2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

HeatingUp3 · Post #661 » by **HeatingUp3** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:18 pm

Lol Riley couse the media to belive he takes Langford so the Celtics will think Herro is there to grab at 14th.
Imagine if Langford becomes un allstar hahaha
Poor draft. I'd prefered to draft PJ. We would've i guess if not for the Hornets.
But HEY! Bowman and King are still there! We have to grab those.

Chalm Down · Post #662 » by **Chalm Down** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:20 pm

Read on Twitter

Bhut Jolokia · Post #663 » by **Bhut Jolokia** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:22 pm

Herro was definitely not a bad pick. I had him going #14 to Celtics, but the Heat could use him too. Okpala with the early 2nd round pick was a great trade. He could have probably been drafted earlier, it’s like we got 2 first round picks with this draft.

Dr_Heat · Post #664 » by **Dr_Heat** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:26 pm

How much did it cost us not to keep Bol Bol ? I know we got a future 2nd rounder and some cash considerations but how money much was it ?

A future 2nd rounder that could just be a “ role “ player instead of a top 10 guy that no one knows if he will last. I would of rather rolled the dice with Bol Bol

MartyConlonJr · Post #665 » by **MartyConlonJr** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:28 pm

I didn't know about Herro but I am at least presently surprised:
- quick and high release may make up for the arms
- Hella shot. Looked clutch
- Even though it was only warmups, he did do some very nice dunks in one of the videos I saw. Two hands, tomahawks etc. Not un-athletic (won't call him athletic)
- his advanced defensive stats look good at first glance.
- No other freshman guard that scored 10 or more ppg had a better DBPM (+3.3) than him. Those metrics may seem a bit cherry picked, but I am looking for two way players.

Does anyone that knows his game think he is a good defender?

greg4012 · Post #666 » by **greg4012** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:33 pm

Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:
At his best, Herro is going to be a catch and shoot roleplayer. Players that can shoot will always make an NBA roster.

Dude just showed up as a freshman at Kentucky and produced in the 98th percentile as a pick and roll ballhandler in all of college bball and you're here saying his best case scenario is to just be a catch and shoot role player? C'mon now guys.

FYI Herro was more productive as a P&R ballhandler than Langford (who was also great--90th percentile), NAW, KPJ, and MANY of the perimeter players chosen before him. P&R is literally one of the foundational elements of NBA offense. That is SUPER PROMISING.

twix2500 · Post #667 » by **twix2500** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:34 pm

Tales of the Tape

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batterybro42 · Post #668 » by **batterybro42** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:39 pm

kobewade11 wrote:Devin Booker? Absolutely Not. He's a 6'5 Mike Miller

Mike Miller didn’t have the PNR game, which really is a big part of being a proficient scorer in this league. Reddick never had that, Ellington didn’t have that. This guy can shoot like those players can, and is amazing at the line, but he has true scoring traits in his game, and that’s what makes him interesting. He can actually run the break and do more than pull up. This threat coupled with his shooting should translate to scoring. Stop thinking him as a wing, think of him as a 1 that doesn’t run the offense, or guard the big guard. To work he needs a SF and PG that can handle those matchups. Ala Winslow and JRich

RexBoyWonder · Post #669 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:41 pm

I think i got roofied last night

Mos_Heat · Post #670 » by **Mos_Heat** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:41 pm

greg4012 wrote:
Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:
At his best, Herro is going to be a catch and shoot roleplayer. Players that can shoot will always make an NBA roster.

Dude just showed up as a freshman at Kentucky and produced in the 98th percentile as a pick and roll ballhandler in all of college bball and you're here saying his best case scenario is to just be a catch and shoot role player? C'mon now guys.

FYI Herro was more productive as a P&R ballhandler than Langford (who was also great--90th percentile), NAW, KPJ, and MANY of the perimeter players chosen before him. P&R is literally one of the foundational elements of NBA offense. That is SUPER PROMISING.

52 possessions

RexBoyWonder · Post #671 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:41 pm

Did we get Sekou yet?

twix2500 · Post #672 » by **twix2500** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:43 pm

twix2500 wrote:Tales of the Tape

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Gawd dam the more I look at tapes of Kapono and Herro, they are the same guy.

RexBoyWonder · Post #673 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:44 pm

I think KPJ was available for us...right?

All i remember is that we got Bol Bol...**** yea! at least we got a steal guys! High upside in da house!

batterybro42 · Post #674 » by **batterybro42** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:45 pm

MartyConlonJr wrote:I didn't know about Herro but I am at least presently surprised:
- quick and high release may make up for the arms
- Hella shot. Looked clutch
- Even though it was only warmups, he did do some very nice dunks in one of the videos I saw. Two hands, tomahawks etc. Not un-athletic (won't call him athletic)
- his advanced defensive stats look good at first glance.
- No other freshman guard that scored 10 or more ppg had a better DBPM (+3.3) than him. Those metrics may seem a bit cherry picked, but I am looking for two way players.

Does anyone that knows his game think he is a good defender?

I think against 1s he has the tenacity and toughness as well as competent athleticism to be a good defender. His defense will rely on him knowing the rotations very well, and being smart out there. He’s not a minus athlete, nor is he a plus one. He’s a decent athlete, and he plays bigger than he really is on the floor. He has an agility and maneuverability that I’m not used to seeing with guys who shoot like him. I’ve really only seen it from Booker, but to compare Tyler is the better defender, but hey his arms are shorter I guess that 2 inch standing reach is enough for everybody to get up in arms no pun intended.

Where he makes up for his lack of length is his ability to shoot the ball very quickly, with tremendous balance, and when he drives he can finish extended away from his body. In certain situations his driving ability reminds me of Dragic in someway where he is able to score over bigger defenders by contorting his body and finishing outside his frame.

greg4012 · Post #675 » by **greg4012** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:46 pm

Mos_Heat wrote:
greg4012 wrote:
Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:
At his best, Herro is going to be a catch and shoot roleplayer. Players that can shoot will always make an NBA roster.

Dude just showed up as a freshman at Kentucky and produced in the 98th percentile as a pick and roll ballhandler in all of college bball and you're here saying his best case scenario is to just be a catch and shoot role player? C'mon now guys.

FYI Herro was more productive as a P&R ballhandler than Langford (who was also great--90th percentile), NAW, KPJ, and MANY of the perimeter players chosen before him. P&R is literally one of the foundational elements of NBA offense. That is SUPER PROMISING.

52 possessions

So should it be completely ignored?

twix2500 · Post #676 » by **twix2500** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:47 pm

Watch on YouTube

We drafted Kapono everyone

batterybro42 · Post #677 » by **batterybro42** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:49 pm

greg4012 wrote:
Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:
At his best, Herro is going to be a catch and shoot roleplayer. Players that can shoot will always make an NBA roster.

Dude just showed up as a freshman at Kentucky and produced in the 98th percentile as a pick and roll ballhandler in all of college bball and you're here saying his best case scenario is to just be a catch and shoot role player? C'mon now guys.

FYI Herro was more productive as a P&R ballhandler than Langford (who was also great--90th percentile), NAW, KPJ, and MANY of the perimeter players chosen before him. P&R is literally one of the foundational elements of NBA offense. That is SUPER PROMISING.

These guys can’t be reasoned with he’s just the second coming of Jason Kapano or insert white guy to them, out for blood. Spoiled fans who weren’t here before the big 3 era, and don’t appreciate team building or the long approach, but constantly complain about the bad contracts we took to win now, and can’t process an approach to waiting until 2021 and being a huge market player as a response.

Riley is doing the right things and don’t come back on the train when this thing gets exciting in 24 months

twix2500 · Post #678 » by **twix2500** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:50 pm

Look at the sleeves and arms. So Tyler Herro like

HeatIn5 · Post #679 » by **HeatIn5** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:51 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:Did we get Sekou yet?

Nope but we got Bol Bol

Phuck yea!

Mos_Heat · Post #680 » by **Mos_Heat** » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:52 pm

greg4012 wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:
greg4012 wrote:
Dude just showed up as a freshman at Kentucky and produced in the 98th percentile as a pick and roll ballhandler in all of college bball and you're here saying his best case scenario is to just be a catch and shoot role player? C'mon now guys.

FYI Herro was more productive as a P&R ballhandler than Langford (who was also great--90th percentile), NAW, KPJ, and MANY of the perimeter players chosen before him. P&R is literally one of the foundational elements of NBA offense. That is SUPER PROMISING.

52 possessions

So should it be completely ignored?

No, but it shouldn't be presented like he's

more productive as a P&R ballhandler than Langford (who was also great--90th percentile), NAW, KPJ, and MANY of the perimeter players chosen before him