2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 1: Heat @ Cavs - 7pm EST on 4/20

[Shewasfly]

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1.78 points per possession is WILD.

Need to clean it up

Horrendous.
Tyler needs to have some pride and take it personally. Show up big for the next game.

[carnageta]

Mitchell, Garland, and Ty Jerome hit some difficult shots throughout the match. All of these 'points scored per passion on X player' make me chuckle like they mean something. Jimmy absolutely COOKED Jrue Holiday in 2023, probably averaged 2.00 points per possession against him, but does that make Holiday a bad defender?

It's a 1 game sample size and everyone needs to chill. You can't derive any meaningful stat from 1 game.

Adjustments will be made. Everyone and their mother already knew that Tyler Herro was our weakest defensive player on the floor, which isn't anything to be a shame of when you're sharing the court with Bam, Mitchell, Wiggins, and Highsmith.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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1.78 points per possession is WILD.

Need to clean it up

Yea thats just flat out unacceptable for anyone wearing a Heat jersey. They were dogging him and I was legit feeling bad for him when Jerome was torching him in the 4th and flexing on him. He has to dig deep here, this is a chance for him to grow and he needs to show some pride on that end to do it because if he’s not scoring and playmaking at a high rate on top of that level of defense he is unplayable.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Mitchell, Garland, and Ty Jerome hit some difficult shots throughout the match. All of these 'points scored per passion on X player' make me chuckle like they mean something. Jimmy absolutely COOKED Jrue Holiday in 2023, probably averaged 2.00 points per possession against him, but does that make Holiday a bad defender?

It's a 1 game sample size and everyone needs to chill. You can't derive any meaningful stat from 1 game.

Adjustments will be made. Everyone and their mother already knew that Tyler Herro was our weakest defensive player on the floor, which isn't anything to be a shame of when you're sharing the court with Bam, Mitchell, Wiggins, and Highsmith.

Looks like it was actually at 1.03ppp with Jrue guarding Jimmy; I figured it would’ve been worse like you said. We’ll see how Tyler adjusts for next game and if he takes it personally, he should. Sometimes teams will focus too hard on that matchup though and trying to expose it and it’ll backfire. Hopefully that happens next time

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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We knew it was coming in game but struggled to make the adjustment in game, we’ll see how the Heat counter. Strong hedges off average shooters (could backfire on us), tagging like Canuck has mentioned. I’m not sure. Might even just tell Tyler what we’re saying, have some pride and “guard your yard” as we always say.

[greg4012]

Mitchell, Garland, and Ty Jerome hit some difficult shots throughout the match. All of these 'points scored per passion on X player' make me chuckle like they mean something. Jimmy absolutely COOKED Jrue Holiday in 2023, probably averaged 2.00 points per possession against him, but does that make Holiday a bad defender?

It's a 1 game sample size and everyone needs to chill. You can't derive any meaningful stat from 1 game.

Adjustments will be made. Everyone and their mother already knew that Tyler Herro was our weakest defensive player on the floor, which isn't anything to be a shame of when you're sharing the court with Bam, Mitchell, Wiggins, and Highsmith.

Data usually means something. Context is king. I don't think the context helps explain it away as being anything but a point of vulnerability, but I'm always interested to be further informed.

I expect Herro to be better and schematic adjustments to make it harder for them to get to the mismatch they're hunting (plus sporadic help being sent).

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[Daffy]

Mitchell, Garland, and Ty Jerome hit some difficult shots throughout the match. All of these 'points scored per passion on X player' make me chuckle like they mean something. Jimmy absolutely COOKED Jrue Holiday in 2023, probably averaged 2.00 points per possession against him, but does that make Holiday a bad defender?

It's a 1 game sample size and everyone needs to chill. You can't derive any meaningful stat from 1 game.

Adjustments will be made. Everyone and their mother already knew that Tyler Herro was our weakest defensive player on the floor, which isn't anything to be a shame of when you're sharing the court with Bam, Mitchell, Wiggins, and Highsmith.

Looks like it was actually at 1.03ppp with Jrue guarding Jimmy; I figured it would’ve been worse like you said. We’ll see how Tyler adjusts for next game and if he takes it personally, he should. Sometimes teams will focus too hard on that matchup though and trying to expose it and it’ll backfire. Hopefully that happens next time

To be fair it's probably gonna be the same. If Herro, Bam, Highsmith, Wiggins and Mitchell on the floor who are you going to attack the most? Def Herro. I won't be surprised if it happens again. It players keep going against you and you're already not a strong defender it's gonna wear you down more as well.

[Daffy]

Why did Spo limit Ware so much?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Mitchell, Garland, and Ty Jerome hit some difficult shots throughout the match. All of these 'points scored per passion on X player' make me chuckle like they mean something. Jimmy absolutely COOKED Jrue Holiday in 2023, probably averaged 2.00 points per possession against him, but does that make Holiday a bad defender?

It's a 1 game sample size and everyone needs to chill. You can't derive any meaningful stat from 1 game.

Adjustments will be made. Everyone and their mother already knew that Tyler Herro was our weakest defensive player on the floor, which isn't anything to be a shame of when you're sharing the court with Bam, Mitchell, Wiggins, and Highsmith.

Looks like it was actually at 1.03ppp with Jrue guarding Jimmy; I figured it would’ve been worse like you said. We’ll see how Tyler adjusts for next game and if he takes it personally, he should. Sometimes teams will focus too hard on that matchup though and trying to expose it and it’ll backfire. Hopefully that happens next time

To be fair it's probably gonna be the same. If Herro, Bam, Highsmith, Wiggins and Mitchell on the floor who are you going to attack the most? Def Herro. I won't be surprised if it happens again. It players keep going against you and you're already not a strong defender it's gonna wear you down more as well.

Then he just flat out has to be better. We can’t have him struggling to score/make plays AND giving up a ridiculous amount of points defensively.

[carnageta]

Why did Spo limit Ware so much?

Dear in the headlights. First playoff game as a rook.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Why did Spo limit Ware so much?

He was bad, getting bullied, scored on continuously, didn’t seem engaged, and was like a deer in headlights. We definitely could’ve used him more though

[carnageta]

Looks like it was actually at 1.03ppp with Jrue guarding Jimmy; I figured it would’ve been worse like you said. We’ll see how Tyler adjusts for next game and if he takes it personally, he should. Sometimes teams will focus too hard on that matchup though and trying to expose it and it’ll backfire. Hopefully that happens next time

To be fair it's probably gonna be the same. If Herro, Bam, Highsmith, Wiggins and Mitchell on the floor who are you going to attack the most? Def Herro. I won't be surprised if it happens again. It players keep going against you and you're already not a strong defender it's gonna wear you down more as well.

Then he just flat out has to be better. We can’t have him struggling to score/make plays AND giving up a ridiculous amount of points defensively.

Need Bam to be better too. Can't have him struggling to score (24 points on 22 FGA) while all of the defensive attention is on Herro

[3ammy3uck3ts]

This game was a lot closer than the final score too, the right adjustments could get us a game or 2.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

To be fair it's probably gonna be the same. If Herro, Bam, Highsmith, Wiggins and Mitchell on the floor who are you going to attack the most? Def Herro. I won't be surprised if it happens again. It players keep going against you and you're already not a strong defender it's gonna wear you down more as well.

Then he just flat out has to be better. We can’t have him struggling to score/make plays AND giving up a ridiculous amount of points defensively.

Need Bam to be better too. Can't have him struggling to score (24 points on 22 FGA) while all of the defensive attention is on Herro

As I’ve said in a previous post and let’s pretend the entire defense is just focusing on Herro and letting everyone else roam free lol we both watched the game and that’s nonsense. He outplayed Herro on both ends last night pretty easily but yea he should’ve had 30-35, this isn’t Herro vs Bam though. It’s Heat vs Cavs.

[greg4012]

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Fact of the matter is Miami actually played pretty well. But, pretty well doesn't cut it when CLE is a better/more complete team AND played great ball all night. CLE was the aggressor on both ends.

Miami's margins are very tight.

I was impressed by CLE in game 1. Not to say they're not beatable, but they did not take anything lightly and are hungry to prove themselves in the playoffs.

[greg4012]

To be fair it's probably gonna be the same. If Herro, Bam, Highsmith, Wiggins and Mitchell on the floor who are you going to attack the most? Def Herro. I won't be surprised if it happens again. It players keep going against you and you're already not a strong defender it's gonna wear you down more as well.

Then he just flat out has to be better. We can’t have him struggling to score/make plays AND giving up a ridiculous amount of points defensively.

Need Bam to be better too. Can't have him struggling to score (24 points on 22 FGA) while all of the defensive attention is on Herro

It's always important to deflect & distract when something makes you uncomfortable...

[greg4012]

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[carnageta]

Then he just flat out has to be better. We can’t have him struggling to score/make plays AND giving up a ridiculous amount of points defensively.

Need Bam to be better too. Can't have him struggling to score (24 points on 22 FGA) while all of the defensive attention is on Herro

As I’ve said in a previous post and let’s pretend the entire defense is just focusing on Herro and letting everyone else roam free lol we both watched the game and that’s nonsense. He outplayed Herro on both ends last night pretty easily but yea he should’ve had 30-35, this isn’t Herro vs Bam though. It’s Heat vs Cavs.

I don't think Bam outplayed Herro offensively last night. They both shot basically the same TS% and had nearly the same amount of points, with the defensive scheme of the Cavs entirely being focused on containing Tyler Herro and getting the ball out of his hands.


I agree it's Heat vs Cavs, which is why we shouldn't just single out an individual player (i.e Herro) after a loss. As much as we need defence to be better, we're still not going to beat this Cavs team scoring only 100 points.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Easy to single out Herro but i saw Haywood Highsmith get absolutely roasted last night plenty.