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2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#701 » by greg4012 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:23 pm

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Huh, Herro is used off screens. Kentucky did not use Herro as a ball handler. One sign that a team does not herald someone one ball handling is when teams presses. If your coaches remove you from being a ball handler to break the press and stick you in the corner. You are not a ball handler sir, especially if you are a guard.


Think about how Cal operates. He likes to compartmentalize his players. Booker was not used as a ballhandler either.


Ok, again. Kapono and Herro have the same body types. Booker and Herro do not. So why are you trying to force a comparison for Booker instead of Kapono?


Did I make a comparison to Booker or did I provide context to how their mutual coach uses players? If I were to make a comparison, I'd trend towards JJ Redick.
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Post#702 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:24 pm

Mike Miller was a better prospect than Herro and Booker or Kapono. Mike Miller was a lot bigger and a lot more athletic.
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Post#703 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:26 pm

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Think about how Cal operates. He likes to compartmentalize his players. Booker was not used as a ballhandler either.


Ok, again. Kapono and Herro have the same body types. Booker and Herro do not. So why are you trying to force a comparison for Booker instead of Kapono?


Did I make a comparison to Booker or did I provide context to how their mutual coach uses players? If I were to make a comparison, I'd trend towards JJ Redick.


Again, you ignoring the body type and athleticism. Reddick is smaller than Herro and a lot faster off the ball. Herro is not particullarly fast. He is smart ala Kapono. You can actually use Reddick somewhat to break presses.
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Post#704 » by batterybro42 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:27 pm

twix2500 wrote:Mike Miller was a better prospect than Herro and Booker or Kapono. Mike Miller was a lot bigger and a lot more athletic.


Mike Miller wasn’t a PNR ballhandler neither was Jason Kapono
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Post#705 » by greg4012 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:27 pm

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Ok, again. Kapono and Herro have the same body types. Booker and Herro do not. So why are you trying to force a comparison for Booker instead of Kapono?


Did I make a comparison to Booker or did I provide context to how their mutual coach uses players? If I were to make a comparison, I'd trend towards JJ Redick.


Again, you ignoring the body type and athleticism. Reddick is smaller than Herro and a lot faster off the ball. Herro is not particullarly fast. He is smart ala Kapono.


...or I see things differently than you. I know you'r the authority on all things. But, perspective does exist.
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Post#706 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:29 pm

JJ reddick is 6'4 with a 6'4 wingspan. Herro is 6'6 with a 6'3 wingspan.
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Post#707 » by HeatIn5 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:29 pm

twix2500 wrote:He wasnt being used as no dam pick n roll ball handler. He was running off of screens and hand offs. Majority of his game was shooting, even more so than Kapono.



You obviously did not watch Herro then...

see my sig twix
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Post#708 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:30 pm

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Did I make a comparison to Booker or did I provide context to how their mutual coach uses players? If I were to make a comparison, I'd trend towards JJ Redick.


Again, you ignoring the body type and athleticism. Reddick is smaller than Herro and a lot faster off the ball. Herro is not particullarly fast. He is smart ala Kapono.


...or I see things differently than you. I know you'r the authority on all things. But, perspective does exist.


What do you see different? Kapono and Herro have the same body type and athleticism, ran the same plays. Kapono was actually a more heralded college player.
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Post#709 » by batterybro42 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:30 pm

Guess I can’t be too mad at the lazy Kapono comparisons dude shot 44% from 3 for his entire career. In the modern NBA that’s a 10-15 mil a year guy.

But hey Kapono was 6-8 played small forward and couldn’t do anything but shoot, so let’s compare him to the guard we got who slashes and plays in the PNR
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Post#710 » by HeatIn5 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:31 pm

twix2500 wrote:JJ reddick is 6'4 with a 6'4 wingspan. Herro is 6'6 with a 6'3 wingspan.



and Jason Kapono is 6'8. Can we stop this?
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Post#711 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:32 pm

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twix2500 wrote:He wasnt being used as no dam pick n roll ball handler. He was running off of screens and hand offs. Majority of his game was shooting, even more so than Kapono.



You obviously did not watch Herro then...

see my sig twix


YO I just watch full games of Kapono and Herro. Im watching the full games. Not highlights. I am telling you the Wildcats shy away from Herro as a ball handler when teams press. I cant say that if I am not watching the game.
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Post#712 » by batterybro42 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:33 pm

twix2500 wrote:
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Again, you ignoring the body type and athleticism. Reddick is smaller than Herro and a lot faster off the ball. Herro is not particullarly fast. He is smart ala Kapono.


...or I see things differently than you. I know you'r the authority on all things. But, perspective does exist.


What do you see different? Kapono and Herro have the same body type and athleticism, ran the same plays. Kapono was actually a more heralded college player.


Same body type and athleticism???? Ran the same plays????

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Post#713 » by Kobewade11 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:35 pm

twix2500 wrote:Mike Miller was a better prospect than Herro and Booker or Kapono. Mike Miller was a lot bigger and a lot more athletic.

Maybe. I don't see Mike doing anything here that Mike Jr. shouldn't be able to do
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Post#714 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:35 pm

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twix2500 wrote:JJ reddick is 6'4 with a 6'4 wingspan. Herro is 6'6 with a 6'3 wingspan.



and Jason Kapono is 6'8. Can we stop this?



JFM, dont do that to yourself. I looked up his combine numbers. He was 6'6.5"

https://stats.nba.com/draft/combine-anthro/#!?SeasonYear=2003-04
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Post#715 » by greg4012 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:39 pm

twix2500 wrote:
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Again, you ignoring the body type and athleticism. Reddick is smaller than Herro and a lot faster off the ball. Herro is not particullarly fast. He is smart ala Kapono.


...or I see things differently than you. I know you'r the authority on all things. But, perspective does exist.


What do you see different? Kapono and Herro have the same body type and athleticism, ran the same plays. Kapono was actually a more heralded college player.


I see Herro as an average athlete. But I think he's more athletic than Kapono. I see Herro showing a more refined midrange game off the dribble and a better ability to finish at the rim.
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Post#716 » by HeatIn5 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:39 pm

twix2500 wrote:
JustiseForMiami wrote:
twix2500 wrote:He wasnt being used as no dam pick n roll ball handler. He was running off of screens and hand offs. Majority of his game was shooting, even more so than Kapono.



You obviously did not watch Herro then...

see my sig twix


YO I just watch full games of Kapono and Herro. Im watching the full games. Not highlights. I am telling you the Wildcats shy away from Herro as a ball handler when teams press. I cant say that if I am not watching the game.



Trust me I've watched full games too. It also could help that Kentucky had a couple of the best PG's in the country in Hagans and Quickly

But you're right. Herro will definitely struggle against NBA full court press. Because that happens a lot..

They shy away? You're taught to get the ball to your on-ball point guard, or a big in the middle and then break from there. They don't "shy away" They run their press break.

You're nitpicking.

You also went from talking about him as a p&r ball handler to talking about him breaking a press?

Those are 2 very very different things.

You ok twix?
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Post#717 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:40 pm

People just don't understand how good of a shooter Herro was in college. In Herro's first 10 games, he made 28% of his 3s and 85% of his FTs, but in his last 27 games he made 38.7% of his 3s and 95.9% of his FTs. Those are amazing numbers. He might not become a top 20 scorer but he could become a top 10 shooter in the NBA like Steve Nash was.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#718 » by HeatIn5 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:40 pm

twix2500 wrote:
JustiseForMiami wrote:
twix2500 wrote:JJ reddick is 6'4 with a 6'4 wingspan. Herro is 6'6 with a 6'3 wingspan.



and Jason Kapono is 6'8. Can we stop this?



JFM, dont do that to yourself. I looked up his combine numbers. He was 6'6.5"

https://stats.nba.com/draft/combine-anthro/#!?SeasonYear=2003-04


https://www.google.com/search?q=jason+kapono&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS756US756&oq=jason+kapono&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.2101j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


I looked up google. You don't think it's plausible that Kapono grew an inch in 20 years?


EDIT: Twix... come on man... Kapono 6'6.5 without shoes.... How often do guys ball without shoes?
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Post#719 » by Bishop45 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:40 pm

This feels like the Bam apologism after the pick. Woy



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Post#720 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:42 pm

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greg4012 wrote:
...or I see things differently than you. I know you'r the authority on all things. But, perspective does exist.


What do you see different? Kapono and Herro have the same body type and athleticism, ran the same plays. Kapono was actually a more heralded college player.


I see Herro as an average athlete. But I think he's more athletic than Kapono. I see Herro showing a more refined midrange game off the dribble and a better ability to finish at the rim.


Bruh, Kapono ave 3.3 shots made a game at two pointers at 56%. Herro average 3.4 shots made a game at two pointers at 53%. Neither players games were below the 3 point line

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