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Nothing beats clip based evidence of how "good" the defense was, when the guy they defended scored 39 points on 78.9% TS
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AirP. wrote:Hello Heat fans! Is this the deadline Miami shocks the world again? (not being sarcastic) I'm seeing the possibility there.
marson wrote:Vertical Limit wrote:I just saw Ja Morant’s stats..
I was told a few days ago i was overrating him, that he is not that good.. that a ja and bam foundation is not worth building around.![]()
The price went up after just one game in which he reminded the league he is still one of the most explosive playmaking guards in the league. He has been injured and has had this lone off year. Always been better than any guard we have had here since 2020.
Hey Pat, go offer Rozier and Simone now![]()
You honestly think a Ja, Bam and Powell core would beat a healthy Pistons and New York team?
Kobewade11 wrote:AirP. wrote:Hello Heat fans! Is this the deadline Miami shocks the world again? (not being sarcastic) I'm seeing the possibility there.
Whats cooking over there AirP. Is GS getting Curry some help?
twix2500 wrote:?s=20
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Crazy-Canuck wrote:This is potentially a disastrous 5 game road trip coming up. With or without Tyler, just getting 2 wins will be tough. 1-4 is a likely possibility.
The schedule makers were drunk on this one. I dont care who the opponents are. Every game is in a bad spot. B2b, 3 in 4, b2b, 3 in 4.
5 games in 7 nights on the road is just brutal. Only the Utah game looks winnable.
Then its a 1 game homestand (which is basically an extension of the road trip), then its another b2b followed by another 3 in 4. All littered with travel plus a b2b2b with the bulls.
Fuxked up, brutal schedule to start the year and now that it eases up (team record wise) we get screwed over by travel/scheduling. Hope they can pull through and take care of business.

Vertical Limit wrote:I just saw Ja Morant’s stats..
I was told a few days ago i was overrating him, that he is not that good.. that a ja and bam foundation is not worth building around.![]()
The price went up after just one game in which he reminded the league he is still one of the most explosive playmaking guards in the league. He has been injured and has had this lone off year. Always been better than any guard we have had here since 2020.
Hey Pat, go offer Rozier and Simone now![]()

AirP. wrote:Kobewade11 wrote:AirP. wrote:Hello Heat fans! Is this the deadline Miami shocks the world again? (not being sarcastic) I'm seeing the possibility there.
Whats cooking over there AirP. Is GS getting Curry some help?
I think GS will be getting Curry, Butler and Green some help although their acquisitions this summer are finally starting to get healthy (Melton and Horford) even though Melton is still on a minute's restriction (I think it's 25 now).
Going off all the rumors and what teams want; I think Miami could have by far the best deadline moves and GS should have a good one too.
This new CBA really adds more calculations in how you can or can't make trades and it's made 2nd round picks highly valuable, especially if you can get a 2nd rounder you think can play to sign a 4-year deal at or near the minimum like GS did with Richard (but not Post, they learned from that).
twix2500 wrote:twix2500 wrote:?s=20
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander stats vs
Andrew Wiggins - 2 gms, 3:56 Matchup Mins, 6 pts, 0 ast, 1 TO, 0 blk, 3 for 10 fg, 30% FG%, 0% 3P%
Pelle Larsson - 2 gms, 9:45 Matchup Mins, 11 pts, 1 ast, 1 TO, 1 blk, 4 for 10, 40% fg%, 1 for 2 3P, 50% 3P%
Davion Mitchell - 1 gm, 1:08 Matchup Mins, 3 pts, 1 for 1 fg, 100% fg%
Tyler Herro - 1 gm, 0:26 Matchup Mins, 4 pts, 2 for 2 fg, 100% fg%, 1 ast
Jaime Jaquez Jr - 1 gm, 1:24 Matchup Mins, 0 pts, 0 for 0, 2 ast
Bam Adebayo - 2 gms, 0:53 Matchup Min, 6 pts, 3 for 3, 100%
Kasparas Jakucionis - Stats are not up yet.
Dru Smith - Stats are not up yet
twix2500 wrote:twix2500 wrote:?s=20
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander stats vs
Andrew Wiggins - 2 gms, 3:56 Matchup Mins, 6 pts, 0 ast, 1 TO, 0 blk, 3 for 10 fg, 30% FG%, 0% 3P%
Pelle Larsson - 2 gms, 9:45 Matchup Mins, 11 pts, 1 ast, 1 TO, 1 blk, 4 for 10, 40% fg%, 1 for 2 3P, 50% 3P%
Davion Mitchell - 1 gm, 1:08 Matchup Mins, 3 pts, 1 for 1 fg, 100% fg%
Tyler Herro - 1 gm, 0:26 Matchup Mins, 4 pts, 2 for 2 fg, 100% fg%, 1 ast
Jaime Jaquez Jr - 1 gm, 1:24 Matchup Mins, 0 pts, 0 for 0, 2 ast
Bam Adebayo - 2 gms, 0:53 Matchup Min, 6 pts, 3 for 3, 100%
Kasparas Jakucionis - Stats are not up yet.
Dru Smith - Stats are not up yet
VaDe255 wrote:twix2500 wrote:twix2500 wrote:?s=20
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander stats vs
Andrew Wiggins - 2 gms, 3:56 Matchup Mins, 6 pts, 0 ast, 1 TO, 0 blk, 3 for 10 fg, 30% FG%, 0% 3P%
Pelle Larsson - 2 gms, 9:45 Matchup Mins, 11 pts, 1 ast, 1 TO, 1 blk, 4 for 10, 40% fg%, 1 for 2 3P, 50% 3P%
Davion Mitchell - 1 gm, 1:08 Matchup Mins, 3 pts, 1 for 1 fg, 100% fg%
Tyler Herro - 1 gm, 0:26 Matchup Mins, 4 pts, 2 for 2 fg, 100% fg%, 1 ast
Jaime Jaquez Jr - 1 gm, 1:24 Matchup Mins, 0 pts, 0 for 0, 2 ast
Bam Adebayo - 2 gms, 0:53 Matchup Min, 6 pts, 3 for 3, 100%
Kasparas Jakucionis - Stats are not up yet.
Dru Smith - Stats are not up yet
So we're now showing clips from one game and then quoting stats from another, what is this!?
Beenie wrote:AirP. wrote:Kobewade11 wrote:Whats cooking over there AirP. Is GS getting Curry some help?
I think GS will be getting Curry, Butler and Green some help although their acquisitions this summer are finally starting to get healthy (Melton and Horford) even though Melton is still on a minute's restriction (I think it's 25 now).
Going off all the rumors and what teams want; I think Miami could have by far the best deadline moves and GS should have a good one too.
This new CBA really adds more calculations in how you can or can't make trades and it's made 2nd round picks highly valuable, especially if you can get a 2nd rounder you think can play to sign a 4-year deal at or near the minimum like GS did with Richard (but not Post, they learned from that).
How’s the game to game chemistry between Steph and Jimmy lookin thus far this season?
AirP. wrote:Butler's buddy Errny replied to a GS fan post that had GS possible targets of MPJ, Murphy III, J.Grant and Wiggins and replied... A bigger unknown name that hasn’t been mentioned…
This got me looking around at who might have a bigger name possibly moving.
Let me walk you through my thought process, I went through a few teams and then came up with this...
Milwaukee
- They're bad and can't contend with Giannis this year and probably the next few years.
- Even if they traded Giannis they can't tank, they've given out way too many swaps, the next 2 years for sure.
- They need talent and draft assets.
Memphis
- We know Morant doesn't want to be there unless he's in charge and that would be very dangerous for Memphis.
- They just moved Bane for picks this summer.
- If they move Ja they'd like some type of asset for Ja and just get some expiring's.
Miami
- Star hunting or maybe not.
Golden State
- Need size
- Wants to have a shot in the West
How do we make everyone happy?
1. Have to convince Milwaukee to trade Giannis and still be ok with upside and draft assets, basically overwhelm them.
2. Memphis needs to move Ja, wants something for him and to get off money, might have to entice them just a bit.
3. Miami wants impact players/stars.
4. Golden state needs size.
So, let's start with Miami.
-> Bam, Herro, Rozier and K.Johnson (Larrson and Jakučionis but I doubt you'd move either before Johnson). Of course draft assets to, some to Milwaukee, maybe 1 to Memphis.
<- Giannis, Ja, Thanasis and one of Memphis' near minimum salaries.
Starters... Ja, Powell, Wiggins, Giannis, Ware
Bench... Mitchell, Jaquez Jr, Larrson, Jakucionis, Jovic, Smith.
Basically, Bam is too old for a Milwaukee rebuild on the run, but Herro isn't, so you need more picks and the need to free up space. Basically, GS would be trading 2-3 1sts, maybe a swap or 2, Kuminga and Moody to help overwhelm Milwaukee. Not many teams can send Milwaukee this much of a package where they aren't completely terrible while not owning their own picks/swaps.
Milwaukee...
-> Giannis, Thanasis, G.Harris
<- Herro, Kuminga and Moody (plus 4-6 1st or swaps)
They get some youth, some potential and picks, some from Miami, some from GS.
GS
-> Kuminga, Moody, Hield and 2-3 1sts and possibly a swap or 2.
<- Bam, G.Harris, K.Johnson
Starters... Curry, Melton, Butler, Green, Bam
Bench... Podz, Richard, GP2, Post, Horford
They'd need to find a backup wing somehow.
Memphis...
-> Ja, near minimum guy
<- Rozier, Hield (both expiring although it cost 3 mil to buy Hield out next year) and some draft compensation from Miami and/or GS.
So, the trade would look like this (just did the player movement, not the draft assets) ...
* There is some wiggle room to make changes to the lower salary players, not much room but some.Spoiler:
Lennyzinho wrote:AirP. wrote:Butler's buddy Errny replied to a GS fan post that had GS possible targets of MPJ, Murphy III, J.Grant and Wiggins and replied... A bigger unknown name that hasn’t been mentioned…
This got me looking around at who might have a bigger name possibly moving.
Let me walk you through my thought process, I went through a few teams and then came up with this...
Milwaukee
- They're bad and can't contend with Giannis this year and probably the next few years.
- Even if they traded Giannis they can't tank, they've given out way too many swaps, the next 2 years for sure.
- They need talent and draft assets.
Memphis
- We know Morant doesn't want to be there unless he's in charge and that would be very dangerous for Memphis.
- They just moved Bane for picks this summer.
- If they move Ja they'd like some type of asset for Ja and just get some expiring's.
Miami
- Star hunting or maybe not.
Golden State
- Need size
- Wants to have a shot in the West
How do we make everyone happy?
1. Have to convince Milwaukee to trade Giannis and still be ok with upside and draft assets, basically overwhelm them.
2. Memphis needs to move Ja, wants something for him and to get off money, might have to entice them just a bit.
3. Miami wants impact players/stars.
4. Golden state needs size.
So, let's start with Miami.
-> Bam, Herro, Rozier and K.Johnson (Larrson and Jakučionis but I doubt you'd move either before Johnson). Of course draft assets to, some to Milwaukee, maybe 1 to Memphis.
<- Giannis, Ja, Thanasis and one of Memphis' near minimum salaries.
Starters... Ja, Powell, Wiggins, Giannis, Ware
Bench... Mitchell, Jaquez Jr, Larrson, Jakucionis, Jovic, Smith.
Basically, Bam is too old for a Milwaukee rebuild on the run, but Herro isn't, so you need more picks and the need to free up space. Basically, GS would be trading 2-3 1sts, maybe a swap or 2, Kuminga and Moody to help overwhelm Milwaukee. Not many teams can send Milwaukee this much of a package where they aren't completely terrible while not owning their own picks/swaps.
Milwaukee...
-> Giannis, Thanasis, G.Harris
<- Herro, Kuminga and Moody (plus 4-6 1st or swaps)
They get some youth, some potential and picks, some from Miami, some from GS.
GS
-> Kuminga, Moody, Hield and 2-3 1sts and possibly a swap or 2.
<- Bam, G.Harris, K.Johnson
Starters... Curry, Melton, Butler, Green, Bam
Bench... Podz, Richard, GP2, Post, Horford
They'd need to find a backup wing somehow.
Memphis...
-> Ja, near minimum guy
<- Rozier, Hield (both expiring although it cost 3 mil to buy Hield out next year) and some draft compensation from Miami and/or GS.
So, the trade would look like this (just did the player movement, not the draft assets) ...
* There is some wiggle room to make changes to the lower salary players, not much room but some.Spoiler:
Well, Miami isn't trading Bam the same way warriors wouldn't trade Steph. I truly believe that. You want to put giannis or ant or Donovan WITH bam. Not trade them for him.
And secondly, if you believe that knucklehead has any insider knowledge at all, he said a bigger name not talked about. Giannis rumors have been talked about to death.
It could be a guy like Siakam or Reaves/LeBron (lakers don't work with them and Luka). LeBron on GSW would be pretty fun. Lauri? Sabonis? Anyway. It'd have to be something like that. Top 30-40 guys that haven't been mentioned much or at all lately in trades and that are better than the likes of Murphy Wiggins MPJ that you mentioned etc.
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Lennyzinho wrote:AirP. wrote:Butler's buddy Errny replied to a GS fan post that had GS possible targets of MPJ, Murphy III, J.Grant and Wiggins and replied... A bigger unknown name that hasn’t been mentioned…
This got me looking around at who might have a bigger name possibly moving.
Let me walk you through my thought process, I went through a few teams and then came up with this...
Milwaukee
- They're bad and can't contend with Giannis this year and probably the next few years.
- Even if they traded Giannis they can't tank, they've given out way too many swaps, the next 2 years for sure.
- They need talent and draft assets.
Memphis
- We know Morant doesn't want to be there unless he's in charge and that would be very dangerous for Memphis.
- They just moved Bane for picks this summer.
- If they move Ja they'd like some type of asset for Ja and just get some expiring's.
Miami
- Star hunting or maybe not.
Golden State
- Need size
- Wants to have a shot in the West
How do we make everyone happy?
1. Have to convince Milwaukee to trade Giannis and still be ok with upside and draft assets, basically overwhelm them.
2. Memphis needs to move Ja, wants something for him and to get off money, might have to entice them just a bit.
3. Miami wants impact players/stars.
4. Golden state needs size.
So, let's start with Miami.
-> Bam, Herro, Rozier and K.Johnson (Larrson and Jakučionis but I doubt you'd move either before Johnson). Of course draft assets to, some to Milwaukee, maybe 1 to Memphis.
<- Giannis, Ja, Thanasis and one of Memphis' near minimum salaries.
Starters... Ja, Powell, Wiggins, Giannis, Ware
Bench... Mitchell, Jaquez Jr, Larrson, Jakucionis, Jovic, Smith.
Basically, Bam is too old for a Milwaukee rebuild on the run, but Herro isn't, so you need more picks and the need to free up space. Basically, GS would be trading 2-3 1sts, maybe a swap or 2, Kuminga and Moody to help overwhelm Milwaukee. Not many teams can send Milwaukee this much of a package where they aren't completely terrible while not owning their own picks/swaps.
Milwaukee...
-> Giannis, Thanasis, G.Harris
<- Herro, Kuminga and Moody (plus 4-6 1st or swaps)
They get some youth, some potential and picks, some from Miami, some from GS.
GS
-> Kuminga, Moody, Hield and 2-3 1sts and possibly a swap or 2.
<- Bam, G.Harris, K.Johnson
Starters... Curry, Melton, Butler, Green, Bam
Bench... Podz, Richard, GP2, Post, Horford
They'd need to find a backup wing somehow.
Memphis...
-> Ja, near minimum guy
<- Rozier, Hield (both expiring although it cost 3 mil to buy Hield out next year) and some draft compensation from Miami and/or GS.
So, the trade would look like this (just did the player movement, not the draft assets) ...
* There is some wiggle room to make changes to the lower salary players, not much room but some.Spoiler:
Well, Miami isn't trading Bam the same way warriors wouldn't trade Steph. I truly believe that. You want to put giannis or ant or Donovan WITH bam. Not trade them for him.
And secondly, if you believe that knucklehead has any insider knowledge at all, he said a bigger name not talked about. Giannis rumors have been talked about to death.
It could be a guy like Siakam or Reaves/LeBron (lakers don't work with them and Luka). LeBron on GSW would be pretty fun. Lauri? Sabonis? Anyway. It'd have to be something like that. Top 30-40 guys that haven't been mentioned much or at all lately in trades and that are better than the likes of Murphy Wiggins MPJ that you mentioned etc.
I would be a fan of LeBron to the warriors, it’d be fun to see that play out with 2 of this eras great rivalries finally teaming up
We will have Giannis Ant or Mitchell in the next 3 years at most
twix2500 wrote:twix2500 wrote:?s=20
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander stats vs
Andrew Wiggins - 2 gms, 3:56 Matchup Mins, 6 pts, 0 ast, 1 TO, 0 blk, 3 for 10 fg, 30% FG%, 0% 3P%
Pelle Larsson - 2 gms, 9:45 Matchup Mins, 11 pts, 1 ast, 1 TO, 1 blk, 4 for 10, 40% fg%, 1 for 2 3P, 50% 3P%
Davion Mitchell - 1 gm, 1:08 Matchup Mins, 3 pts, 1 for 1 fg, 100% fg%
Tyler Herro - 1 gm, 0:26 Matchup Mins, 4 pts, 2 for 2 fg, 100% fg%, 1 ast
Jaime Jaquez Jr - 1 gm, 1:24 Matchup Mins, 0 pts, 0 for 0, 2 ast
Bam Adebayo - 2 gms, 0:53 Matchup Min, 6 pts, 3 for 3, 100%
Kasparas Jakucionis - Stats are not up yet.
Dru Smith - Stats are not up yet