2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2

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[DayofMourning]

Trade Butler to the Rox for Jabari, Reed and contracts. Put Bam in a cryochamber for the rest of the season. Lose the rest of our games. Draft Dylan Harper. Easy.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[RexBoyWonder]

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Who TF is this

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Who TF is this

Suns guy but also a guy who’s plugged in with the players around the league, like KD and thems group before KD was ever a Sun or Net

[RexBoyWonder]

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Who TF is this

Suns guy but also a guy who’s plugged in with the players around the league, like KD and thems group before KD was ever a Sun or Net

Oh well.

If Jimmy really wants to go, I wont' shed tears over him.

It was an amazing run while it lasted.

Recoup the best assets we can for the future and let's build the next Heat contender.

Every era has to end at some point.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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LET DANNY AINGE COOK!!

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Who TF is this

Suns guy but also a guy who’s plugged in with the players around the league, like KD and thems group before KD was ever a Sun or Net

Oh well.

If Jimmy really wants to go, I wont' shed tears over him.

It was an amazing run while it lasted.

Recoup the best assets we can for the future and let's build the next Heat contender.

Every era has to end at some point.

We need to send Pat Riley out the door with him tbh

[3ammy3uck3ts]

If suns want to better their chances they need to try and find another 1st somewhere for Dunn or something or look at trading some of their role players for additional assets.

[Beenie]

Suns have nothing to offer

Story seems like a nothing burrito

[AirP.]

Suns have nothing to offer

Story seems like a nothing burrito

They do have a 2031 st they can offer which might be the best 1st round pick Miami could get if they're looking at the potential of a top of the draft 1st (since they'll no longer have KD or Butler at that point), that might end up being the best chance at drafting Miami's next franchise player or a great pick to add to a package to get your next big player.

People keep saying X amount of first, which is fine, sometimes you find a diamond in the rough, but I would expect a possible top 3-5 pick would be much better than 2 late lottery picks if you're looking to try to find your next top tier player.

On Beal, maybe he'd be ok being rerouted to a 3rd team where he is back to being the 1st or 2nd option in a place he wants to be at.

Maybe the Lakers will initiate talks with Miami. JJ played with Butler so he understands what he can and can't do and how to deal with him.

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[AirP.]

The Miami Heat are “seriously listening” to trade offers for Butler, The Athletic’s David Aldridge reported earlier this week. For now, the suitors are unclear. One suspected destination in particular has been tossed around in the public sphere: Phoenix. Yet, any hope for Butler could die with just one word from Bradley Beal.

Spoiler:

At the very least, the Heat are indeed seriously listening for the first time to trade offers for Butler, league sources said. Nothing has approached a serious offer yet, but even being willing to listen marks a change in where the team was when Butler almost willed them to a championship in 2023, before Miami was overwhelmed by Nikola Jokić and the Denver Nuggets in five games.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5992364/2024/12/14/jimmy-butler-heat-nba-trade-rumors/

But for argument’s sake, let’s switch to a world where the Heat and Suns agree to a Beal-for-Butler swap (which would require Miami unloading more money onto a third team and could demand Phoenix including its 2031 first-round pick). That still may not be enough to get a trade done.

The Heat are notoriously against giving out no-trade clauses. James wanted one but couldn’t get it. Neither could Butler. Beal’s would carry over with him to Miami, just as it did to Phoenix in the move from D.C.

So Butler, who is sneakily having his most-efficient season ever, may not be able to get to Phoenix, though someone could take a swing at the 35-year-old, even if trading a $48.8 million salary in-season is increasingly difficult in today’s NBA.

Maybe the Denver Nuggets, who are willing to part with Michael Porter Jr., as The Athletic’s Sam Amick and Tony Jones recently reported, could build a trade around Porter, Zeke Nnaji and Dario Šarić. Maybe the Chicago Bulls are feeling nostalgic. Maybe the Golden State Warriors, after trading for Dennis Schröder, are still feeling frisky with Andrew Wiggins’ contract and other add-ons. Maybe there’s a mystery team out there ready to take a swing.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6008111/2024/12/20/jimmy-butler-trade-rumors-nba-trends/

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[greg4012]

His playing minutes in the playoffs is low as well.

I wonder why...

Means his mileage is not that high. You missed out the next thing I said. So even he is the same age as Kevin Love, he looks more energetic and younger. Be logical sometimes.

How am I lacking in logic? If there is an offer on the table to simply turn Kevin Love into Vuc, that sounds good to me. I don't think that offer exists.

Whether it does or not, I know Vuc is mostly a regular season warrior (like most offense-only centers) whose style of play will be marginalized in playoff bball. It's not pure coincidence that he's never made it beyond 5 games into the playoffs in his career. Hence adding context as to part of the reason why his playing minutes in the playoffs are so low.

And I believe Love is actually 2 years older.

[Beenie]

Suns have nothing to offer

Story seems like a nothing burrito

They do have a 2031 st they can offer which might be the best 1st round pick Miami could get if they're looking at the potential of a top of the draft 1st (since they'll no longer have KD or Butler at that point), that might end up being the best chance at drafting Miami's next franchise player or a great pick to add to a package to get your next big player.

People keep saying X amount of first, which is fine, sometimes you find a diamond in the rough, but I would expect a possible top 3-5 pick would be much better than 2 late lottery picks if you're looking to try to find your next top tier player.

On Beal, maybe he'd be ok being rerouted to a 3rd team where he is back to being the 1st or 2nd option in a place he wants to be at.

Maybe the Lakers will initiate talks with Miami. JJ played with Butler so he understands what he can and can't do and how to deal with him.

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It's not nothing...

But not by much.

I'd expect them to hang up on that offer

[Beenie]

Love is the modern UD.

He's the locker room vet that reinforces their team culture.

Likely not moving him.

[AirP.]

Suns have nothing to offer

Story seems like a nothing burrito

Spoiler:

They do have a 2031 st they can offer which might be the best 1st round pick Miami could get if they're looking at the potential of a top of the draft 1st (since they'll no longer have KD or Butler at that point), that might end up being the best chance at drafting Miami's next franchise player or a great pick to add to a package to get your next big player.

People keep saying X amount of first, which is fine, sometimes you find a diamond in the rough, but I would expect a possible top 3-5 pick would be much better than 2 late lottery picks if you're looking to try to find your next top tier player.

On Beal, maybe he'd be ok being rerouted to a 3rd team where he is back to being the 1st or 2nd option in a place he wants to be at.

Maybe the Lakers will initiate talks with Miami. JJ played with Butler so he understands what he can and can't do and how to deal with him.

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It's not nothing...

But not by much.

I'd expect them to hang up on that offer

A possible near the top of the draft pick is not much? There are people on this board willing to throw away a whole season for a shot at that.

[Beenie]

Spoiler:

They do have a 2031 st they can offer which might be the best 1st round pick Miami could get if they're looking at the potential of a top of the draft 1st (since they'll no longer have KD or Butler at that point), that might end up being the best chance at drafting Miami's next franchise player or a great pick to add to a package to get your next big player.

People keep saying X amount of first, which is fine, sometimes you find a diamond in the rough, but I would expect a possible top 3-5 pick would be much better than 2 late lottery picks if you're looking to try to find your next top tier player.

On Beal, maybe he'd be ok being rerouted to a 3rd team where he is back to being the 1st or 2nd option in a place he wants to be at.

Maybe the Lakers will initiate talks with Miami. JJ played with Butler so he understands what he can and can't do and how to deal with him.

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It's not nothing...

But not by much.

I'd expect them to hang up on that offer

A possible near the top of the draft pick is not much? There are people on this board willing to throw away a whole season for a shot at that.

There's no precedent that I can recall of Riley trading for a future pick 6 years down the line much less a FFRer 1 year down the line

[AirP.]

It's not nothing...

But not by much.

I'd expect them to hang up on that offer

A possible near the top of the draft pick is not much? There are people on this board willing to throw away a whole season for a shot at that.

There's no precedent that I can recall of Riley trading for a future pick 6 years down the line much less a FFRer 1 year down the line

I don't recall a time in Riley's tenure of him basically sitting back using draft picks vs making pretty big moves to try to win it all. Nothing he's done since signing Butler has been bold, it's all been safe moves a small market team would do. I think Riley's ways have somewhat changed.