DayofMourning wrote:AirP. wrote:DayofMourning wrote:
I'm with you AirP. It's all about advanced stats. For example, Embiid has a 114 offensive rating and a 104 defensive rating for his career. Yurtseven is at 112 and 104 this year. That's why I've got Embiid as marginally better, and Jarrett Allen as the best center in the league.
Or maybe take in consideration of the context of the stats?
My point is to look at the pros and cons of an argument on each side, if you can't do that your decision can't really be taken seriously.
On Yurtseven, Dedmon proved it last year that a legit sized averaged skilled big can do very well in this offense, good enough Miami was fine moving Bam's future backup and sticking with Dedmon, then came along Yurtseven who continued to prove that an average skilled big could flourish. Miami's FO/Coaching staff is just infatuated with the idea of a switching center and it does seem to be working. Dedmon was 117 and 105, why no mention of him?
I'm seen as a person who hates Herro yet I praise his shooting and skillset(especially for his age), I just see some really concerning problems that aren't so easy to fix.
I get it AirP. You like to play devils advocate to a bunch of homer Heat fans. You're trying to get some rabid fans to look at other POV logically when they just want their candidate to win. It's a bit like running in mud, but you will eventually get somewhere.
Not playing devil's advocate, just stating things I think are major flaws that will keep him from being a great help to the team their on, as good as people think he is, he could be so much better with just normal focus and caring of possessions. I want to see Herro succeed but I'm going to talk about things I see that are just unnecessary for him to do, it's not like I've not been doing this for years, I delt with this on the Minnesota boards for about 2 years pointing out these types of issues with Wiggins and Towns with both of them coming off 23+ ppg seasons in 16-17.
Imagine being the only person talking about stupid little things about their "potential" players like why is Wiggins not paying attention during the game, he wasn't talking to the ref while he stared in the stands while his man back doored him for an easy alley oop layup. I still have no idea why he spaced out during a live ball, I could somewhat understand if he was communicating with the ref but he wasn't.
Or why in the $)(# does Towns have a food in the lane when Gibson is in position for the help defense and Town's man...B.Lopez is completely alone in the corner... which ended up being an uncontested 3. Towns has HOF talent but just makes poor decisions all the time and is currently in year 7 of his career, he may be who he's going to be. Luckily Minnesota lucked into Anthony Edwards so they'll be fine while they have him.
It's basically the same thing, different message board, talented younger players getting a pass on their rookie contract and then become "problems" on their 2nd contract. Hopefully Robinson was just a way to have a somewhat sizable contract to move in the summer of 2022.