scorer in the Reggie mould, and Tay was a great versatile defender who could keep you honest on the other end.

As a unit they were balanced & had everything needed to succeed in that era.

[HEATVols865]

2 questions for all the chemistry and culture lovers out there. When was the last time a team won a ring without a generational talent/elite player on their roster. Prior to that team when the last time a team before them did the same without a generational talent.

Detroit Pistons

Ben Wallace
Rasheed Wallace
Tayshawn Prince
Rip Hamilton
Chauncey Billups

Who was the generational talent there?

There was none, but there was 5 guys who could make legit claim to a bench all-star position (strength of which depending on who's in the conference). Rip & Tay were the weakest two claims, yet Rip was an amazing system scorer in the Reggie mould, and Tay was a great versatile defender who could keep you honest on the other end.

As a unit they were balanced & had everything needed to succeed in that era.

With the right coaching our team can get there too

[Wolfy1983]

If the heat denied they offered Dragic and Winslow for Kyrie, why would someone make it up? I got to believe the heat offered dragic and winslow. The heat are IMO lying to the media to make them think they are NOT involved in the Kyrie Irving talks. If I'm the heat anybody is available for Kyrie except Whiteside and BAM and The G.O.A.T.

Daffy, your avatarless profile is giving me a headache. Put the duck on there or let Iggs do his magic.

You're not talking to Daffy but here it is

I was fixing nymets post and replying to daffy. I didn't want to enlarge my carbon footprint by making back to back posts.

[IggieCC]

SMH starting new threads while old thread still only on page 96...

some players will disrupte your entire team game just for their own stats...they're all about the glory......

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[Mars]

Mark my words... this team, as presently assembled, is going to surprise the collective media and fanbase critics when it plays much better than any of them ever expected.

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Detroit Pistons

Ben Wallace
Rasheed Wallace
Tayshawn Prince
Rip Hamilton
Chauncey Billups

Who was the generational talent there?

There was none, but there was 5 guys who could make legit claim to a bench all-star position (strength of which depending on who's in the conference). Rip & Tay were the weakest two claims, yet Rip was an amazing system scorer in the Reggie mould, and Tay was a great versatile defender who could keep you honest on the other end.

As a unit they were balanced & had everything needed to succeed in that era.

With the right coaching our team can get there too

only reason that they even won in 2004 is because Kobe chose to wreck the Lakers in that Finals and Malone went down with injury

Kobe refused to let Shaq win the finals mvp again, and started chucking shots even when Phil Jackson was telling him to stop.

[Mars]

There was none, but there was 5 guys who could make legit claim to a bench all-star position (strength of which depending on who's in the conference). Rip & Tay were the weakest two claims, yet Rip was an amazing system scorer in the Reggie mould, and Tay was a great versatile defender who could keep you honest on the other end.

As a unit they were balanced & had everything needed to succeed in that era.

With the right coaching our team can get there too

only reason that they even won in 2004 is because Kobe chose to wreck the Lakers in that Finals and Malone went down with injury

Kobe refused to let Shaq win the finals mvp again, and started chucking shots even when Phil Jackson was telling him to stop.

True... but they still made it to six straight Eastern Conference Finals appearances and back-to-back NBA Finals.

[dshearn]

2 questions for all the chemistry and culture lovers out there. When was the last time a team won a ring without a generational talent/elite player on their roster. Prior to that team when the last time a team before them did the same without a generational talent.

The Mav's team that took out the the super team year 1.

[Mars]

2 questions for all the chemistry and culture lovers out there. When was the last time a team won a ring without a generational talent/elite player on their roster. Prior to that team when the last time a team before them did the same without a generational talent.

The Mav's team that took out the the super team year 1.

[dshearn]

Yesterday.

_ustise really needs to do something about that mop. I'm willing to believe there's some credibility to that theory about wild hairdos affecting jumpshot mechanics lol

He acts very professional. Too bad he doesn't try to look it as well. Bosh did when he got here. He needs to as well.

He look great to me.... and I'm a 40 something suburbia living white guy....

I get your point.... I guess... but I'm one who was disappointed when UD changed his look

[Flash4thewin]

Mark my words... this team, as presently assembled, is going to surprise the collective media and fanbase critics when it plays much better than any of them ever expected.

The regular season and the playoffs are two different animals Mars. Honestly like Pat most of us don’t give a rats ass about the regular season, it’s all about trying to get a ring and how we perform in the postseason. Do you see this team going far in the playoffs as currently constructed? Their is a reason basically every year Pat is going after stars...

[dshearn]

2 questions for all the chemistry and culture lovers out there. When was the last time a team won a ring without a generational talent/elite player on their roster. Prior to that team when the last time a team before them did the same without a generational talent.

The Mav's team that took out the the super team year 1.

Are we calling him generational now?

Maybe I'm just to bitter to accept the facts about Dirk

[dshearn]

Mark my words... this team, as presently assembled, is going to surprise the collective media and fanbase critics when it plays much better than any of them ever expected.

The regular season and the playoffs are two different animals Mars. Honestly like Pat most of us don’t give a rats ass about the regular season, it’s all about trying to get a ring and how we perform in the postseason. Do you see this team going far in the playoffs as currently constructed? Their is a reason basically every year Pat is going after stars...

This team gets hot at the right it has a punchers chance if the path lines up. The East is weak

[dean456]

The Mav's team that took out the the super team year 1.

Are we calling him generational now?

Maybe I'm just to bitter to accept the facts about Dirk

As far as offense for the PF position I'd say he's generational. Every PF in the league needs to be able to shoot either long range 2's or 3's now. Dirk pioneered that style of play for big men.

[leoshes]

If the heat denied they offered Dragic and Winslow for Kyrie, why would someone make it up? I got to believe the heat offered dragic and winslow. The heat are IMO lying to the media to make them think they are NOT involved in the Kyrie Irving talks. If I'm the heat anybody is available for Kyrie except Whiteside and BAM and The G.O.A.T.

Daffy, your avatarless profile is giving me a headache. Put the duck on there or let Iggs do his magic.

Knowing Iggy, i really want to see it.

[leoshes]

SMH starting new threads while old thread still only on page 96...

some players will disrupte your entire team game just for their own stats...they're all about the glory......

Spoiler:

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This is classic Iggy.

[IggieCC]

SMH starting new threads while old thread still only on page 96...

some players will disrupte your entire team game just for their own stats...they're all about the glory......

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

This is classic Iggy.

[goodboy]

SMH starting new threads while old thread still only on page 96...

some players will disrupte your entire team game just for their own stats...they're all about the glory......

Spoiler:

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oh chit, iggs on that 7 day free trial, need to get on it. Goodchit iggs.

[leoshes]

For those who really want Irvin, here.

Watch on YouTube

[IggieCC]

SMH starting new threads while old thread still only on page 96...

some players will disrupte your entire team game just for their own stats...they're all about the glory......

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

oh chit, iggs on that 7 day free trial, need to get on it. Goodchit iggs.