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Philly @ Miami - Tuesday - May 10th - 7:30 PM - GAME 5

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Re: Philly @ Miami - Tuesday - May 10th - 7:30 PM - GAME 5 

Post#681 » by AirP. » Wed May 11, 2022 2:13 am

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AirP. wrote:So, the question... what to do with Herro for the current playoffs. If/when Miami gets to the ECF, whoever they play will have a better defense and better defenders then Philly so if he's not effective now, it's quite possibly going to get worse in the next round for Herro.


I think he's in his own head. When he's playing his game he's going to get points.

No... when defenders give him space he can work them, teams are figuring Herro out, the scouting reports are getting better on him, get in his jersey and he's going to hurt you and in fact it's quite possible he gives up the ball or makes a bad pass.

If there's a team out there willing to give up good value for Herro because they're willing to take a chance on him, let them but you don't just give him away, he's still a valuable asset while on his rookie contract.
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Re: Philly @ Miami - Tuesday - May 10th - 7:30 PM - GAME 5 

Post#682 » by goodboy » Wed May 11, 2022 2:14 am

IggieCC wrote:The real question is what did the previous op do to deserve prime Harden out of nowhere and this op gets run of a mill bum ass Harden?

Its called the boy effect.

It made Harden into softden hence no man attributes were permitted tonight.

Also, Ive been telling all of you. Year and a half in the making, endless sweat and training led me to this. Watched a full game of Heat in over a year.

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Re: Philly @ Miami - Tuesday - May 10th - 7:30 PM - GAME 5 

Post#683 » by 3ballbomber » Wed May 11, 2022 2:15 am

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Watched gm4 replay frm 6min mark in 3rd. Foster had already put them in the penalty early in the Q. Each time we blew on them, esp Biid, it's ft's. @ one pt it was 4pt gm, he got to the line 2 times in a row including frm phantom foul on Strus to help extend their lead. That foul on Harden called on Dipo was a clear jump ball, even w/out the slow-mo-replay! In spite of the nonsense we managed to keep it close to end the Q.

In 4Q pretty much same of what we saw in the 3rd. It's extremely tough to play when we're heavily hindered to do what we normally do. On the opposite side it's easy to get into rhythm & momentum if you're permitted to do so. Again, in spite of the BS we managed to keep it close throughout. All those missed shots & our horrible % we were still in the gm for the most part & lost by just 8pts in the end. Take away several of the bs calls by crook Scotty & you may have diff results.


I reiterate we did not lose gm4. Don't be fooled. As an avid bettor I've seen this BS too many times. My money's on Heat gm5. Watch the tides turn.


3ballbomber wrote:This is how I believe it will go:

After Embiid surprising come back & win 2 in a row to even the series, after Miami dominated in gm 1 & 2 & made to look incompetent last 2 games, the public no longer believe in Miami Heat & jumped on the 76ers bandwagon.....

Only for Miami to then shoot lights out in gm5, win & lead the series 3-2. Suddenly nobody is talking about how bad our shooting is. The chatter is how good our shooting is & how we showed why we are #1 seed in the East. The discussion now is how bad 76ers look & them possibly losing the series. Redick may even change his mind again.

Gm6 w/ public on Miami & Narrative all about he Heat & doubt on 76ers. How Philly's back are against the wall. Only for Philly to shock the public, win & send the series to a deciding massive Game 7.

Fabricated drama gets the NBA & their hip pockets what they want...a Game 7, where it could go either way. But eventually the team that was supposed to advance will win....

Spoiler:
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And there it is.....The script has flipped. Just another playoff script ready to be read & taken advantage of by bettors who are aware of NBA bs.

Amazing how good we look when we're permitted to play our gm & 76ers then get the treatment we received in Philly & made to look completely incompetent as we did in gm 3 & 4.

Chatter is now about how good we are & how awful they look. As stated I'm anticipating a Philly win gm6 to set up a big gm7. I hope I'm wrong.

Ultimately w/ all BS aside I think we are the better team here & we should take this out to advance to the ECF.
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Re: Philly @ Miami - Tuesday - May 10th - 7:30 PM - GAME 5 

Post#684 » by oreon » Wed May 11, 2022 2:15 am

AirP. wrote:So, the question... what to do with Herro for the current playoffs. If/when Miami gets to the ECF, whoever they play will have a better defense and better defenders then Philly so if he's not effective now, it's quite possibly going to get worse in the next round for Herro.


Cut his minutes. Bring him in for 6 min, if he's ineffective and getting torched defensively you sit him till the 3rd and try him again. With Lowry out likely till finals, you're gonna need a min of 12 mins for Tyler. But I wouldn't completely cut him out of the rotation. If you do, don't play him at all in the playoffs and trade him 1st thing in the offseason. Cuz that would completely kill his confidence.
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Post#685 » by HeatFanDan » Wed May 11, 2022 2:16 am

UFAlum88 wrote:"Right now the Sixers taking it on the chin!"
You know what they taking on their chin?

DEEZ NUTS!

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Re: Philly @ Miami - Tuesday - May 10th - 7:30 PM - GAME 5 

Post#686 » by AirP. » Wed May 11, 2022 2:17 am

oreon wrote:
AirP. wrote:So, the question... what to do with Herro for the current playoffs. If/when Miami gets to the ECF, whoever they play will have a better defense and better defenders then Philly so if he's not effective now, it's quite possibly going to get worse in the next round for Herro.


Cut his minutes. Bring him in for 6 min, if he's ineffective and getting torched defensively you sit him till the 3rd and try him again. With Lowry out likely till finals, you're gonna need a min of 12 mins for Tyler. But I wouldn't completely cut him out of the rotation. If you do, don't play him at all in the playoffs and trade him 1st thing in the offseason. Cuz that would completely kill his confidence.

Lowry will be back before then; if/when Miami gets by the 76ers I'd consider keeping Lowry from anything that could mess with his hamstring until Miami loses a game in the ECF.
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Re: Philly @ Miami - Tuesday - May 10th - 7:30 PM - GAME 5 

Post#687 » by BenoUdrihFTL » Wed May 11, 2022 2:19 am

AirP. wrote:So, the question... what to do with Herro for the current playoffs. If/when Miami gets to the ECF, whoever they play will have a better defense and better defenders then Philly so if he's not effective now, it's quite possibly going to get worse in the next round for Herro.

Coming into tonight Herro was putting up 17/6/3 on 58% TS for the series
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Post#688 » by Shewasfly » Wed May 11, 2022 2:22 am

Looking at Luka play yall will see what I’m saying about Tyler’s weakness/frailness and how it hampers his game. Luka arguably has LESS athleticism than Herro but he’s solid and strong. He can get to his spots and get a good look no matter how you play him. He also puts more pressure on the defender causing them to be more off balance and foul more.

I’d like to see Herro get bigger and see how that helps him fend off physical defense. Not huge, but put on just enough weight to not be bounced off opposing players. Will help his D too.
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Re: Philly @ Miami - Tuesday - May 10th - 7:30 PM - GAME 5 

Post#689 » by IggieCC » Wed May 11, 2022 2:22 am

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IggieCC wrote:The real question is what did the previous op do to deserve prime Harden out of nowhere and this op gets run of a mill bum ass Harden?

Its called the boy effect.

It made Harden into softden hence no man attributes were permitted tonight.

Also, Ive been telling all of you. Year and a half in the making, endless sweat and training led me to this. Watched a full game of Heat in over a year.

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Re: Philly @ Miami - Tuesday - May 10th - 7:30 PM - GAME 5 

Post#690 » by Hallstar » Wed May 11, 2022 2:23 am

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AirP. wrote:So, the question... what to do with Herro for the current playoffs. If/when Miami gets to the ECF, whoever they play will have a better defense and better defenders then Philly so if he's not effective now, it's quite possibly going to get worse in the next round for Herro.


Back him in. Tyler has come through for us before. Dude put up 37 on Boston in the bubble, and has been a core piece for us all season.

If it ain't working, well, we give more burn to Vic/Strus or break out Duncan for spacing. See what happens. But I think we need to give Tyler the benefit of the doubt. He's earned that.

He's now had 21 playoff games since that 37 point game and he's had 20+ points 3 times since then. Let that sink in.

that's 3 this playoffs.

Some of you are hilarious.

His role and the rotations are completely different since the reg season. Yes Philly is trapping more, but that's hardly the issue.
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Post#691 » by Heat_Down_Under » Wed May 11, 2022 2:24 am

If we don’t win the next game it’s going to be too much pressure at home and we might lose game 7. Must close this out in 6 and gain confidence that we can win away against a good team in the play offs
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Post#692 » by harlem_ball » Wed May 11, 2022 2:31 am

This was an epic slaughter.


Good to see
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Post#693 » by HeatFanDan » Wed May 11, 2022 2:33 am

I know that Spero Dedes Nutz and Grant Hill suck, but the alternative would be Kevin Harlan and Reggie Miller, who are equally awful.
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Post#694 » by Lilseb93 » Wed May 11, 2022 2:34 am

I've definitely seen people say the Bucks or Celtics are going to destroy us so I'm not sure why people are acting they haven't seen that. I'd assume destroying a team doesn't mean winning in 6-7. People think it will be a sweep or in 5.
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Post#695 » by marson » Wed May 11, 2022 2:36 am

harlem_ball wrote:This was an epic slaughter.


Good to see


Your coach Spobottto did well tonight
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Post#696 » by HeatFanDan » Wed May 11, 2022 2:37 am

Lilseb93 wrote:I've definitely seen people say the Bucks or Celtics are going to destroy us so I'm not sure why people are acting they haven't seen that. I'd assume destroying a team doesn't mean winning in 6-7. People think it will be a sweep or in 5.

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Post#697 » by Wiltside » Wed May 11, 2022 2:37 am

Shewasfly wrote:Looking at Luka play yall will see what I’m saying about Tyler’s weakness/frailness and how it hampers his game. Luka arguably has LESS athleticism than Herro but he’s solid and strong. He can get to his spots and get a good look no matter how you play him. He also puts more pressure on the defender causing them to be more off balance and foul more.

I’d like to see Herro get bigger and see how that helps him fend off physical defense. Not huge, but put on just enough weight to not be bounced off opposing players. Will help his D too.


I expect adding weight is the plan. He needs to get stronger, no doubt, but he’s still a kid really physically. He’s only 22.
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Re: Philly @ Miami - Tuesday - May 10th - 7:30 PM - GAME 5 

Post#698 » by Lilseb93 » Wed May 11, 2022 2:38 am

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Lilseb93 wrote:I've definitely seen people say the Bucks or Celtics are going to destroy us so I'm not sure why people are acting they haven't seen that. I'd assume destroying a team doesn't mean winning in 6-7. People think it will be a sweep or in 5.

Not scared of Bosdone.


I'm not either. It's going to be like the bubble where nobody had any respect for us, and were absolutely shocked Miami went up 3-1. Not saying we'll go up 3-1 again, but it won't be like people think.
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Post#699 » by Lilseb93 » Wed May 11, 2022 2:40 am

It will be good for us in to close this series out in Philly because we're going to have to learn to play better on the road in a tough environment. We're likely going to have win on the road against Boston or Milwaukee, and definitely against the West winner if we make the Finals again.
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Post#700 » by HeatFanDan » Wed May 11, 2022 2:42 am

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Lilseb93 wrote:I've definitely seen people say the Bucks or Celtics are going to destroy us so I'm not sure why people are acting they haven't seen that. I'd assume destroying a team doesn't mean winning in 6-7. People think it will be a sweep or in 5.

Not scared of Bosdone.


I'm not either. It's going to be like the bubble where nobody had any respect for us, and were absolutely shocked Miami went up 3-1. Not saying we'll go up 3-1 again, but it won't be like people think.

I mean, historically speaking, we struggle to win in Bosdone BIG time, but with the home court advantage, we technically wouldn't have to.

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