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**NBA Draft Discussion 2025**

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Who's the guard pick if all available at 20?

Poll ended at Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:35 pm

Jase Richardson
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9%
Nolan Traore
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17%
Walter Clayton Jr
14
61%
Ben Saraf
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13%
 
Total votes: 23

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Post#661 » by Hallstar » Tue May 13, 2025 8:03 pm

twix2500 wrote:*Twix Players to watch

Cedric Coward 6'6 Swing player from Washington State, 21 yrs old senior
Deadly shooter and post up player
2024-25 stats
17.7 Pts, 7 rbs, 3.7 ast 40 3p%, 83.9 Ft%, 1.7 BLKS
2023-24 stats
15.4 pts, 6.7 rbs, 1.7 st, 38.3 3p%, 89.5 ft%, 1 stls

NBA Combine Measurements 6.'5.25 w/out shoes, 213 lbs, 7'2.25 wingspan



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Cedric Coward, G, Washington State
Height: 6-6 • Weight: 215 • Class: Senior • Age: 21

Summary: Coward has gone from a Division III player to a potential first-round pick in just a few years behind his rapid development into a prospect with a valued 3-and-D skill-set. But he brings even higher upside thanks to his passing vision.

Comparisons: Kawhi Leonard, Dorian Finney-Smith

Strengths
Athleticism: Coward has ideal size for a wing with broad shoulders and long arms. Though he needs to add muscle, he has a frame to grow into. And he plays strong with his ability to absorb contact, fight through screens, and crash the boards at an elite level for his size.

Shooting: Made 38.8% of his 3s in three Division I college seasons, which includes 40.6% on catch-and-shoot 3s. Most of his attempts come off of basic spot-ups, but he shows smooth footwork off movement, plus flashes touch as a midrange scorer which hints at off-the-dribble 3-point shooting upside.

Scouting report from Yahoo

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/lebron-james-rest-nba-world-153548617.html

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Interior scoring: Coward played in the post a lot in college, where he displayed his dexterity scoring against contact. These skills translate when he’s attacking from the perimeter too, whether he’s driving by a closeout or looking for cutting chances.

Basketball IQ: He plays within himself. He knows his role. He’ll relocate off-ball, look for cutting chances, and do all the little things that satisfy a head coach.

Passing: He puts great zip on passes and delivers an accurate ball, whether it’s cross-court kickouts or entry passes into a big man with positioning under the rim. He may not end up a primary creator, but at a minimum he looks like a reliable connective piece who can run some secondary actions too.

Defense: Super versatile defender with the lateral quickness to stay in front of guards plus the length and toughness to handle some bigger wings. His great length and energetic approach mean his hands alter shots and get in the passing lanes on a frequent basis.


Concerns
Experience level: His season ended after six games because of a shoulder injury that he suffered at practice, which included an articular cartilage tear, a jagged rotator cuff, and a partially torn labrum. Which means there’s not much of a sample of him facing high-level competition.

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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2025** 

Post#662 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue May 13, 2025 8:14 pm

greg4012 wrote:
twix2500 wrote:*Twix Players to watch

Cedric Coward 6'6 Swing player from Washington State, 21 yrs old senior
Deadly shooter and post up player
2024-25 stats
17.7 Pts, 7 rbs, 3.7 ast 40 3p%, 83.9 Ft%, 1.7 BLKS
2023-24 stats
15.4 pts, 6.7 rbs, 1.7 st, 38.3 3p%, 89.5 ft%, 1 stls

NBA Combine Measurements 6.'5.25 w/out shoes, 213 lbs, 7'2.25 wingspan



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Cedric Coward, G, Washington State
Height: 6-6 • Weight: 215 • Class: Senior • Age: 21

Summary: Coward has gone from a Division III player to a potential first-round pick in just a few years behind his rapid development into a prospect with a valued 3-and-D skill-set. But he brings even higher upside thanks to his passing vision.

Comparisons: Kawhi Leonard, Dorian Finney-Smith

Strengths
Athleticism: Coward has ideal size for a wing with broad shoulders and long arms. Though he needs to add muscle, he has a frame to grow into. And he plays strong with his ability to absorb contact, fight through screens, and crash the boards at an elite level for his size.

Shooting: Made 38.8% of his 3s in three Division I college seasons, which includes 40.6% on catch-and-shoot 3s. Most of his attempts come off of basic spot-ups, but he shows smooth footwork off movement, plus flashes touch as a midrange scorer which hints at off-the-dribble 3-point shooting upside.

Scouting report from Yahoo

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/lebron-james-rest-nba-world-153548617.html

Spoiler:
Interior scoring: Coward played in the post a lot in college, where he displayed his dexterity scoring against contact. These skills translate when he’s attacking from the perimeter too, whether he’s driving by a closeout or looking for cutting chances.

Basketball IQ: He plays within himself. He knows his role. He’ll relocate off-ball, look for cutting chances, and do all the little things that satisfy a head coach.

Passing: He puts great zip on passes and delivers an accurate ball, whether it’s cross-court kickouts or entry passes into a big man with positioning under the rim. He may not end up a primary creator, but at a minimum he looks like a reliable connective piece who can run some secondary actions too.

Defense: Super versatile defender with the lateral quickness to stay in front of guards plus the length and toughness to handle some bigger wings. His great length and energetic approach mean his hands alter shots and get in the passing lanes on a frequent basis.


Concerns
Experience level: His season ended after six games because of a shoulder injury that he suffered at practice, which included an articular cartilage tear, a jagged rotator cuff, and a partially torn labrum. Which means there’s not much of a sample of him facing high-level competition.


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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2025** 

Post#663 » by twix2500 » Tue May 13, 2025 8:33 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:
greg4012 wrote:
twix2500 wrote:*Twix Players to watch

Cedric Coward 6'6 Swing player from Washington State, 21 yrs old senior
Deadly shooter and post up player
2024-25 stats
17.7 Pts, 7 rbs, 3.7 ast 40 3p%, 83.9 Ft%, 1.7 BLKS
2023-24 stats
15.4 pts, 6.7 rbs, 1.7 st, 38.3 3p%, 89.5 ft%, 1 stls

NBA Combine Measurements 6.'5.25 w/out shoes, 213 lbs, 7'2.25 wingspan

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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2025** 

Post#664 » by greg4012 » Tue May 13, 2025 8:42 pm

Won't be surprised if Coward gets drafted before Miami's pick at 20.

Gotta be one of the more successful draft combines ever given how he was barely on the radar before. He has the game to back it up.

Love when these players emerge that the "consensus" draft media coverage completely miss.
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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2025** 

Post#665 » by twix2500 » Tue May 13, 2025 8:57 pm

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Post#666 » by twix2500 » Tue May 13, 2025 8:58 pm

greg4012 wrote:Won't be surprised if Coward gets drafted before Miami's pick at 20.

Gotta be one of the more successful draft combines ever given how he was barely on the radar before. He has the game to back it up.

Love when these players emerge that the "consensus" draft media coverage completely miss.



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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2025** 

Post#667 » by twix2500 » Tue May 13, 2025 9:07 pm

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Post#668 » by twix2500 » Tue May 13, 2025 9:35 pm

twix2500 wrote:Javon Small Combo Guard 6'3 chiseled senior out of West Virginia
2024-25 stats
18.6 pts, 4.1 rbs, 5.6 ast, 35.3 3p%, 88.0 ft%, .5 stls
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15.1 pts, 4.7 rbs, 4.1 ast, 37.4 3.%, 86.6 ft%, 1.0 stls

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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2025** 

Post#669 » by twix2500 » Tue May 13, 2025 9:47 pm

starting to lean forward to Tre Johnson as the best prospect or 2nd best prospect in this draft.
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Post#670 » by twix2500 » Tue May 13, 2025 10:04 pm

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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2025** 

Post#671 » by lastb1ckman » Tue May 13, 2025 11:29 pm

Jase Richardson is tiny, only 6.0" barefoot. He might fall to us afterall. Got that Rozier build lol
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Post#672 » by greg4012 » Wed May 14, 2025 12:08 am

twix2500 wrote:starting to lean forward to Tre Johnson as the best prospect or 2nd best prospect in this draft.


Always thought any Tre slander was silly. Best shooter in the class without question. It's not a popular take but I see an upside case for him as a team's lead guard/PG. IDK if he has the floor game yet, but his handle is legit and he has quality passing skill. You just want a guy that dangerous as a pull-up shooter to have the ball in his hands a lot.

Tre playing de facto PG also mitigates his biggest weakness--as I think he can hold up defensively guarding many PGs with his footspeed.
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Post#673 » by greg4012 » Wed May 14, 2025 12:09 am

lastb1ckman wrote:Jase Richardson is tiny, only 6.0" barefoot. He might fall to us afterall. Got that Rozier build lol


If only he had Rozier's wingspan
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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2025** 

Post#674 » by Wiltside » Wed May 14, 2025 12:45 am

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lastb1ckman wrote:Jase Richardson is tiny, only 6.0" barefoot. He might fall to us afterall. Got that Rozier build lol


If only he had Rozier's wingspan


Eh, not like Terry puts it to good use anyway lol
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Post#675 » by Vertical Limit » Wed May 14, 2025 12:47 am

I dont think we will be using that pick.. itll get dealt
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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2025** 

Post#676 » by Heat3 » Wed May 14, 2025 12:50 am

Should draft another center since Spo will find some reason to put Ware in the dog house this year. Going to need someone else to help Bam for the few minutes Heat aren't playing small ball.
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Post#677 » by lastb1ckman » Wed May 14, 2025 1:05 am

greg4012 wrote:
lastb1ckman wrote:Jase Richardson is tiny, only 6.0" barefoot. He might fall to us afterall. Got that Rozier build lol


If only he had Rozier's wingspan


Tbh, he almost does. Jase measured a 6'6" wingspan. Rozier has an 6'8" wingspan. Thats why I said he's build like Rozier.
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Post#678 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed May 14, 2025 3:33 am

lastb1ckman wrote:Jase Richardson is tiny, only 6.0" barefoot. He might fall to us afterall. Got that Rozier build lol

He’s more like a lefty Kyle Lowry and possibly even a Brunson. He’s tiny but stout. I hope his measurables do allow him to fall
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Post#679 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed May 14, 2025 4:02 am

Personally really hope we do keep this pick especially if we end up trading Jovic and JJJ for Durant. Think i might prefer trading a first that’s further out. We also have next year’s pick in the bag.
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Post#680 » by Vertical Limit » Wed May 14, 2025 4:30 am

Heat3 wrote:Should draft another center since Spo will find some reason to put Ware in the dog house this year. Going to need someone else to help Bam for the few minutes Heat aren't playing small ball.

If Ware isnt putting at least 15 lbs of muscle then he is rightfully in the doghouse.. he needs to be a different player than he was his first season.. youre not going to make it in the nba being the same guy.. hell JJJ is on his way to the euroleague..


Both JJJ and Ware should be in summer league.. if davion isnt in summer league then get yourself a shooting coach over the summer break and work on that 3 point shot
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