2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 4

[oreon]

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Jimmys all over the place right now lol

Well I started to talk about his thot life in a previous post and how he missed games and practices because of thot issue. But I thought it was inappropriate. I figure some of this stuff was gonna start coming out eventually

NBA players never learn. They constantly getting trapped by these women. And what's crazy its the same women. You gotta one woman whose a baby mama to 2 or 3 NBA or NFL athletes. If you are a star athlete you either gotta do it like Lebron/Curry and go with childhood sweetheart. Or Wade go for a woman who has their own money and career. That 55k a month, probably just 10k of it goes to the kids and the rest she pockets.

[twix2500]

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Jimmys all over the place right now lol

Well I started to talk about his thot life in a previous post and how he missed games and practices because of thot issue. But I thought it was inappropriate. I figure some of this stuff was gonna start coming out eventually

NBA players never learn. They constantly getting trapped by these women. And what's crazy its the same women. You gotta one woman whose a baby mama to 2 or 3 NBA or NFL athletes. If you are a star athlete you either gotta do it like Lebron/Curry and go with childhood sweetheart. Or Wade go for a woman who has their own money and career. That 55k a month, probably just 10k of it goes to the kids and the rest she pockets.

Not just NBA players, men in general. A lot of people have a misconception of the point of marriage. The primary point of marriage is to have a child the second point is to know who your child is, the third point once you know who your child is that is where your wealth is now going to. Whom every is the gaurdian of your child regulates the child's wealth which is inherited by the parents. Then this idea of 50/50 is a myth people make up off the streets. A relationship with a child is 100/100

[contract]

... I also think that he probably believed Jimmy would see how we treated UD and taken that route in 2026 but clearly not the case there.

Against my better judgement, I'm going to tackle this.

How do you think UD was treated? When Lebron and Bosh joined the Heat, UD had to accept a 50% cut from his previous salary, and turned down a 5 year $37 million offer from Denver to stay with the Heat.

When Wade left and the Heat had nothing to play for, the Heat could have made UD whole instead of overpaying the riff-raff (Wayne Ellington, Tyler Johnson, Derrick Williams, James Johnson, and Dion Waiters) we picked off the street ... and I said so at the time. We literally had nothing to lose by paying UD. Instead they made UD sit on the end of the bench for another 7 seasons without ever coming close to recouping the money he gave up to be a "Heat Lifer".

[twix2500]

... I also think that he probably believed Jimmy would see how we treated UD and taken that route in 2026 but clearly not the case there.

Against my better judgement, I'm going to tackle this.

How do you think UD was treated? When Lebron and Bosh joined the Heat, UD had to accept a 50% cut from his previous salary, and turned down a 5 year $37 million offer from Denver to stay with the Heat.

When Wade left and the Heat had nothing to play for, the Heat could have made UD whole instead of overpaying the riff-raff (Wayne Ellington, Tyler Johnson, Derrick Williams, James Johnson, and Dion Waiters) we picked off the street ... and I said so at the time. We literally had nothing to lose by paying UD. Instead they made UD sit on the end of the bench for another 7 seasons without ever coming close to recouping the money he gave up to be a "Heat Lifer".

You really believe Haslem didnt recoup his money that he lost?

[contract]

... I also think that he probably believed Jimmy would see how we treated UD and taken that route in 2026 but clearly not the case there.

Against my better judgement, I'm going to tackle this.

How do you think UD was treated? When Lebron and Bosh joined the Heat, UD had to accept a 50% cut from his previous salary, and turned down a 5 year $37 million offer from Denver to stay with the Heat.

When Wade left and the Heat had nothing to play for, the Heat could have made UD whole instead of overpaying the riff-raff (Wayne Ellington, Tyler Johnson, Derrick Williams, James Johnson, and Dion Waiters) we picked off the street ... and I said so at the time. We literally had nothing to lose by paying UD. Instead they made UD sit on the end of the bench for another 7 seasons without ever coming close to recouping the money he gave up to be a "Heat Lifer".

You really believe Haslem didnt recoup his money that he lost?

I don't have to believe it. We can do the math if you like.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Whose gonna mute Jimmy's mic? I know his dumbass agent wont.

If he’s going to keep taking us to the finals despite a terrible roster who cares

Those weren’t “terrible rosters”, especially the bubble team. You can keep saying that, but it’s not true. What they lacked in superstar talent was made up for with depth and chemistry.

The first year was the best overall team, that shouldn’t be the case. The 2nd finals team was absolutely a terrible roster and far worse than the 1st finals team to further prove my first sentence. It’s ok, players get old and can’t perform anymore, admitting the same is happening with Pat doesn’t ruin anything he’s done in the past but he has done a terrible job with this build and it’s not even debatable

[3ammy3uck3ts]

If he’s going to keep taking us to the finals despite a terrible roster who cares

Those weren’t “terrible rosters”, especially the bubble team. You can keep saying that, but it’s not true. What they lacked in superstar talent was made up for with depth and chemistry.

Only terrible roster was the team lead by Strus

2020 best roster

2021 trash

2022 got the crowder replacement we needed (let him walk like crowder after)

2023 trash

2024 trash

[Hoops3355]

... I also think that he probably believed Jimmy would see how we treated UD and taken that route in 2026 but clearly not the case there.

Against my better judgement, I'm going to tackle this.

How do you think UD was treated? When Lebron and Bosh joined the Heat, UD had to accept a 50% cut from his previous salary, and turned down a 5 year $37 million offer from Denver to stay with the Heat.

When Wade left and the Heat had nothing to play for, the Heat could have made UD whole instead of overpaying the riff-raff (Wayne Ellington, Tyler Johnson, Derrick Williams, James Johnson, and Dion Waiters) we picked off the street ... and I said so at the time. We literally had nothing to lose by paying UD. Instead they made UD sit on the end of the bench for another 7 seasons without ever coming close to recouping the money he gave up to be a "Heat Lifer".

That was the pay back. UD wasn't ready to leave and got to do whatever he wanted for 7 seasons. He left 14m on the table but then grabbed up 19m between 2016 and retirement playing a grand total of 65 games. My guy what are these takes you are dropping here.

[contract]

... I also think that he probably believed Jimmy would see how we treated UD and taken that route in 2026 but clearly not the case there.

Against my better judgement, I'm going to tackle this.

How do you think UD was treated? When Lebron and Bosh joined the Heat, UD had to accept a 50% cut from his previous salary, and turned down a 5 year $37 million offer from Denver to stay with the Heat.

When Wade left and the Heat had nothing to play for, the Heat could have made UD whole instead of overpaying the riff-raff (Wayne Ellington, Tyler Johnson, Derrick Williams, James Johnson, and Dion Waiters) we picked off the street ... and I said so at the time. We literally had nothing to lose by paying UD. Instead they made UD sit on the end of the bench for another 7 seasons without ever coming close to recouping the money he gave up to be a "Heat Lifer".

That was the pay back. UD wasn't ready to leave and got to do whatever he wanted for 7 seasons. He left 14m on the table but then grabbed up 19m between 2016 and retirement playing a grand total of 65 games. My guy what are these takes you are dropping here.

Assuming that you are correct, and assuming that UD made up the money he left on the table ... what lesson was Jimmy supposed to take from that? That he could sit on the end of the Heat bench earning the league minimum for as long as he liked?

[dshearn]

... I also think that he probably believed Jimmy would see how we treated UD and taken that route in 2026 but clearly not the case there.

Against my better judgement, I'm going to tackle this.

How do you think UD was treated? When Lebron and Bosh joined the Heat, UD had to accept a 50% cut from his previous salary, and turned down a 5 year $37 million offer from Denver to stay with the Heat.

When Wade left and the Heat had nothing to play for, the Heat could have made UD whole instead of overpaying the riff-raff (Wayne Ellington, Tyler Johnson, Derrick Williams, James Johnson, and Dion Waiters) we picked off the street ... and I said so at the time. We literally had nothing to lose by paying UD. Instead they made UD sit on the end of the bench for another 7 seasons without ever coming close to recouping the money he gave up to be a "Heat Lifer".

That was the pay back. UD wasn't ready to leave and got to do whatever he wanted for 7 seasons. He left 14m on the table but then grabbed up 19m between 2016 and retirement playing a grand total of 65 games. My guy what are these takes you are dropping here.

Lord knows he was around longer then any other team would have paid him...

There is the visible money, then there is the "other" money. I don't know anything, about anything...but I would suspect there is "other" money floating around out there that comes with being a south Florida icon...there almost has to be. Local endorsements, whatever...

I am sure being an ultra loyal Miami guy has some level of financial perks attached to it. Doesn't he own a couple of food places? I remember hearing about some, and some Starbucks or something? Anyway... I am sure his popularity, and loyalty has earned him money outside of just his NBA contract. I don't know how one would quantify what he owns from retiring from Mia, vs being a mercenary that played for multiple teams ...I don't know if you can make a definitive this vs that kind of list....but being a beloved icon to an area has to have some benefits.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Fat Erny is back!!!!

[jbsays]

Regarding Haslem... he took less money to stay with Heat. He could have done this for a variety of reasons. Maybe he wanted to win. Maybe he wanted to stay in Miami. Maybe he wanted to play with Lebron, Bosh, and Wade. Nobody forced him to sign the deal. He signed the deal and he never complained or lost his joy. He's the exception, not the norm.

I think his veteran presence the last 5-6 years was extremely beneficial to the team. Right now the only vets on the team are Jimmy Butler and Kevin Love. Not sure either of those guys are someone young players can look up to as a mentor.

[greg4012]

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Jimmys all over the place right now lol

Well I started to talk about his thot life in a previous post and how he missed games and practices because of thot issue. But I thought it was inappropriate. I figure some of this stuff was gonna start coming out eventually

NBA players never learn. They constantly getting trapped by these women. And what's crazy its the same women. You gotta one woman whose a baby mama to 2 or 3 NBA or NFL athletes. If you are a star athlete you either gotta do it like Lebron/Curry and go with childhood sweetheart. Or Wade go for a woman who has their own money and career. That 55k a month, probably just 10k of it goes to the kids and the rest she pockets.

The women are legitimate predators. It's wild

[dshearn]

Against my better judgement, I'm going to tackle this.

How do you think UD was treated? When Lebron and Bosh joined the Heat, UD had to accept a 50% cut from his previous salary, and turned down a 5 year $37 million offer from Denver to stay with the Heat.

When Wade left and the Heat had nothing to play for, the Heat could have made UD whole instead of overpaying the riff-raff (Wayne Ellington, Tyler Johnson, Derrick Williams, James Johnson, and Dion Waiters) we picked off the street ... and I said so at the time. We literally had nothing to lose by paying UD. Instead they made UD sit on the end of the bench for another 7 seasons without ever coming close to recouping the money he gave up to be a "Heat Lifer".

That was the pay back. UD wasn't ready to leave and got to do whatever he wanted for 7 seasons. He left 14m on the table but then grabbed up 19m between 2016 and retirement playing a grand total of 65 games. My guy what are these takes you are dropping here.

Assuming that you are correct, and assuming that UD made up the money he left on the table ... what lesson was Jimmy supposed to take from that? That he could sit on the end of the Heat bench earning the league minimum for as long as he liked?

I doubt I have ever told this story on this forum, but I was lucky enough to play with and against several NFL players before I moved to Florida. Shane Mathews, Terrel Buckley, Irving Spikes, Brett Farve all came out of the same area. Later in life, that got me the gig of being the AV guy for a couple different players events from their foundations. I got to rub elbows with lots of NFL dudes, both current at that time, and older dudes from the generations before.

A certain segment of guys that have mattered, really can't get over not mattering. Some way more than others. There is no price tag you can attach to being an important person in your circle. every guy I talked to loved that life. They loved being football players.

Might mean nothing to Jimmy, might have meant nothing to UD too....but giving the star treatment and letting a beloved player stay in that player environment long past their ability warrants is a hell of honor.

Maybe Jimmy is not about that, maybe Jimmy's time is way more valuable then sitting around on a minimum contract, maybe jimmy does not want to be in the NBA when he can no longer function...I have no idea...but offering Jimmy a UD rout has value to some people.

We don't have to wait all that long to see what post NBA Jimmy Butler is all about, it will be interesting to see how he goes for a guy that burns bridges behind him.

[greg4012]

If he’s going to keep taking us to the finals despite a terrible roster who cares

Those weren’t “terrible rosters”, especially the bubble team. You can keep saying that, but it’s not true. What they lacked in superstar talent was made up for with depth and chemistry.

The first year was the best overall team, that shouldn’t be the case. The 2nd finals team was absolutely a terrible roster and far worse than the 1st finals team to further prove my first sentence. It’s ok, players get old and can’t perform anymore, admitting the same is happening with Pat doesn’t ruin anything he’s done in the past but he has done a terrible job with this build and it’s not even debatable

TBH I think the #1 seed season was the best overall team.

[Flash4thewin]

Against my better judgement, I'm going to tackle this.

How do you think UD was treated? When Lebron and Bosh joined the Heat, UD had to accept a 50% cut from his previous salary, and turned down a 5 year $37 million offer from Denver to stay with the Heat.

When Wade left and the Heat had nothing to play for, the Heat could have made UD whole instead of overpaying the riff-raff (Wayne Ellington, Tyler Johnson, Derrick Williams, James Johnson, and Dion Waiters) we picked off the street ... and I said so at the time. We literally had nothing to lose by paying UD. Instead they made UD sit on the end of the bench for another 7 seasons without ever coming close to recouping the money he gave up to be a "Heat Lifer".

That was the pay back. UD wasn't ready to leave and got to do whatever he wanted for 7 seasons. He left 14m on the table but then grabbed up 19m between 2016 and retirement playing a grand total of 65 games. My guy what are these takes you are dropping here.

Assuming that you are correct, and assuming that UD made up the money he left on the table ... what lesson was Jimmy supposed to take from that? That he could sit on the end of the Heat bench earning the league minimum for as long as he liked?

I think originally Jimmy wanted a one year extension for 50+. So say the vet min is around 3.3 mil, he would need to be on the bench a good 15+ years to make it up plus interest like UD? Honestly im surprised the league didnt fine us for the UD stunt.

[greg4012]

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/38090024/nba-sends-memo-teams-addressing-damian-lilard-trade-request

Still waiting for the NBA to issue their memo on this like they did for Lillard...

[ZoStrong]

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The barista should immediately ask for a raise, lol

[jbsays]

Haslem took less money when he was 30 years old to remain with the Heat.
Didn't Jimmy Butler come to the Heat at 30 years old because the Heat were willing to pay him more than the 76ers?

At 35 Haslem was making $2.8 million. Halsem made $69 million his entire career. Butler made $45 million last year and at age 35 is making $48.7 million.

Not sure how this is a comparison...

I'm not sure how their is any comparison.

[AirP.]

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/38090024/nba-sends-memo-teams-addressing-damian-lilard-trade-request

Still waiting for the NBA to issue their memo on this like they did for Lillard...

Lillard's agent actually verified that he did tell teams to not trade for Lillard and I believe some Heat centric podcasts mentioned how stupid he was to do that, as of now it seems Butler nor his agent are verified to the NBA doing that, if they are verified to doing that, they'll get in trouble too. It's basically the same thing but said in a different way as in, he would definitely sign for 2 years for the max to a team that has his bird rights.

As of right now, looking at Miami's contract situation, Butler and his agent probably expect no matter how well he plays (outside of Miami winning a championship), he's not getting extended past the summer of 2026. It's the same situation Miami didn't add CP3 a month after acquiring Butler in 2019, CP3 was asked but said no to opting out of his player option so Miami could have max space to go after Giannis in 2021.