2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2

[al bondiga]

Suns have nothing to offer

Story seems like a nothing burrito

I think if
The suns have good future Multiple picks
Jb is gone

[twix2500]

A possible near the top of the draft pick is not much? There are people on this board willing to throw away a whole season for a shot at that.

There's no precedent that I can recall of Riley trading for a future pick 6 years down the line much less a FFRer 1 year down the line

I don't recall a time in Riley's tenure of him basically sitting back using draft picks vs making pretty big moves to try to win it all. Nothing he's done since signing Butler has been bold, it's all been safe moves a small market team would do. I think Riley's ways have somewhat changed.

Its because you have three big contracts. He has never kept a core three this long, all his draft picks were mostly used to get his core. All the new restrictions. 3 1/2 of Mashburn, Hardaway and Zo, 2 1/2 of Shaq, Wade and Walker and 4 yrs of Wade, Bron and Bosh

[AirP.]

There's no precedent that I can recall of Riley trading for a future pick 6 years down the line much less a FFRer 1 year down the line

I don't recall a time in Riley's tenure of him basically sitting back using draft picks vs making pretty big moves to try to win it all. Nothing he's done since signing Butler has been bold, it's all been safe moves a small market team would do. I think Riley's ways have somewhat changed.

Its because you have three big contracts. He has never kept a core three this long, all his draft picks were mostly used to get his core. All the new restrictions. 3 1/2 of Mashburn, Hardaway and Zo, 2 1/2 of Shaq, Wade and Walker and 4 yrs of Wade, Bron and Bosh

Right, I think a younger Riley would have handled this situation differently in this Butler era.

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[twix2500]

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"Conversations" have been happening in regards to his contract. Rather to trade him or get a done agreed apon should be done before christmas.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Thunder would win the next 2 championships

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Thunder would win the next 2 championships

Spurs also make a ton of sense. I mentioned them as a dark horse. They have great pics and players to get something done.

[Beenie]

Out of all these teams, Castle and Sheppard are the only players that can be offered that move the needle.

That said, Jimmy a lifer

[twix2500]

Out of all these teams, Castle and Sheppard are the only players that can be offered that move the needle.

That said, Jimmy a lifer

Are yall changing the definition of move the needle? Too many definition changes for the sake of sounding catchy

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[Beenie]

Out of all these teams, Castle and Sheppard are the only players that can be offered that move the needle.

That said, Jimmy a lifer

Are yall changing the definition of move the needle? Too many definition changes for the sake of sounding catchy

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[Dc__20]

Jimmy is 35. If he's traded it's not going to be a Donovan Mitchell package so let's just manage expectations

[twix2500]

Out of all these teams, Castle and Sheppard are the only players that can be offered that move the needle.

That said, Jimmy a lifer

Are yall changing the definition of move the needle? Too many definition changes for the sake of sounding catchy

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Edit: pique my interest

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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You can’t bench them, it’ll plummet any trade value they have

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I don’t want it to end

[3ballbomber]

You guys still don't get it? You don't trade Jimmy and end up with the Cameron Johnsons or John Collins of the world.

Those guys are only valuable to support Jimmy, they're worthless to us if he's not here. we'll have a team of supporting players with no real star they can supporting. That's a recipe for a permanent play-in team.

You either get enough high quality picks, or you get a young player/s with REAL upside to become a great starter, or you just don't move Jimmy.

I'd trade for Lavine (Rozier + Duncan) and extend Jimmy way before I sell off Jimmy for random role players.

Again, if fans made decisions for this organisation we’d be f*cked every season. Just catching up, reading through pages here made my eyes bleed.

Riles will not just merely throw away the player that’s helped us stay competitive. We either maximise a worthy return or we keep him. Look how many trade rumours Herro was in & he’s still here. We don’t just trade for sh*t. Herro in turn has developed wonderfully. I trust in our FO even through all the nonsense lounge room GM’s post on the regular.

[contract]

You guys still don't get it? You don't trade Jimmy and end up with the Cameron Johnsons or John Collins of the world.

Those guys are only valuable to support Jimmy, they're worthless to us if he's not here. we'll have a team of supporting players with no real star they can supporting. That's a recipe for a permanent play-in team.

You either get enough high quality picks, or you get a young player/s with REAL upside to become a great starter, or you just don't move Jimmy.

I'd trade for Lavine (Rozier + Duncan) and extend Jimmy way before I sell off Jimmy for random role players.

Again, if fans made decisions for this organisation we’d be f*cked every season. Just catching up, reading through pages here made my eyes bleed.

Riles will not just merely throw away the player that’s helped us stay competitive. We either maximise a worthy return or we keep him. Look how many trade rumours Herro was in & he’s still here. We don’t just trade for sh*t. Herro in turn has developed wonderfully. I trust in our FO even through all the nonsense lounge room GM’s post on the regular.

Herro has not developed wonderully. Herro is the same Herro he's always been. Still dominating the ball. Still taking way more shots that he should. He's averaging 6 more FG attempts per game than our best player.

[3ballbomber]

You guys still don't get it? You don't trade Jimmy and end up with the Cameron Johnsons or John Collins of the world.

Those guys are only valuable to support Jimmy, they're worthless to us if he's not here. we'll have a team of supporting players with no real star they can supporting. That's a recipe for a permanent play-in team.

You either get enough high quality picks, or you get a young player/s with REAL upside to become a great starter, or you just don't move Jimmy.

I'd trade for Lavine (Rozier + Duncan) and extend Jimmy way before I sell off Jimmy for random role players.

Again, if fans made decisions for this organisation we’d be f*cked every season. Just catching up, reading through pages here made my eyes bleed.

Riles will not just merely throw away the player that’s helped us stay competitive. We either maximise a worthy return or we keep him. Look how many trade rumours Herro was in & he’s still here. We don’t just trade for sh*t. Herro in turn has developed wonderfully. I trust in our FO even through all the nonsense lounge room GM’s post on the regular.

Herro has not developed wonderully. Herro is the same Herro he's always been. Still dominating the ball. Still taking way more shots that he should. He's averaging 6 more FG attempts per game than our best player.

I hella beg to differ. His decision making, passing, driving, finishing, shot choice, defence etc. have significantly improved. His numbers across the board suggests this. Reid & Crotty say it all the time just how much growth his shown. Herro has always been an extremely skilled player. Fans were expecting too much frm him too early to match Jimmy’s window & our playoff runs. Only a player such as Wade cld achieve such high standards early. Herro’s showing growth. Still a long season but a 4pt ave jump tells you about his development. We’d simply struggle this season w/out him esp w/ Jimmy’s injuries. Imagine just depending on Bam

[Hallstar]

You guys still don't get it? You don't trade Jimmy and end up with the Cameron Johnsons or John Collins of the world.

Those guys are only valuable to support Jimmy, they're worthless to us if he's not here. we'll have a team of supporting players with no real star they can supporting. That's a recipe for a permanent play-in team.

You either get enough high quality picks, or you get a young player/s with REAL upside to become a great starter, or you just don't move Jimmy.

I'd trade for Lavine (Rozier + Duncan) and extend Jimmy way before I sell off Jimmy for random role players.

Again, if fans made decisions for this organisation we’d be f*cked every season. Just catching up, reading through pages here made my eyes bleed.

Riles will not just merely throw away the player that’s helped us stay competitive. We either maximise a worthy return or we keep him. Look how many trade rumours Herro was in & he’s still here. We don’t just trade for sh*t. Herro in turn has developed wonderfully. I trust in our FO even through all the nonsense lounge room GM’s post on the regular.

Herro has not developed wonderully. Herro is the same Herro he's always been. Still dominating the ball. Still taking way more shots that he should. He's averaging 6 more FG attempts per game than our best player.

If this was true Jimmy would've gotten his extension with no conversation.

[RexBoyWonder]

Am I crazy wanting to go after Zack Lavine?

He's overpaid buy somehow also became underrated. He's been an efficient 3 level scorer for years now.

His trade value seems minimal - due to contract not preformance.

If he's cheap enough to get for Duncan + Rozier - why not take the gamble?

You get a core of 2 explosive scorers in Herro and Lavine, and 2 high level 2 way players in Bam and Jimmy. Jimmy could really pick his spots, and Bam could focus on efficiency and not volume.

The fifth starter should probably a defender blue collar type like Highsmith, or a DFS if we can get him.

I rather go all in then trade Jimmy for chit offers, Lavine's contract won't prevent us getting a better star in free agency - THERE ARE NO REAL STARS HITTING FREE AGENCY ANYMORE.