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2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#721 » by greg4012 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:46 pm

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What do you see different? Kapono and Herro have the same body type and athleticism, ran the same plays. Kapono was actually a more heralded college player.


I see Herro as an average athlete. But I think he's more athletic than Kapono. I see Herro showing a more refined midrange game off the dribble and a better ability to finish at the rim.


Bruh, Kapono ave 3.3 shots a game at two pointers. Herro average 3.4 shots a game at two pointers. Neither players thrived below the 3 point line

36% of Herro's offense was midrange jumpers. He converted them at a rate of 46%
23% of Herro's offense was at the rim. He converted at a rate of 64%.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#722 » by contract » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:47 pm

Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:People just don't understand how good of a shooter Herro was in college. In Herro's first 10 games, he made 28% of his 3s and 85% of his FTs, but in his last 27 games he made 38.7% of his 3s and 95.9% of his FTs. Those are amazing numbers. He might not become a top 20 scorer but he could become a top 10 shooter in the NBA like Steve Nash was.

Those are not amazing numbers by any stretch. Even less so when you arrive at them by subtracting his poorer performances.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#723 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:48 pm

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I see Herro as an average athlete. But I think he's more athletic than Kapono. I see Herro showing a more refined midrange game off the dribble and a better ability to finish at the rim.


Bruh, Kapono ave 3.3 shots a game at two pointers. Herro average 3.4 shots a game at two pointers. Neither players thrived below the 3 point line

36% of Herro's offense was midrange jumpers. He converted them at a rate of 46%
23% of Herro's offense was at the rim. He converted at a rate of 64%.



Kapono convert 56% of his 2 pointers, Herro converted 53% of his 2 pointers.
Same dam player, they came off curls
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#724 » by HeatIn5 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:51 pm

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twozeroMM wrote:You guys are wild'n to compare Herro to Kapono. I don't remember Jason driving to the basket like Herro.


Huh, Herro is used off screens. Kentucky did not use Herro as a ball handler. One sign that a team does not herald someone one ball handling is when teams presses. If your coaches remove you from being a ball handler to break the press and stick you in the corner. You are not a ball handler sir, especially if you are a guard.



You've obviously never coached a game in your life. Kentucky lacked shooters.

Breaking a press has little to do with your ball handlers, as you are not DRIBBLING through a press. You pass and cut to break a press.

You are taught against most presses to put your scorers down the court so that the other team is forced to spread out the court (allowing for cut lanes)

If Kentucky puts Hagans or Quickly in the deep court, the opposition could pack in the press, put more pressure and take more risks.

You put a scorer down the court to negate that. It's press break 101.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#725 » by HEATVols865 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:53 pm

I can see Herro hitting 3s and the speakers at AAA playing “I can be your heeeeeroooooo”


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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#726 » by greg4012 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:54 pm

twix2500 wrote:
greg4012 wrote:
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Bruh, Kapono ave 3.3 shots a game at two pointers. Herro average 3.4 shots a game at two pointers. Neither players thrived below the 3 point line

36% of Herro's offense was midrange jumpers. He converted them at a rate of 46%
23% of Herro's offense was at the rim. He converted at a rate of 64%.



Kapono convert 56% of his 2 pointers, Herro converted 53% of his 2 pointers.
Same dam player, they came off curls


Your will to want to be right is way greater than my interest in this comparison. I'd take a Kapono on my team, I see more upside due to better athleticism and better ability to get to spots and convert. Enjoy your Kapono film sessions.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#727 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:57 pm

Jason Kapono - 6'6.5"
3.3 shots made at 2 pointers
56% at 2 pointers
2.2 shots made at 3 pointers
47% at 3 pointers

Tyler Herro - 6'6"
3.4 shots made at 2 pointers
53% at 2 pointers
1.6 shots made at 3 pointers
35% at 3 pointers

I am sorry pimp you are not gonna find a more closer related player in college than Kapono
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#728 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:58 pm

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Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:People just don't understand how good of a shooter Herro was in college. In Herro's first 10 games, he made 28% of his 3s and 85% of his FTs, but in his last 27 games he made 38.7% of his 3s and 95.9% of his FTs. Those are amazing numbers. He might not become a top 20 scorer but he could become a top 10 shooter in the NBA like Steve Nash was.

Those are not amazing numbers by any stretch. Even less so when you arrive at them by subtracting his poorer performances.


How many players who attempted over 50 FTA made 90% or more of their FTA last season?
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#729 » by HeatIn5 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:59 pm

twix2500 wrote:Jason Kapono - 6'6.5"
3.3 shots made at 2 pointers
56% at 2 pointers
2.2 shots made at 3 pointers
47% at 3 pointers

Tyler Herro - 6'6"
3.4 shots made at 2 pointers
53% at 2 pointers
1.6 shots made at 3 pointers
35% at 3 pointers


You gotta love giving one measurement without shoes and one with shoes to make your comparison work.

It's either:

Jason Kapono - 6.6'5
Tyler Herro - 6'4.5

or

Jason Kapono - 6'8
Tyler Herro - 6'6
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#730 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:01 pm

JustiseForMiami wrote:
twix2500 wrote:Jason Kapono - 6'6.5"
3.3 shots made at 2 pointers
56% at 2 pointers
2.2 shots made at 3 pointers
47% at 3 pointers

Tyler Herro - 6'6"
3.4 shots made at 2 pointers
53% at 2 pointers
1.6 shots made at 3 pointers
35% at 3 pointers


You gotta love giving one measurement without shoes and one with shoes to make your comparison work.

It's either:

Jason Kapono - 6.6'5
Tyler Herro - 6'4.5

or

Jason Kapono - 6'8
Tyler Herro - 6'6


Yeah you got me, i swore that said with shoes. My fault there
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#731 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:02 pm

But anyways, I'll let you guys call him Devin Booker.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#732 » by HeatIn5 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:02 pm

twix2500 wrote:
JustiseForMiami wrote:
twix2500 wrote:Jason Kapono - 6'6.5"
3.3 shots made at 2 pointers
56% at 2 pointers
2.2 shots made at 3 pointers
47% at 3 pointers

Tyler Herro - 6'6"
3.4 shots made at 2 pointers
53% at 2 pointers
1.6 shots made at 3 pointers
35% at 3 pointers


You gotta love giving one measurement without shoes and one with shoes to make your comparison work.

It's either:

Jason Kapono - 6.6'5
Tyler Herro - 6'4.5

or

Jason Kapono - 6'8
Tyler Herro - 6'6


Yeah you got me, i swore that said with shoes. My fault there



Me... immediately upon seeing "my fault"

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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#733 » by Rapaz » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:03 pm

A shorter, more mobile Kapono. Excellent value at 32.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#734 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:03 pm

JustiseForMiami wrote:
twix2500 wrote:
JustiseForMiami wrote:
You gotta love giving one measurement without shoes and one with shoes to make your comparison work.

It's either:

Jason Kapono - 6.6'5
Tyler Herro - 6'4.5

or

Jason Kapono - 6'8
Tyler Herro - 6'6


Yeah you got me, i swore that said with shoes. My fault there



Me... immediately upon seeing "my fault"

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Post#735 » by contract » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:03 pm

JustiseForMiami wrote:
twix2500 wrote:
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and Jason Kapono is 6'8. Can we stop this?



JFM, dont do that to yourself. I looked up his combine numbers. He was 6'6.5"

https://stats.nba.com/draft/combine-anthro/#!?SeasonYear=2003-04


https://www.google.com/search?q=jason+kapono&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS756US756&oq=jason+kapono&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.2101j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


I looked up google. You don't think it's plausible that Kapono grew an inch in 20 years?


EDIT: Twix... come on man... Kapono 6'6.5 without shoes.... How often do guys ball without shoes?

People don't generally walk around without shoes either, but when you measure your height, you do it without shoes.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#736 » by CaliHeat » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:04 pm

Kapono was a 4 year player at ucla. Was probably 23 coming out. In that picture that keeps getting posted of Kapono, he has a layer of fat under his arms.

Herro will be more Devin Booker than Kapono. Better conditioned, better ball handler, better skills, comparable shooter.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#737 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:05 pm

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JustiseForMiami wrote:
twix2500 wrote:

JFM, dont do that to yourself. I looked up his combine numbers. He was 6'6.5"

https://stats.nba.com/draft/combine-anthro/#!?SeasonYear=2003-04


https://www.google.com/search?q=jason+kapono&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS756US756&oq=jason+kapono&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.2101j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


I looked up google. You don't think it's plausible that Kapono grew an inch in 20 years?


EDIT: Twix... come on man... Kapono 6'6.5 without shoes.... How often do guys ball without shoes?

People don't generally walk around without shoes either, but when you measure your height, you do it without shoes.


Without shoes is your true height. Rarely you get measurements with shoes. You do not always wear the same shoes. When you go get a physical they tell you to take your shoes off.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#738 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:06 pm

CaliHeat wrote:Kapono was a 4 year player at ucla. Was probably 23 coming out. In that picture that keeps getting posted of Kapono, he has a layer of fat under his arms.

Herro will be more Devin Booker than Kapono. Better conditioned, better ball handler, better skills, comparable shooter.


Kapono had saggy women hips too :lol:
lawd this imaginary ball handling thing you guys are forcing on Herro :lol:
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#739 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:07 pm

Bam=Tristan Thompson now Tyler Herro=Jason Kapono?
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