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Keep it coming MWP! Love all these guys.
Stark contrast to the 2015 draft where I didn't see much to like outside of the top 10. This draft is deep deep.
Stark contrast to the 2015 draft where I didn't see much to like outside of the top 10. This draft is deep deep.
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Still holding out hope for a slider. #20 is a decent change to find one. Someone like Achiuwa, Williams, Bey or Vassell would be perfect, but I think that's a long shot.
Based on Riley's comments, do we see it as more or less likely that we keep this pick? Given we don't have a 2021 FRP, and we're an "every other year draft team", is it likely we keep this year because of the pick owed, or will we view KZ as our FRP for this year?
Hard to tell.
The fact we're looking at Nnaji, Flynn and the like makes me think we may trade back into the 2nd round though. Would be a Heat type move to save some guaranteed salary.
Based on Riley's comments, do we see it as more or less likely that we keep this pick? Given we don't have a 2021 FRP, and we're an "every other year draft team", is it likely we keep this year because of the pick owed, or will we view KZ as our FRP for this year?
Hard to tell.
The fact we're looking at Nnaji, Flynn and the like makes me think we may trade back into the 2nd round though. Would be a Heat type move to save some guaranteed salary.
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Wiltside wrote:Still holding out hope for a slider. #20 is a decent change to find one. Someone like Achiuwa, Williams, Bey or Vassell would be perfect, but I think that's a long shot.
Based on Riley's comments, do we see it as more or less likely that we keep this pick? Given we don't have a 2021 FRP, and we're an "every other year draft team", is it likely we keep this year because of the pick owed, or will we view KZ as our FRP for this year?
Hard to tell.
The fact we're looking at Nnaji, Flynn and the like makes me think we may trade back into the 2nd round though. Would be a Heat type move to save some guaranteed salary.
Have a feeling we keep the pick and use it on a big man even though i have been pushing early for the KY guards. KO will be put on the block if he opts in and Meyers Leonard will be resigned for depth. I think Riley saw us get way too small during the playoffs and it always felt we were one Bam injury away from doom in the front court. Nnaji is projected to go in the mid 20's so it's not surprising we would be looking at him. I would not trust any mock drafts or projections right now. Heat will draft the player they like in that spot even if mock has him going much later. Technically they would have taken KZ Okpala last year if Tyler Herro was off the board in the first.
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Nnaji is a baby with a grown ass man NBA body already. I had not seen much of him as I have been concentrating on Smith and Oturu but I could see the Heat being enamored with the potential here. Nnaji and Bam front court sounds like a nightmare on opposing teams and if you add Giannis to the mix mother of god. I'm honestly impressed with Nnaji's stroke from 3 in that pre draft workout. He also looks like a crazy athletic big man for that size. He mentions in the video what separates him from other big men in this draft is his ability to switch on defense. That's music to the Heat's ears.
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Id rathr us get someone that has a chance to by dynamic from a 1st round pick and role player from second round pick but I see the appeal of NNaji. Mannion said he was very consistent in practice and a hard worker. consistent. I want to see what the handles are like, in todays game everyone needs to be able to handle the ball. We are going to have so many options at 20 its going to be exciting and frustrating at the same time.
1. Herro 2. Bol Bol 3. Seko 4. Bruno
unless we trade up for Barrett or trade down for PJ Washington
unless we trade up for Barrett or trade down for PJ Washington
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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Nnaji is a baby with a grown ass man NBA body already. I had not seen much of him as I have been concentrating on Smith and Oturu but I could see the Heat being enamored with the potential here. Nnaji and Bam front court sounds like a nightmare on opposing teams and if you add Giannis to the mix mother of god. I'm honestly impressed with Nnaji's stroke from 3 in that pre draft workout. He also looks like a crazy athletic big man for that size. He mentions in the video what separates him from other big men in this draft is his ability to switch on defense. That's music to the Heat's ears.
His not that athletic, lack explosiveness, looks a bit mechanical with his move, but plays with good energy, he is Jordan Hill reincarntion. Oturu and Smith seem to have more upside talent wise. I put nnaji with reggie perry they are very close and similar...

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dolphinatik wrote:Id rathr us get someone that has a chance to by dynamic from a 1st round pick and role player from second round pick but I see the appeal of NNaji. Mannion said he was very consistent in practice and a hard worker. consistent. I want to see what the handles are like, in todays game everyone needs to be able to handle the ball. We are going to have so many options at 20 its going to be exciting and frustrating at the same time.
This is so true. Look at how incredible Bam has become with those handles and vision.
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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Have a feeling we keep the pick and use it on a big man even though i have been pushing early for the KY guards. KO will be put on the block if he opts in and Meyers Leonard will be resigned for depth. I think Riley saw us get way too small during the playoffs and it always felt we were one Bam injury away from doom in the front court. Nnaji is projected to go in the mid 20's so it's not surprising we would be looking at him. I would not trust any mock drafts or projections right now. Heat will draft the player they like in that spot even if mock has him going much later. Technically they would have taken KZ Okpala last year if Tyler Herro was off the board in the first.
I hope we don't just pick a big because we need size. I think always draft for BPA rather than need. We can address our lack of size in FA to fill out the roster.
Given we're also looking at 'future fit', I'd like to think we're looking closely at 3&D and shooters also. Any team with Jimmy, Bam and (hopefully) Giannis is going to need shooters, so I think additional backcourt help is probably the most likely scenario.
Tyrell Terry may well get a good look from us. Given we drafted KZ last year, we're obviously familiar and comfortable with the Stanford program. While defensively a backcourt of Terry and Herro gives me shudders, the spacing ability when paired with Jimmy, Bam and (again, hopefully) Giannis would be welcome.
Quickley may well be the guy given his shot making ability, length and defensive upside.
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Saw a recent mock that has Mia taking Aaron Nesmith.
Supposedly, he's the best shooter in the draft.
In that hypothetical, Mia could develop Nesmith which would make Duncan expendable.
Supposedly, he's the best shooter in the draft.
In that hypothetical, Mia could develop Nesmith which would make Duncan expendable.
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MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Very interesting prospect for us. I'm good with any of the Kentucky guys. Especially in a year that was cut short. Trust what you know and trust coach Cal. I'm not enamored by any of the bigs in this draft I like Jalen Smith and Oturu but I'm taking the best guard over those guys cause that's what's going to be BPA. We need a stout defender to compliment Herro in that backcourt and I believe Maxey or Quickley can provide that. I still like Quickley as a shooter a lot more.
I'm generally anti-big unless it's a really good player. I don't know many of the bigs in this draft, but from what I see I don't know if there's really any exceptional talent. I'd roll the dice for a guard/wing if we have decent choices
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Beenie wrote:Saw a recent mock that has Mia taking Aaron Nesmith.
Supposedly, he's the best shooter in the draft.
In that hypothetical, Mia could develop Nesmith which would make Duncan expendable.
Two things you could never have too much of in the league: shooters, ballhandlers
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The wing players are weak in this draft. Its PG or centers.Bishop45 wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Very interesting prospect for us. I'm good with any of the Kentucky guys. Especially in a year that was cut short. Trust what you know and trust coach Cal. I'm not enamored by any of the bigs in this draft I like Jalen Smith and Oturu but I'm taking the best guard over those guys cause that's what's going to be BPA. We need a stout defender to compliment Herro in that backcourt and I believe Maxey or Quickley can provide that. I still like Quickley as a shooter a lot more.
I'm generally anti-big unless it's a really good player. I don't know many of the bigs in this draft, but from what I see I don't know if there's really any exceptional talent. I'd roll the dice for a guard/wing if we have decent choices
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So far I like Maxey, Terry, Lewis, and I'd take a chance on either of Cassius Stanley, Josh Green, or Nesmith if backed into a corner
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\MettaWorldPanda wrote:Immanuel Quickley drawing heavy interest from NBA teams
By CHRIS FISHER Oct 21, 12:00 PM
NBA teams looking to cash in on the next Tyler Herro with a draft night steal may want to look once again at the University of Kentucky and to Herro's former teammate Immanuel Quickley.
The SEC Newcomer of the Year in 2018-19, Herro was projected as a first round pick but continued to rise up draft boards before being selected at No. 13 overall by the Miami Heat in the 2019 NBA Draft.
Herro was good during the regular season, where he was named to the NBA All-Rookie Second Team. He was even better in the playoffs, breaking a 44-year-old NBA playoff rookie scoring record by reaching double-figures in 20 straight games, including a career-high 37 vs. the Boston Celtics in Game 4 of the Eastern Conference Finals, in helping lead the Heat to its first finals appearance since 2014.
After averaging just 5.2 points per game as a freshman, Quickley led the Wildcats in scoring (16.1 ppg), made 3-pointers (62), 3-point percentage (.428), free throws made (144), attempted (156) and free three percentage (.923) on his way to becoming the fifth SEC Player of the Year under head coach John Calipari.
Quickley, who was one of five Wildcats to receive an invitation to the annual NBA Draft Scouting Combine, is projected anywhere from a late first to late second round pick by most mock drafts.
According to Forbes' Adam Zagoria, Quickley has met twice with the New York Knicks, who hold the Nos. 8, 27, and 38 picks in the 2020 NBA Draft, Detroit Pistons (No. 7), and Oklahoma City Thunder (Nos. 25 and 53). He's also met with the Brooklyn Nets, Boston Celtics, Los Angeles Lakers, Los Angeles Clippers, Atlanta Hawks, Utah Jazz, Milwaukee Bucks, Orlando Magic, Phoenix Suns and New Orleans Pelicans.
hat changed Kentucky's season. After switching to a three-guard lineup in a win at Arkansas on Jan. 18, the Wildcats won 13 of its final 15 games.
But it was his 18-point performance in a 78-70 overtime win over archrival Louisville that changed Quickley's season. From that point forward, Quickley ended the year with 20 consecutive double-digit scoring games, the longest streak by a Wildcat since Malik Monk (30) in 2016-17, and hit at least one 3-pointer in his last 11 games, including a career-high eight en route to a 30-point performance in a win at Texas A&M.
Quickley helped lead Kentucky to a 25-6 record overall and a 15-3 mark in the SEC to bring home UK's sixth regular season conference title in the Calipari era. He declared for the 2020 NBA Draft on April 13 and announced he would forego his remaining two years of eligibility.
He signed with Roc Nation Sports in mid-May.
Under Calipari, no school has produced more No. 1 overall picks (3), top-10 picks (13), lottery picks (21), first round picks (29) and total NBA Draft picks (38) than the Wildcats since 2010.
UK has had at least one player selected in 12 straight NBA Drafts, the longest streak of any school in the country. During his tenure, Calipari has produced at least one lottery pick in the last 10 NBA Drafts and multiple lottery picks seven times including four of the last five years.
The 2020 NBA Draft will be held virtually on Wednesday, Nov. 18.
His combination of high 3 point rate, very high FT% + 3 point% AND high FT rate makes him super interesting. Tha'ts a rare combination.
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I highly doubt Nesmith will be even close to our range. Stanley is a Dorel Wright type of project. What do you like about Green? He seems very average, not great at anything just average all over. He also doesn't fit your mode of player, a ballhandler top of key type guy.Bishop45 wrote:So far I like Maxey, Terry, Lewis, and I'd take a chance on either of Cassius Stanley, Josh Green, or Nesmith if backed into a corner
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A guy who I've been doing a little reading/film review on is Desmond Bane.
6'6", 215lbs but has a reported 6'4.5" wingspan. The ol' T-rex, which we seem to have a penchant for (Olynyk, Herro also sport negative wingspans). He has a body shape a little like Malcolm Brogdon, very solidly built and athletic. Not sure if the actual combine measurements are available, anyone have a resource for this?
Averaged 16.6ppg, 6.3rpg, 3.9apg, 1.5spg, 0.5bpg, 2.3tpg in 36.0mpg on 45.2%fg, 44.2% 3fg (2.9 threes made per) and 78.9%ft in his Senior year at TCU.
Stroke looks compact albeit a little unorthodox. Has improved every year at college level and shoots a very high clip on a large amounts of attempts. He can catch and shoot, come off the curl as well as attack the close out and create off the dribble. Looks to be reasonably athletic too. His Senior year was the first year he didn't shoot 50% from the floor, but still had a TS% of 57% (first year below 60% TS%).
Positives:
- NBA ready body and size.
- Can handle and create, assist % increased this year.
- One of the better shooters in the draft (2.9 3's per), but also solid defensively and can attack a close out.
Negatives:
- Small wingspan could limit defensive upside.
- Draft age; he's already 22 years old so upside may be limited.
- Low free throw rate (1.8 FT's in 36mpg). Could be due to the small wingspan and struggling to finish inside.
Projects to be a solid guard at the next level, reasonably versatile and has a quality 3pt stroke that will be what helps him stick. Reminds me a little of a more efficient Josh Hart, or best case would be a more 2 guard version of someone like Brogdon.
6'6", 215lbs but has a reported 6'4.5" wingspan. The ol' T-rex, which we seem to have a penchant for (Olynyk, Herro also sport negative wingspans). He has a body shape a little like Malcolm Brogdon, very solidly built and athletic. Not sure if the actual combine measurements are available, anyone have a resource for this?
Averaged 16.6ppg, 6.3rpg, 3.9apg, 1.5spg, 0.5bpg, 2.3tpg in 36.0mpg on 45.2%fg, 44.2% 3fg (2.9 threes made per) and 78.9%ft in his Senior year at TCU.
Stroke looks compact albeit a little unorthodox. Has improved every year at college level and shoots a very high clip on a large amounts of attempts. He can catch and shoot, come off the curl as well as attack the close out and create off the dribble. Looks to be reasonably athletic too. His Senior year was the first year he didn't shoot 50% from the floor, but still had a TS% of 57% (first year below 60% TS%).
Positives:
- NBA ready body and size.
- Can handle and create, assist % increased this year.
- One of the better shooters in the draft (2.9 3's per), but also solid defensively and can attack a close out.
Negatives:
- Small wingspan could limit defensive upside.
- Draft age; he's already 22 years old so upside may be limited.
- Low free throw rate (1.8 FT's in 36mpg). Could be due to the small wingspan and struggling to finish inside.
Projects to be a solid guard at the next level, reasonably versatile and has a quality 3pt stroke that will be what helps him stick. Reminds me a little of a more efficient Josh Hart, or best case would be a more 2 guard version of someone like Brogdon.
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Nnaji is an easy no, he plays no defense.
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Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:Nnaji is an easy no, he plays no defense.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcats/basketball/pascoe/zeke-nnaji-also-helping-arizona-wildcats-strong-interior-defense-so-far/article_6386522e-0b17-11ea-9f8c-bf68ca88c09f.amp.html