2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 5 - JIMMY BUTTWART EXTRAVAGANZA

[BlueHeat]

Is today the day fellas?

[al bondiga]

please stop this Compulsive BS guys

[al bondiga]

Get control of yourselfs...you can do it!

[SerialChiller]

[MettaWorldPanda]

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[MettaWorldPanda]

I can see the Bulls swapping out LaVine for Beal if it nets them 2 first rd picks. I can see LaVine finally ending up with the Pistons after they inquired about him last year. Bulls have been the betting favorite for Beal. The Bucks was more a media creation for Beal. Maybe the Bucks end up with LaVine in all this too as been reported recently.

[greg4012]

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So they opened the betting back up?

Feels like a womp womp if so

[greg4012]

I can see the Bulls swapping out LaVine for Beal if it nets them 2 first rd picks. I can see LaVine finally ending up with the Pistons after they inquired about him last year. Bulls have been the betting favorite for Beal. The Bucks was more a media creation for Beal. Maybe the Bucks end up with LaVine in all this too as been reported recently.

I was def suspicious of MIL wanting to move Middleton just to pair Dame with Beal in the backcourt. But damn I was hopeful it was lining up based on the *seemingly* false report that Beal was on board with going to MIL

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[MettaWorldPanda]

I can see the Bulls swapping out LaVine for Beal if it nets them 2 first rd picks. I can see LaVine finally ending up with the Pistons after they inquired about him last year. Bulls have been the betting favorite for Beal. The Bucks was more a media creation for Beal. Maybe the Bucks end up with LaVine in all this too as been reported recently.

I was def suspicious of MIL wanting to move Middleton just to pair Dame with Beal in the backcourt. But damn I was hopeful it was lining up based on the *seemingly* false report that Beal was on board with going to MIL

LaVine actually makes a lot more sense for the Bucks considering the contracts they have to move and LaVine making the less amount over Beal. Bucks would have had to pull a 4 for 1 in order to meet the stipulations in matching Beal’s contract. If Bulls get compensated by the Suns for Beal then moving LaVine to the Bucks becomes simpler for all parties. Sure hope we can get Lonzo Ball somewhere in this deal.

[Rapaz]

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[Heat3]

What about Lavine/Giddy or Ayo or Jevon Carter plus 1.pick (if it's Giddy no picks), Beal to Chicago plus 2 picks or 3.and Butler to the Suns..

Giddy or Ayo
Herro
LaVine
Bam
Ware

A pass first PG (Giddy) or Jrue Holiday lite (Ayo) with Tyler and Lavine while having Bam in the dunkers spot and Ware on rolls/pop out 3s is way better than having guys like Middleton/Bruce Brown or whatever else proposed. How big a difference is it between Fox and LaVine? Yes Fox is better but he will probably be making more with his extension.

If I were the Suns I would be trading for Lavine and Vuc or blowing it up over trying to get Butler.

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Dude, Beal wants to stay in PHX. He won't go to cold Chicago.

If a team is openly hating on you why would he want to stay?,I think the NBA will step in behind the scenes if nothing is done and make promises of a top 10 pick or picks (not the first time they have rigged the lottery) and force both the Heat and Beals hand no way they allow this to go on with a name as big as Jimmy this is not a Jae Crowder/Tucker level player. Both the Beal and Jimmy situations are a terrible look imo.

Beal could literally burn money to warm himself in Chicago to stay cool and still be living like a king.

It’s no different than Jimmy situation but from the reverse. He signed a contract and is holding them to it. Why should he have to pick up his life because the team want someone else?

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This was from a few weeks back. Ties to Donavan and Beal with Jordan brand playing in big city of Chicago and proximity to home town St Louis all sound like a recipe for Beal to agree.

[greg4012]

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Rim rate numbers on offense are egregious. I expect some improvement with Ware getting more minutes and his vertical spacing and Bam being able to crash more off-action. But, as we know, it's consistently been problem #1 for Miami's offense post Dragic/Wade. The offense will become exponentially healthier if Miami ever gets a lead perimeter ballhandler that can create advantage with driving pressure.

Would be curious to know Miami's rim rate numbers from the past few seasons. Surely better than this season due to Jimmy--but he gets in the paint methodically, not in a way that tilts defense to create advantage.

On the defensive side, a staple of Spo's D has been keeping teams out of the paint. I still believe that's the way to go, but with Ware Miami might trend towards some more funneling to the rim protector. Def need to get that Rim% down either way.

[greg4012]

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I love the boogeyman!

[greg4012]

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Dude, Beal wants to stay in PHX. He won't go to cold Chicago.

If a team is openly hating on you why would he want to stay?,I think the NBA will step in behind the scenes if nothing is done and make promises of a top 10 pick or picks (not the first time they have rigged the lottery) and force both the Heat and Beals hand no way they allow this to go on with a name as big as Jimmy this is not a Jae Crowder/Tucker level player. Both the Beal and Jimmy situations are a terrible look imo.

Beal could literally burn money to warm himself in Chicago to stay cool and still be living like a king.

It’s no different than Jimmy situation but from the reverse. He signed a contract and is holding them to it. Why should he have to pick up his life because the team want someone else?

bc we want it too!

[Rapaz]

I love the boogeyman!

Pat is Phoenix’s Joe Cronin.

[Daffy]

Ware came to us at the perfect time. Gives us something extra to look forward to instead of all this Jimmy Butler crap.

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Just another reason zero chance Beal comes here. Zero