MettaWorldPanda wrote:FIRM HAND SHAKES
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MILLSAP MANIA
I'm in tears at the handshake gif. Lmfaooo
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MettaWorldPanda wrote:FIRM HAND SHAKES
TO
MILLSAP MANIA
Daffy wrote:miamiballer wrote:I dono why you guys still listen to icc…we went from Duncan gone first at 601 pm then Tyler then of course things go quiet and then oh no action til after 4th of July then now every team has gone cold
Whatever happpened to those done deals on day 1?
You know he lost his credibility the second those deals didn’t happen
Shhhhhh. Greg will come for you and get on your case if you start making too much sense.
wadenation305 wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:wadenation305 wrote:
How much you wanna bet that there will be multiple times where he is going to be wide open from that same exact spot with no one within 20 ft of him, but he will still be looking at people on the bench to pass to before even dreaming of looking at the rim and letting it fly.
Bam Simmons everyone, Heck of a passer and defensive player but don't ask for a lick more.
Name every player in the league giving you 19-10-4 while being arguably the best defender in the world
Same could have been said about Simmons no? All-defensive team, great passer, guards anybody 1-5 but when you need points Ben refuses to shoot, Bam refuses to even look at the rim unless there is no one on his way to the basket.
Don't get me wrong Bam is not trash. What makes me frustrated is that there is no reason he shouldn't be better on the offensive end. He has the tools, he has the skills. So either the team doesn't want him scoring or he simply doesn't have it in him. Either way when you have a big three, one of your 3 can't be a guy afraid of taking a PG on a 1 v 1 to the basket. You punish that every single time until they start bringing help. Then you go into your bag and whip out the passing and everything else.
greg4012 wrote:Daffy wrote:miamiballer wrote:I dono why you guys still listen to icc…we went from Duncan gone first at 601 pm then Tyler then of course things go quiet and then oh no action til after 4th of July then now every team has gone cold
Whatever happpened to those done deals on day 1?
You know he lost his credibility the second those deals didn’t happen
Shhhhhh. Greg will come for you and get on your case if you start making too much sense.
Keep it cute toots
greg4012 wrote:wadenation305 wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Name every player in the league giving you 19-10-4 while being arguably the best defender in the world
Same could have been said about Simmons no? All-defensive team, great passer, guards anybody 1-5 but when you need points Ben refuses to shoot, Bam refuses to even look at the rim unless there is no one on his way to the basket.
Don't get me wrong Bam is not trash. What makes me frustrated is that there is no reason he shouldn't be better on the offensive end. He has the tools, he has the skills. So either the team doesn't want him scoring or he simply doesn't have it in him. Either way when you have a big three, one of your 3 can't be a guy afraid of taking a PG on a 1 v 1 to the basket. You punish that every single time until they start bringing help. Then you go into your bag and whip out the passing and everything else.
When is Simmons guarding 5s or playing big? How are his screens and rebounding?
Daffy wrote:greg4012 wrote:Daffy wrote:
Shhhhhh. Greg will come for you and get on your case if you start making too much sense.
Keep it cute toots
Oh, you're still on my case toots? You must really want this friendship. Fine. I'll be your friend. Only in the off-season though.
greg4012 wrote:Daffy wrote:greg4012 wrote:
Keep it cute toots
Oh, you're still on my case toots? You must really want this friendship. Fine. I'll be your friend. Only in the off-season though.
I'm not speaking to other posters about you, so IDK who is on whose case. But I do accept your friendship and know you won't be able to say no once the season starts

Rapaz wrote:Churro Mania >>>> Millsap Mania
Someone please photoshop Millsap’s face onto this:




wadenation305 wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:wadenation305 wrote:
How much you wanna bet that there will be multiple times where he is going to be wide open from that same exact spot with no one within 20 ft of him, but he will still be looking at people on the bench to pass to before even dreaming of looking at the rim and letting it fly.
Bam Simmons everyone, Heck of a passer and defensive player but don't ask for a lick more.
Name every player in the league giving you 19-10-4 while being arguably the best defender in the world
Same could have been said about Simmons no? All-defensive team, great passer, guards anybody 1-5 but when you need points Ben refuses to shoot, Bam refuses to even look at the rim unless there is no one on his way to the basket.
Don't get me wrong Bam is not trash. What makes me frustrated is that there is no reason he shouldn't be better on the offensive end. He has the tools, he has the skills. So either the team doesn't want him scoring or he simply doesn't have it in him. Either way when you have a big three, one of your 3 can't be a guy afraid of taking a PG on a 1 v 1 to the basket. You punish that every single time until they start bringing help. Then you go into your bag and whip out the passing and everything else.

Daffy wrote:greg4012 wrote:wadenation305 wrote:
Same could have been said about Simmons no? All-defensive team, great passer, guards anybody 1-5 but when you need points Ben refuses to shoot, Bam refuses to even look at the rim unless there is no one on his way to the basket.
Don't get me wrong Bam is not trash. What makes me frustrated is that there is no reason he shouldn't be better on the offensive end. He has the tools, he has the skills. So either the team doesn't want him scoring or he simply doesn't have it in him. Either way when you have a big three, one of your 3 can't be a guy afraid of taking a PG on a 1 v 1 to the basket. You punish that every single time until they start bringing help. Then you go into your bag and whip out the passing and everything else.
When is Simmons guarding 5s or playing big? How are his screens and rebounding?
Hey friend!! Simmons is actually good at screens and rebounding. Can defend smaller 5s decent enough. Guys like Jokic, Giannis, Embiid are gonna kill him though.
greg4012 wrote:Daffy wrote:greg4012 wrote:
When is Simmons guarding 5s or playing big? How are his screens and rebounding?
Hey friend!! Simmons is actually good at screens and rebounding. Can defend smaller 5s decent enough. Guys like Jokic, Giannis, Embiid are gonna kill him though.
So Simmons is really a 1-4 defender, when he doesn't have a broken back.
Defending "1-5" is becoming a BS narrative people pump about defenders when it's only true for a small handful of players in the league (and Marcus Smart is really NOT one of them).
Further on simmons, he hasn't proven to have much of an appetite to do much big man work, which is part of the problem with him (among many other things). Just as a basis of comparison, in Simmons last healthy season he averaged 1.6 screen assists per game (compared to 4.7 for Bam in that same season). Part of that is role, but I'm VERY suspect of Simmons suddenly becoming an ego-less team player taking on the brunt of the big man work on a team.
Daffy wrote:greg4012 wrote:Daffy wrote:
Hey friend!! Simmons is actually good at screens and rebounding. Can defend smaller 5s decent enough. Guys like Jokic, Giannis, Embiid are gonna kill him though.
So Simmons is really a 1-4 defender, when he doesn't have a broken back.
Defending "1-5" is becoming a BS narrative people pump about defenders when it's only true for a small handful of players in the league (and Marcus Smart is really NOT one of them).
Further on simmons, he hasn't proven to have much of an appetite to do much big man work, which is part of the problem with him (among many other things). Just as a basis of comparison, in Simmons last healthy season he averaged 1.6 screen assists per game (compared to 4.7 for Bam in that same season). Part of that is role, but I'm VERY suspect of Simmons suddenly becoming an ego-less team player taking on the brunt of the big man work on a team.
I honestly feel Smart is overrated as a defender.
