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I really like pairing Powell with Wiggins at the 2-3
Guys I’d target for Herro outgoing
Trae Young
Lamelo Ball
Ja
You put one of those guys on the team with two lob threats and defensive minded wings who can shoot the ball and you have something going. Ja would go insane with this group.
Lamelo Ball I think is gettable from Charlotte, he’s in my opinion a top 10 player in the NBA and everybody will act all shocked about it once he’s actually coached.
Guys I’d target for Herro outgoing
Trae Young
Lamelo Ball
Ja
You put one of those guys on the team with two lob threats and defensive minded wings who can shoot the ball and you have something going. Ja would go insane with this group.
Lamelo Ball I think is gettable from Charlotte, he’s in my opinion a top 10 player in the NBA and everybody will act all shocked about it once he’s actually coached.
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HeatFan_NC wrote:3ballbomber wrote:HeatFan_NC wrote:I think the Powell trade is the trade before THE TRADE. Powell is the complementary piece to the big time player we are going to acquire
Bam for Giannis in-coming. . .
I would prefer to send Herro to MIL and keep Bam.
Can you imagine a lineup with Giannis at SF, Bam at PF, and Ware at C?
If Bam’s truly the better player perceived around the league we’d give up less in a trade than w/ Herro is my thinking. Bam’s defence is as lethal as Herro’s scoring - wld depend on what/who we value more & further cost attached to each player.
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batterybro42 wrote:I really like pairing Powell with Wiggins at the 2-3
Guys I’d target for Herro outgoing
Trae Young
Lamelo Ball
Ja
You put one of those guys on the team with two lob threats and defensive minded wings who can shoot the ball and you have something going. Ja would go insane with this group.
Lamelo Ball I think is gettable from Charlotte, he’s in my opinion a top 10 player in the NBA and everybody will act all shocked about it once he’s actually coached.
Put fox on the list.. and hes likely the most gettable of the four

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batterybro42 wrote:I really like pairing Powell with Wiggins at the 2-3
Guys I’d target for Herro outgoing
Trae Young
Lamelo Ball
Ja
You put one of those guys on the team with two lob threats and defensive minded wings who can shoot the ball and you have something going. Ja would go insane with this group.
Lamelo Ball I think is gettable from Charlotte, he’s in my opinion a top 10 player in the NBA and everybody will act all shocked about it once he’s actually coached.
Careful with the Lamelo agenda
These boards aren’t too kind about it
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I really don’t want to head into next year with Herro has the starting PG again. Why haven’t we learned our lesson yet that that bigs need a Kyle Lowry type. Herro needs a Kyle Lowry type.
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MettaWorldPanda wrote:I really don’t want to head into next year with Herro has the starting PG again. Why haven’t we learned our lesson yet that that bigs need a Kyle Lowry type. Herro needs a Kyle Lowry type.
Has anyone in the org talked about running Herro at pg or is this an internet thing?
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I just want a stout defensive PG next to Herro that can hit an occasional 3 and run some offense aside from Davion Mitchell.
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Kobewade11 wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:I really don’t want to head into next year with Herro has the starting PG again. Why haven’t we learned our lesson yet that that bigs need a Kyle Lowry type. Herro needs a Kyle Lowry type.
Has anyone in the org talked about running Herro at pg or is this an internet thing?
Lots of assuming that Herro and Powell are going to be the starting backcourt. I’m hoping Powell is the 6th man.
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Depth chart now looking like:
PG - Mitchell / Rozier / Jakucionis / Smith (2-way)
SG - Herro / Powell / Larsson
SF - Wiggins / Jaquez / Fontecchio
PF - Adebayo / Jovic / Highsmith / Johnson
C - Ware / Goldin (2-way)
I doubt Terry gets the nod at backup 1 - I expect him on the bench. I assume Jaquez/Larsson will do more on ball duty, with Powell as the movement shooter and relief bucket getter. Jakucionis doesn't appear ready for significant rotation minutes and will need to earn PT in Sioux Falls/practice/training camp.
Looking at this, we need a backup 5.
Guys we could consider:
- Ben Simmons; there may be enough shooting with Powell now to make this a possibility. Could also alleviate some of our backup point issues, as he's a better ball handler and passer than Jaquez or Larsson.
- Bol Bol; probably a Ware-lite, but worth a flyer.
- Marvin Bagley; similar to above
- Chris Boucher; vet big who can stretch the floor
- DeAndre Jordan; more of the vet presence type/mentor.
PG - Mitchell / Rozier / Jakucionis / Smith (2-way)
SG - Herro / Powell / Larsson
SF - Wiggins / Jaquez / Fontecchio
PF - Adebayo / Jovic / Highsmith / Johnson
C - Ware / Goldin (2-way)
I doubt Terry gets the nod at backup 1 - I expect him on the bench. I assume Jaquez/Larsson will do more on ball duty, with Powell as the movement shooter and relief bucket getter. Jakucionis doesn't appear ready for significant rotation minutes and will need to earn PT in Sioux Falls/practice/training camp.
Looking at this, we need a backup 5.
Guys we could consider:
- Ben Simmons; there may be enough shooting with Powell now to make this a possibility. Could also alleviate some of our backup point issues, as he's a better ball handler and passer than Jaquez or Larsson.
- Bol Bol; probably a Ware-lite, but worth a flyer.
- Marvin Bagley; similar to above
- Chris Boucher; vet big who can stretch the floor
- DeAndre Jordan; more of the vet presence type/mentor.
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Wiltside wrote:Depth chart now looking like:
PG - Mitchell / Rozier / Jakucionis / Smith (2-way)
SG - Herro / Powell / Larsson
SF - Wiggins / Jaquez / Fontecchio
PF - Adebayo / Jovic / Highsmith / Johnson
C - Ware / Goldin (2-way)
I doubt Terry gets the nod at backup 1 - I expect him on the bench. I assume Jaquez/Larsson will do more on ball duty, with Powell as the movement shooter and relief bucket getter. Jakucionis doesn't appear ready for significant rotation minutes and will need to earn PT in Sioux Falls/practice/training camp.
Looking at this, we need a backup 5.
Guys we could consider:
- Ben Simmons; there may be enough shooting with Powell now to make this a possibility. Could also alleviate some of our backup point issues, as he's a better ball handler and passer than Jaquez or Larsson.
- Bol Bol; probably a Ware-lite, but worth a flyer.
- Marvin Bagley; similar to above
- Chris Boucher; vet big who can stretch the floor
- DeAndre Jordan; more of the vet presence type/mentor.
If we can flip Rozier and whatever for Marcus Smart and Richuan Holmes i’ll be very pleased
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So are we still petitioning Riley to retire?
Fantastic move. I didn't think a player like Powell would be available for Miami's end-of-the-bench fodder. I am even more shocked I haven't heard any bitching and complaining about Powell being 32 or stealing time from Larsson and Bronny.
Let's get Herro, Rozier, and Wiggins dealt.
Fantastic move. I didn't think a player like Powell would be available for Miami's end-of-the-bench fodder. I am even more shocked I haven't heard any bitching and complaining about Powell being 32 or stealing time from Larsson and Bronny.
Let's get Herro, Rozier, and Wiggins dealt.
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Wiltside wrote:Depth chart now looking like:
PG - Mitchell / Rozier / Jakucionis / Smith (2-way)
SG - Herro / Powell / Larsson
SF - Wiggins / Jaquez / Fontecchio
PF - Adebayo / Jovic / Highsmith / Johnson
C - Ware / Goldin (2-way)
I doubt Terry gets the nod at backup 1 - I expect him on the bench. I assume Jaquez/Larsson will do more on ball duty, with Powell as the movement shooter and relief bucket getter. Jakucionis doesn't appear ready for significant rotation minutes and will need to earn PT in Sioux Falls/practice/training camp.
Looking at this, we need a backup 5.
Guys we could consider:
- Ben Simmons; there may be enough shooting with Powell now to make this a possibility. Could also alleviate some of our backup point issues, as he's a better ball handler and passer than Jaquez or Larsson.
- Bol Bol; probably a Ware-lite, but worth a flyer.
- Marvin Bagley; similar to above
- Chris Boucher; vet big who can stretch the floor
- DeAndre Jordan; more of the vet presence type/mentor.
Yep looking at our depth chart a back up C is def the priority.. bring back Bol Bol he was meant to be ours

also think Spo will mix and match Davion and Herro at the PG position and have Herro play the PG and Powell the SG at times..
showtime def needs more burn over HH in my opinion..
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SA37 wrote:So are we still petitioning Riley to retire?
Fantastic move. I didn't think a player like Powell would be available for Miami's end-of-the-bench fodder. I am even more shocked I haven't heard any bitching and complaining about Powell being 32 or stealing time from Larsson and Bronny.
Let's get Herro, Rozier, and Wiggins dealt.
Nah.. Pat literally woke up from his deep sleep and committed steals in the draft followed by a trade robbery..my goodness.. Pat has awoken!
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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Wiltside wrote:Depth chart now looking like:
PG - Mitchell / Rozier / Jakucionis / Smith (2-way)
SG - Herro / Powell / Larsson
SF - Wiggins / Jaquez / Fontecchio
PF - Adebayo / Jovic / Highsmith / Johnson
C - Ware / Goldin (2-way)
I doubt Terry gets the nod at backup 1 - I expect him on the bench. I assume Jaquez/Larsson will do more on ball duty, with Powell as the movement shooter and relief bucket getter. Jakucionis doesn't appear ready for significant rotation minutes and will need to earn PT in Sioux Falls/practice/training camp.
Looking at this, we need a backup 5.
Guys we could consider:
- Ben Simmons; there may be enough shooting with Powell now to make this a possibility. Could also alleviate some of our backup point issues, as he's a better ball handler and passer than Jaquez or Larsson.
- Bol Bol; probably a Ware-lite, but worth a flyer.
- Marvin Bagley; similar to above
- Chris Boucher; vet big who can stretch the floor
- DeAndre Jordan; more of the vet presence type/mentor.
If we can flip Rozier and whatever for Marcus Smart and Richuan Holmes i’ll be very pleased
Bro if we can snag smart it’s a successful offseason to be fair..
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The spacing of Green, Butler, and DeRozan isn’t ideal.
Curry is the greatest shooter of all time but 3 below average 3pt shooters as your main cast isn’t the best idea.
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To those saying Tyler can't play the point, or that it doesn't work at all, most of that came with him next to either a Duncan Robinson (equally poor defender) or Pelle Larson (zero ball handling relief). Norman Powell isn't a point either, but he can at least handle the rock a bit, and regressed or not, he's not as bad defensively as Duncan.
One other point to consider, starting small forward is a big question mark right now, both to start the season and as the season progresses. I'm sort of hoping Wiggins is dealt, so assuming it isn't to land a star or another starter quality replacement, its between HH, Jovic and JJJ to take the job. If it ends up being JJJ, he also showed a decent handle his rookie year, and a lineup of Herro/Powell/JJJ I think gives Tyler enough support with handling the rock that you can slot him in at the point.
Still a long ways away of course. I like JK and Jovic but they're wildcards in my mind, better to keep low expectations there. For Jaime this is more of a make or break year since he already entered the league older than a lot of guys do. And if it's Haywood, then yeah that offers zero help handling the rock.
Also I don't understand the desperation to dump Tyler, just be smart about his extension. He'll play hard this season since he's going to want to make money, let him work for you, use him as a chip to acquire a star or if you can't make that move, play hardball with him to get him at value where he'll still have positive trade value if you want to move on from him later. Some of you guys are acting like he's toxic waste and he's coming off his best season yet.
One other point to consider, starting small forward is a big question mark right now, both to start the season and as the season progresses. I'm sort of hoping Wiggins is dealt, so assuming it isn't to land a star or another starter quality replacement, its between HH, Jovic and JJJ to take the job. If it ends up being JJJ, he also showed a decent handle his rookie year, and a lineup of Herro/Powell/JJJ I think gives Tyler enough support with handling the rock that you can slot him in at the point.
Still a long ways away of course. I like JK and Jovic but they're wildcards in my mind, better to keep low expectations there. For Jaime this is more of a make or break year since he already entered the league older than a lot of guys do. And if it's Haywood, then yeah that offers zero help handling the rock.
Also I don't understand the desperation to dump Tyler, just be smart about his extension. He'll play hard this season since he's going to want to make money, let him work for you, use him as a chip to acquire a star or if you can't make that move, play hardball with him to get him at value where he'll still have positive trade value if you want to move on from him later. Some of you guys are acting like he's toxic waste and he's coming off his best season yet.
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batterybro42 wrote:I really like pairing Powell with Wiggins at the 2-3
Guys I’d target for Herro outgoing
Trae Young
Lamelo Ball
Ja
You put one of those guys on the team with two lob threats and defensive minded wings who can shoot the ball and you have something going. Ja would go insane with this group.
Lamelo Ball I think is gettable from Charlotte, he’s in my opinion a top 10 player in the NBA and everybody will act all shocked about it once he’s actually coached.
No interest in Ball. I don't get why this board is obsessed with getting one of the Ball brothers.
Trae Young is too ball-dominant for my taste, but he is clutch.
Ja is all-NBA caliber and has shown he can play at a high level without being ball-dominant. I don't see why Memphis would trade him.