Andrew Bynum

[aquaadverse]

Bynum is better than all of our bigs. Buttom line. And thats just it. If we have the possibility to make our team strnger we have to take it. Thats how i think. And its not a punt on oden. I really loved that oden pan out. But his background show me the other way..

Not sure you can say that without context. Bottom line is the roster was put together the last 3 and a half seasons with a particular fit and style. What you're saying is Bynum is such a great talent, like Shaq, it's worth while to change those schemes when he's in the game because he is a game changer. If he was willing to take the Vet minimum, meet the same conditioning goals and be willing to sit until his number is called, great. I'm not seeing that from him.

Bynum needs to camp out under the rim for putbacks, doesn't run back for transition defense and is a general pain in the ass in the locker room. Lakers let him walk. Philly invested tens of millions in him and let him walk. Cleveland paid him $6M and let him walk. See the pattern ?

for the people like you who don't want Bynum, what exactly is your answer to our needs? just wait on Oden?

Exactly where did I say I didn't, or wouldn't want Bynum under any circumstances ? I just don't see him as a magic answer and I don't see him as "better than any other Big" on the Heat based on the system they run. Dude is shooting 41% from the field. Cavs ranked last in transition defense when he was in the game.

2005–06 L.A. Lakers 46 0 7.3 .402 .000 .296 1.7 .2 .1 .5 1.6
2006–07 L.A. Lakers 82 53 21.9 .558 .000 .668 5.9 1.1 .1 1.6 7.8
2007–08 L.A. Lakers 35 25 28.8 .636 .000 .695 10.2 1.7 .3 2.1 13.1
2008–09 L.A. Lakers 50 50 28.9 .560 .000 .707 8.0 1.4 .4 1.8 14.3
2009–10 L.A. Lakers 65 65 30.4 .570 .000 .739 8.3 1.0 .5 1.4 15.0
2010–11 L.A. Lakers 54 47 27.8 .574 .000 .660 9.4 1.4 .4 2.0 11.3
2011–12 L.A. Lakers 60 60 35.2 .558 .200 .692 11.8 1.4 .5 1.9 18.7
2013–14 Cleveland 24 19 20.0 .419 .000 .762 5.3 1.1 .3 1.2 8.4

See those games played ? I get the whole when "every problem is a nail every solution is a hammer" stuff. That's what we saw during the whole "Pittman, Curry, Dampier makes a difference stuff. You think a move, any move, is better than what we have now.If Bynum was all that , he wouldn't be looking for a job right now. Making hysterical moves for the sake of making moves is stupid.

[aquaadverse]

What's with all the Bynum hype? The guy hasn't played well in Cleveland, has shown attitude problems and I hardly believe he'll just want to be a cushion in case we need a big body to throw in there. Look how quickly he lost his motivation after things didn't go right from the get-go. I'd put just as much money on Oden being a consistent productive force as I'd put on Bynum. I was a fan of the kid's game, but his soft attitude makes me think he won't be the All-Star center he was for one season.

I guess you're happy with this team being soft and clumsy when it comes to getting rebounds. Even if he doesn't play well, it's still a good gamble that the Heat should take because it's not like they're doing any better right now when it comes to securing rebounds and protecting the paint. Would you rather see Mason continues to brick open shots all day or would you take a gamble on a guy who was once considered as a top five center in the league a couple years ago?

Would you rather see a 4 guard Roster when 2 of them are Wade and Allen ?

[RJM]

Bynum routinely out plays Hibbert, but no let's sign a billion guards and play sissy small ball making Hibbert look like prime Shaq and push us to the brink of elimination...and with Indy improved this season it could be elimination.

THIS. FOREVER.

[heater4life]

Just as certain idiots in here lack reading comprehension. Those that made comparisons to the names you mentioned did so in terms a schematic fit. Not talent level.

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[heatlespeatles]

Not sure you can say that without context. Bottom line is the roster was put together the last 3 and a half seasons with a particular fit and style. What you're saying is Bynum is such a great talent, like Shaq, it's worth while to change those schemes when he's in the game because he is a game changer. If he was willing to take the Vet minimum, meet the same conditioning goals and be willing to sit until his number is called, great. I'm not seeing that from him.

Bynum needs to camp out under the rim for putbacks, doesn't run back for transition defense and is a general pain in the ass in the locker room. Lakers let him walk. Philly invested tens of millions in him and let him walk. Cleveland paid him $6M and let him walk. See the pattern ?

for the people like you who don't want Bynum, what exactly is your answer to our needs? just wait on Oden?

Exactly where did I say I didn't, or wouldn't want Bynum under any circumstances ? I just don't see him as a magic answer and I don't see him as "better than any other Big" on the Heat based on the system they run. Dude is shooting 41% from the field. Cavs ranked last in transition defense when he was in the game.

2005–06 L.A. Lakers 46 0 7.3 .402 .000 .296 1.7 .2 .1 .5 1.6
2006–07 L.A. Lakers 82 53 21.9 .558 .000 .668 5.9 1.1 .1 1.6 7.8
2007–08 L.A. Lakers 35 25 28.8 .636 .000 .695 10.2 1.7 .3 2.1 13.1
2008–09 L.A. Lakers 50 50 28.9 .560 .000 .707 8.0 1.4 .4 1.8 14.3
2009–10 L.A. Lakers 65 65 30.4 .570 .000 .739 8.3 1.0 .5 1.4 15.0
2010–11 L.A. Lakers 54 47 27.8 .574 .000 .660 9.4 1.4 .4 2.0 11.3
2011–12 L.A. Lakers 60 60 35.2 .558 .200 .692 11.8 1.4 .5 1.9 18.7
2013–14 Cleveland 24 19 20.0 .419 .000 .762 5.3 1.1 .3 1.2 8.4

See those games played ? I get the whole when "every problem is a nail every solution is a hammer" stuff. That's what we saw during the whole "Pittman, Curry, Dampier makes a difference stuff. You think a move, any move, is better than what we have now.If Bynum was all that , he wouldn't be looking for a job right now. Making hysterical moves for the sake of making moves is stupid.

meaningless numbers when it comes to this team. I'm not concerned with transition defense, our problem is HALF COURT DEFENSE!!!!!!

Pittman, Curry, Dampier don't have a smidgen of as much talent as Bynum has. There is no perfect center, if your center is big,heavy and tall, its likely he cant get out on shooters like say Joakim Noah can but he's gonna outplay Noah in almost every way offensively, we are talking about a guy who is a traditional big who had post moves, uses his body well and rebounds and block shots. No he can't spring around playing headless chicken Heat defense all game but if we settle in and play a more traditional defense he would be fine.

This is what slow, fat, injured, no transition defense playing Bynum did to the vaunted Bulls defense that our bigs and team seem to struggle against https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZdVPMD1t0A

The fact is, this team needs the ability to play a different way, which is why they got Oden...and if you telling me Oden with his bad knees will be able to run out on shooters and run back in transition way better than Curry, Dampier or Pittman you gotta be smoking....and guess what we signed Oden. Because Oden also allows us to play traditionally!!!!. Again, i get when the argument is attitude, but when the argument is game? are u flipping kidding me?

[ssenbonzakura]

Are people actually saying Bynum won't improve this team? The reason why teams can compete against us is because of rebounds, second chance points and 3-pt shooting. We always have to leave shooters open because we have no paint presence. We expend more energy closing out on shooters because we have no paint presence. Hibbert looks like only a decent center against 29 other teams but turns into prime Shaq against us, because let's face it Bosh can't guard him, neither can Birdman.

Oden is still rehabbing, and will continue to do so until cleared. Bynum has been able to get on the court this season, and been decent in some games. Riley never says no to talent. If Bynum will come on Riley's terms, he'll be a heat player for sure.

[Tjjrex]

Defense aside, adding another scoring element through bynum wouldn't hurt either, seeing as we have trouble scoring without lebron or wade doing the heavy lifting.

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[FlashFlare]

We'd be ridiculously dumb to not give it a shot if he actually does want to come here. Along with Oden getting ready to play, our center problems against the big teams are reduced. Tired of routinely getting pounded on the boards and losing games because of it. If he acts up, cut him. There's minimal risks and all the more to gain. You think Bynum will actually affect the chemistry of this veteran team? One that has high character guys? No.

[aboogie]

What's with all the Bynum hype? The guy hasn't played well in Cleveland, has shown attitude problems and I hardly believe he'll just want to be a cushion in case we need a big body to throw in there. Look how quickly he lost his motivation after things didn't go right from the get-go. I'd put just as much money on Oden being a consistent productive force as I'd put on Bynum. I was a fan of the kid's game, but his soft attitude makes me think he won't be the All-Star center he was for one season.

I guess you're happy with this team being soft and clumsy when it comes to getting rebounds. Even if he doesn't play well, it's still a good gamble that the Heat should take because it's not like they're doing any better right now when it comes to securing rebounds and protecting the paint. Would you rather see Mason continues to brick open shots all day or would you take a gamble on a guy who was once considered as a top five center in the league a couple years ago?

Would you rather see a 4 guard Roster when 2 of them are Wade and Allen ?

the way mason. Is playing don't see any difference it feels like a 4 guard roster now

[Altered_Beast]

We'd be ridiculously dumb to not give it a shot if he actually does want to come here. Along with Oden getting ready to play, our center problems against the big teams are reduced. Tired of routinely getting pounded on the boards and losing games because of it. If he acts up, cut him. There's minimal risks and all the more to gain. You think Bynum will actually affect the chemistry of this veteran team? One that has high character guys? No.

this x1000. And for the nincompoops that keep spewing put spoisms about how he doesn't fit our system. Guess what? We run the system we run cause we HAVE TO!! We do not have a single big that can pound down low and ensure rebounds and protect the paint. Both bosh and birdman who are our best big man defenders are better suited to guard the stretch 4 type bigs rather than back to the basket and put back bigs. The hope is even with just bynum giving us a solid 15 minutes we can finally see this team execute with a defensive scheme that doesn't constantly require trapping and doubles. It's been our kryptonite since day 1. I'm not saying bynum will make us unbeatable but he will make us better

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[cyclix]

Some Heat fans are so dumb it's unbelievable. Bynum would add another dimension to the team that Miami desperately needs: a banger in the post. No way Miami would not improve without Bynum since that would fill virtually the only missing link on this team. Not to mentions that Miami doesn't have many other options, and Indiana poses a matchup problem with Hibbert in the post. This is a no brainer. Any "Heat fan" that doesn't want Bynum because of character issues are fake Heat fans that don't understand the first class when it comes to Heat.

[RexBoyWonder]

^ Clam down ballboy. Nobody made you the minister of truth or fanhood.

The truth is Bynum is far from a "must get" for a lot of reasons, let's see how it plays out. Reilly knows more about the situation then all of us combined.

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Some Heat fans are so dumb it's unbelievable. Bynum would add another dimension to the team that Miami desperately needs: a banger in the post. No way Miami would not improve without Bynum since that would fill virtually the only missing link on this team. Not to mentions that Miami doesn't have many other options, and Indiana poses a matchup problem with Hibbert in the post. This is a no brainer. Any "Heat fan" that doesn't want Bynum because of character issues are fake Heat fans that don't understand the first class when it comes to Heat.

Bro, it's no use telling these posters that. You make too much sense for this place. All you will hear is stuff like "we won 2 rings the way we are!" type of stuff.

[RSCD3_]

The only thing im worried about is our attacking defense with bynum out there, id like if we could get a quicker big guy but that looks impossible.

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[twix2500]

If Bynum was here he would barely play.

[Smash3]

Some Heat fans are so dumb it's unbelievable. Bynum would add another dimension to the team that Miami desperately needs: a banger in the post. No way Miami would not improve without Bynum since that would fill virtually the only missing link on this team. Not to mentions that Miami doesn't have many other options, and Indiana poses a matchup problem with Hibbert in the post. This is a no brainer. Any "Heat fan" that doesn't want Bynum because of character issues are fake Heat fans that don't understand the first class when it comes to Heat.

Well its a good thing we have you pop in every now and then to remind us how dumb we are .

[heatlespeatles]

If Bynum was here he would barely play.

ok coach

[nbhadja]

Some Heat fans are so dumb it's unbelievable. Bynum would add another dimension to the team that Miami desperately needs: a banger in the post. No way Miami would not improve without Bynum since that would fill virtually the only missing link on this team. Not to mentions that Miami doesn't have many other options, and Indiana poses a matchup problem with Hibbert in the post. This is a no brainer. Any "Heat fan" that doesn't want Bynum because of character issues are fake Heat fans that don't understand the first class when it comes to Heat.

+1

Bynum would make Miami a much better team.

[MisterHibachi]

WT:

The Houston Rockets and Indiana Pacers could be interested in signing Andrew Bynum.

Bynum was released this week by the Chicago Bulls.

[Mars]

Only on RealGM's wiretap does the guesswork of a Cavs beat writer, answering the reader submitted email of a disgruntled Cavs fan, pass as source-worthy info...

By Mary Schmitt Boyer | The Plain Dealer
January 11, 2014 at 8:16 PM

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Hey, Mary: I love the trade of Bynum for Deng but would hate for Bynum to end up with the Heat and help them win another championship. Bynum seems like a perfect fit as a backup center to Roy Hibbert since both are big post players and the Pacers are used to feeding the post.

What would make this deal even better is for Bynum to help the Pacers knock off the Heat. Do you think that is a marriage that would work? If not, where do you see Bynum going? -- Rich Smith, Columbus

Hey, Rich: I think the Pacers are one possibility. I've also heard Houston could be in the mix.

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