Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1

[MorbidHEAT]

I'm on the fence and could be convinced either way on the Herro/Duncan for Ingram thing. I've always liked Ingram's game as like an ultimate role player who can provide consistent potent offense as your 3rd best player, and my gut wants to convince me that Herro's game will eventually fall off at some point. But if we did that trade then we'd still have to bring in a 3pt shooting specialist to play 25-30 mpg because we'd essentially be trading 2 shooters for 1 (assuming Duncan eventually snaps out of it). Perhaps Strus can be that guy in an elevated role off the bench with Herro gone, and Dipo can replace Herro's 6th man volume scoring

Yea man Dipo is the wild card in all of it. If he’s himself he can provide literally everything, there’s nothing he isn’t good at and it would ease the blow if losing Herro. Strus is ready imo

If he comes back as Dipo...we are a dangerous team. We would be very very hard to score on depending on the lineups we put out there.

[harlem_ball]

First, the ages aren't that far off, Herro turns 22 in January, Ingram turned 24 in September, about a 2 1/2 year difference. Secondly just Ingram's size and length gives him an advantage on defense to be shaped into a better overall player on defense.

I believe the reason Ingram is brought up is because he is the only possible higher-level player that could be available for what Miami has since the Pels have shown interest in Robinson and you'd expect they'd have more interest in Herro. Adding 2 good outside shooters to a team with Zion is a smart way to go, especially if you don't think Ingram and Zion can mesh well.

Pelis have no chance of prying the future of the Heat franchise for B I

If BI were worthy he would be winning right now without Zion. BI is a future role player. He's a Harrison Barnes.

Weird, it seems that without Butler this team looks like one of the worst teams in the league, last year and this year. Recently Denver was missing 2 max players when they beat Miami in Miami.

Would you trade a young Booker for Harrison Barnes? That's basically what you're looking to do. Heat don't have much shooting as it is. Firm no from me, dawg.

[AirP.]

That's why you're sending out Duncan with him. At the very least Ingram has length, shoots well and can create his own shot.

I've heard aesthetics, length, and shooting ability...but can you win with him? Can he be the center piece of a team with championship aspirations? Can he make a team better? If the answer to the questions are no, that's not a guy I'm moving Herro for.

We haven’t seen him out in the position to do that though tbh. Young Lakers team then this pelicans team that Zion is always out. People thought the same about Wiggins but look at him now. I think Ingram would be a huge boost, especially to the starting lineup over Duncan

Wiggins had 2 issues, he loved taking long 2s and consistently losing focus on defense but ownership was scared to push him to fix that. Thibs tried to hide him in the corner with Butler and Towns but he just tossed up long 2s anytime he could. There was a good player in Wiggins but he wasn't going to be able to be pushed to be better till he got out from Minnesota's ownership.

Minnesota's ownership wouldn't allow Thibodeau to trade Wiggins for Butler (the logical trade was Wiggins and Dunn) and instead said LaVine could be moved since he was going to be out at least half a season and the owner (Glen Taylor) wanted to break the playoff drought (13 years). Next the owner only wanted to ask Wiggins in person if he'll work on getting better, a simple yes got Wiggins a max contract from the owner. Ownership matters! Luckily for Minnesota fans, Glen Taylor is on the way out.

[BenoUdrihFTL]

Wonder what the deal is with Danuel House in Houston. He's only getting 13.7 mpg right now and makes $3.9 this season. He's 6'6" 220 lbs so an ideal center for Spo who hustles on D and has been decent from 3 for his career

[harlem_ball]

Wonder what the deal is with Danuel House in Houston. He's only getting 13.7 mpg right now and makes $3.9 this season. He's 6'6" 220 lbs so an ideal center for Spo who hustles on D and has been decent from 3 for his career

staaahhpppp

[Dc__20]

If heat can manage a 4/5 seed in chill. The reason I’m not worried is because of quality of ball they were playing with new guys at the start of the season, even the preseason

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I'm on the fence and could be convinced either way on the Herro/Duncan for Ingram thing. I've always liked Ingram's game as like an ultimate role player who can provide consistent potent offense as your 3rd best player, and my gut wants to convince me that Herro's game will eventually fall off at some point. But if we did that trade then we'd still have to bring in a 3pt shooting specialist to play 25-30 mpg because we'd essentially be trading 2 shooters for 1 (assuming Duncan eventually snaps out of it). Perhaps Strus can be that guy in an elevated role off the bench with Herro gone, and Dipo can replace Herro's 6th man volume scoring

Yea man Dipo is the wild card in all of it. If he’s himself he can provide literally everything, there’s nothing he isn’t good at and it would ease the blow if losing Herro. Strus is ready imo

If he comes back as Dipo...we are a dangerous team. We would be very very hard to score on depending on the lineups we put out there.

I agree, I think we would have to start him or Herro and move Duncan to the bench. Maybe it’ll help Duncan and the team

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Wonder what the deal is with Danuel House in Houston. He's only getting 13.7 mpg right now and makes $3.9 this season. He's 6'6" 220 lbs so an ideal center for Spo who hustles on D and has been decent from 3 for his career

staaahhpppp

He would 100% be a solid pick up lol

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Pelis have no chance of prying the future of the Heat franchise for B I

If BI were worthy he would be winning right now without Zion. BI is a future role player. He's a Harrison Barnes.

Weird, it seems that without Butler this team looks like one of the worst teams in the league, last year and this year. Recently Denver was missing 2 max players when they beat Miami in Miami.

Would you trade a young Booker for Harrison Barnes? That's basically what you're looking to do. Heat don't have much shooting as it is. Firm no from me, dawg.

No it’s not lol

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I've heard aesthetics, length, and shooting ability...but can you win with him? Can he be the center piece of a team with championship aspirations? Can he make a team better? If the answer to the questions are no, that's not a guy I'm moving Herro for.

We haven’t seen him out in the position to do that though tbh. Young Lakers team then this pelicans team that Zion is always out. People thought the same about Wiggins but look at him now. I think Ingram would be a huge boost, especially to the starting lineup over Duncan

Wiggins had 2 issues, he loved taking long 2s and consistently losing focus on defense but ownership was scared to push him to fix that. Thibs tried to hide him in the corner with Butler and Towns but he just tossed up long 2s anytime he could. There was a good player in Wiggins but he wasn't going to be able to be pushed to be better till he got out from Minnesota's ownership.

Minnesota's ownership wouldn't allow Thibodeau to trade Wiggins for Butler (the logical trade was Wiggins and Dunn) and instead said LaVine could be moved since he was going to be out at least half a season and the owner (Glen Taylor) wanted to break the playoff drought (13 years). Next the owner only wanted to ask Wiggins in person if he'll work on getting better, a simple yes got Wiggins a max contract from the owner. Ownership matters! Luckily for Minnesota fans, Glen Taylor is on the way out.

Yessir I agree and it may be the same for Ingram.

If you added Ingram next to Lowry Jimmy Bam and Tucker in the starting lineup the narrative that he’s an elite defender would pick up because his length and athleticism would just be nuts next to those guys

[harlem_ball]

Weird, it seems that without Butler this team looks like one of the worst teams in the league, last year and this year. Recently Denver was missing 2 max players when they beat Miami in Miami.

Would you trade a young Booker for Harrison Barnes? That's basically what you're looking to do. Heat don't have much shooting as it is. Firm no from me, dawg.

No it’s not lol

Do you work for the Pelicans? AirP = Air Pelicans?

Cuz that trade is highway robbery.

[MorbidHEAT]

Yea man Dipo is the wild card in all of it. If he’s himself he can provide literally everything, there’s nothing he isn’t good at and it would ease the blow if losing Herro. Strus is ready imo

If he comes back as Dipo...we are a dangerous team. We would be very very hard to score on depending on the lineups we put out there.

I agree, I think we would have to start him or Herro and move Duncan to the bench. Maybe it’ll help Duncan and the team

I'm ok with
Lowry
Dipo
Butler
Tucker
Bam

If Dipo is Dipo, there may be enough scoring there. I would keep Tyler on the bench for now until he is better able to draw fouls and also because if he is moved out of the bench, then the bench is pretty weak in terms of scoring and play making. Duncan is in charge of his future right now. If he starts being Duncan again and can make 2- 4 threes in the 1st quarter like he should be, then he stays in the starting lineup, in my opinion.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Would you trade a young Booker for Harrison Barnes? That's basically what you're looking to do. Heat don't have much shooting as it is. Firm no from me, dawg.

No it’s not lol

Do you work for the Pelicans? AirP = Air Pelicans?

Cuz that trade is highway robbery.

What time did you start today?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

If he comes back as Dipo...we are a dangerous team. We would be very very hard to score on depending on the lineups we put out there.

I agree, I think we would have to start him or Herro and move Duncan to the bench. Maybe it’ll help Duncan and the team

I'm ok with
Lowry
Dipo
Butler
Tucker
Bam

If Dipo is Dipo, there may be enough scoring there. I would keep Tyler on the bench for now until he is better able to draw fouls and also because if he is moved out of the bench, then the bench is pretty weak in terms of scoring and play making. Duncan is in charge of his future right now. If he starts being Duncan again and can make 2- 4 threes in the 1st quarter like he should be, then he stays in the starting lineup, in my opinion.

I’d be fine with that, obviously best case scenario is Duncan returns to form

[AirP.]

Would you trade a young Booker for Harrison Barnes? That's basically what you're looking to do. Heat don't have much shooting as it is. Firm no from me, dawg.

No it’s not lol

Do you work for the Pelicans? AirP = Air Pelicans?

Cuz that trade is highway robbery.

That great reply was to the wrong person.

[Flash4thewin]

I'm on the fence and could be convinced either way on the Herro/Duncan for Ingram thing. I've always liked Ingram's game as like an ultimate role player who can provide consistent potent offense as your 3rd best player, and my gut wants to convince me that Herro's game will eventually fall off at some point. But if we did that trade then we'd still have to bring in a 3pt shooting specialist to play 25-30 mpg because we'd essentially be trading 2 shooters for 1 (assuming Duncan eventually snaps out of it). Perhaps Strus can be that guy in an elevated role off the bench with Herro gone, and Dipo can replace Herro's 6th man volume scoring

Yea man Dipo is the wild card in all of it. If he’s himself he can provide literally everything, there’s nothing he isn’t good at and it would ease the blow if losing Herro. Strus is ready imo

If he is healthy he will be looking to get paid, he only signed a one year deal here for the vet min. We are near the luxury cap as it is, unless you think Micky is going to pay $$$ for this team I just dont see it.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I'm on the fence and could be convinced either way on the Herro/Duncan for Ingram thing. I've always liked Ingram's game as like an ultimate role player who can provide consistent potent offense as your 3rd best player, and my gut wants to convince me that Herro's game will eventually fall off at some point. But if we did that trade then we'd still have to bring in a 3pt shooting specialist to play 25-30 mpg because we'd essentially be trading 2 shooters for 1 (assuming Duncan eventually snaps out of it). Perhaps Strus can be that guy in an elevated role off the bench with Herro gone, and Dipo can replace Herro's 6th man volume scoring

Yea man Dipo is the wild card in all of it. If he’s himself he can provide literally everything, there’s nothing he isn’t good at and it would ease the blow if losing Herro. Strus is ready imo

If he is healthy he will be looking to get paid, he only signed a one year deal here for the vet min. We are near the luxury cap as it is, unless you think Micky is going to pay $$$ for this team I just dont see it.

I’m only talking this season

[Kobewade11]

We haven’t seen him out in the position to do that though tbh. Young Lakers team then this pelicans team that Zion is always out. People thought the same about Wiggins but look at him now. I think Ingram would be a huge boost, especially to the starting lineup over Duncan

Huh? When GS has their full cast healthy Wiggins is the 3rd or 4th best player on that team. Lets trade Herro for Wiggins next.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

We haven’t seen him out in the position to do that though tbh. Young Lakers team then this pelicans team that Zion is always out. People thought the same about Wiggins but look at him now. I think Ingram would be a huge boost, especially to the starting lineup over Duncan

Huh? When GS has their full cast healthy Wiggins is the 3rd or 4th best player on that team. Lets trade Herro for Wiggins next.

Ingram is better than both.

[contract]

I'm on the fence and could be convinced either way on the Herro/Duncan for Ingram thing. I've always liked Ingram's game as like an ultimate role player who can provide consistent potent offense as your 3rd best player, and my gut wants to convince me that Herro's game will eventually fall off at some point. But if we did that trade then we'd still have to bring in a 3pt shooting specialist to play 25-30 mpg because we'd essentially be trading 2 shooters for 1 (assuming Duncan eventually snaps out of it). Perhaps Strus can be that guy in an elevated role off the bench with Herro gone, and Dipo can replace Herro's 6th man volume scoring

Yea man Dipo is the wild card in all of it. If he’s himself he can provide literally everything, there’s nothing he isn’t good at and it would ease the blow if losing Herro. Strus is ready imo

If he is healthy he will be looking to get paid, he only signed a one year deal here for the vet min. We are near the luxury cap as it is, unless you think Micky is going to pay $$$ for this team I just dont see it.

Cap money is from the players share of revenue. Luxury and repeater taxes come out of the owner's pocket. The way Carnival stock has tanked the past couple of years, I really don't see it.