2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 3

[Kobewade11]

Serious question is Minnesota an option?

Never mind, the Timberwolves are a 2nd apron team. Ooof

No idea what the restrictions are for 2nd apron teams, but this trade works financially:

Miami gets J Randle, A Wiggins, G Payton II
Minnesota gets Kuminga and D Robinson
Golden St gets J Butler and P Reed
Piston gets Looney and some draft consideration/cash for taking Looney

P Reed doesn't need to be included, but I assume Golden St would appreciate having a big body to replace Looney.


Bam / Love / Ware
Randle / Jovic
Wiggins / JJJ / Larsson
Highsmith / Rozier / Burks
Herro / Payton II / J Richardson

[jbsays]

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Damn, so we were star hunting to add to the team but it’s now taken a turn for the worst, they probably wouldn’t have been able to get it done anyways

lol they have been star hunting for the past decade. This is the equivalent of water is wet.

Constant reminder that the Heat still won’t accept the reality of the new nba. Outrageous money greatly outweighs the pull of the south beach lifestyle as painful as it is to accept as a long time Heat fan. The bringing in a whale for nothing days are long gone

Have Heat ever brought in awhile for nothing. From what I recall...

Hardaway: Was coming off surgery were he missed a year. Had a career resurgence with Heat.

Zo: Had issues with LJ and rejected an extension from Hornets. Hornets traded for him for a package that included Glen Rice who was still an Allstar at the time.

Overpaid guys like Brian Grant, Eddie Jones, and Lamar Odom. All good players, but I'm pretty sure Heat offered them the most money. Would have also been the case for Juwan Howard.

Shaq: Traded for him with a decent package (Odom, Caron Butler, and Grant). He had issues with Kobe, so LA had to move one of them.

Butler: Didn't Heat offer him a longer max than 76ers?

I guess Lebron and Bosh came for nothing, but that was a once in a lifetime thing. How many times has that happened in the NBA were a team added two All NBA players in a single season? A couple of times?

[wade44]

lol they have been star hunting for the past decade. This is the equivalent of water is wet.

Constant reminder that the Heat still won’t accept the reality of the new nba. Outrageous money greatly outweighs the pull of the south beach lifestyle as painful as it is to accept as a long time Heat fan. The bringing in a whale for nothing days are long gone

Have Heat ever brought in awhile for nothing. From what I recall...

Hardaway: Was coming off surgery were he missed a year. Had a career resurgence with Heat.

Zo: Had issues with LJ and rejected an extension from Hornets. Hornets traded for him for a package that included Glen Rice who was still an Allstar at the time.

Overpaid guys like Brian Grant, Eddie Jones, and Lamar Odom. All good players, but I'm pretty sure Heat offered them the most money. Would have also been the case for Juwan Howard.

Shaq: Traded for him with a decent package (Odom, Caron Butler, and Grant). He had issues with Kobe, so LA had to move one of them.

Butler: Didn't Heat offer him a longer max than 76ers?

I guess Lebron and Bosh came for nothing, but that was a once in a lifetime thing. How many times has that happened in the NBA were a team added two All NBA players in a single season? A couple of times?

Well that would apply to the big 3 era and Jimmy. The main idea though is free agency is dead for whales in the nba. You either draft them or trade all of your future 1st rounders for them now

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[powerball1373]

Send him somewhere like the Toronto team that rented Kawhi for a year and got a championship. They were one vet away from getting to the Finals. I don't think GSW is that team this year. OKC could be. NYK could be. PHI might be. MEM perhaps.

IDGAF about doing him any favors. Send him wherever we get the best return and let him deal with it.

I understand the attitude, but you have to understand that he's 35, he's got another $80 million guaranteed coming if he wants it, and he wants an extension.

A team will not give much for a rental. Especially an unhappy rental.

The only chance of getting a decent return for him is a team that intends to extend him, although not at the numbers he's been talking about, and Jimmy agreeing to it. There's no way that would be tanking team. It doesn't make business sense for a tanking team to commit to 3 more years for a guy that is already 35.

I wouldn't be surprised if there's no deal to be had with anyone. This happened at a bad time for everyone involved. Most everyone is maxed out. The new CBA makes it harder to absorb more salary than goes out. This is FUBAR.

I think we are saying the same thing hah. I wasn't saying we should send him to a chit team out of spite, just send him wherever we get the best return. But it would be a bonus if that happened to be a chit team

[Enso]

Warriors would def like to grab him they need a piece yesterday with curry’s window closing, they just want him for the bare minimum.

[Rapaz]

Warriors would def like to grab him they need a piece yesterday with curry’s window closing, they just want him for the bare minimum.

They’re trying to pull a Pat Riley Special.

[HeatIn5]

Heat receive - Reaves, Rui, Vanderbilt, Gabe, 29 1st, 31 1st

Lakers receive - Jimmy, JRich

Who says no?

[DayofMourning]

I dont know why you are all getting caught up in what teams say or dont say on social media. Riley said hes not trading Butler!

[AirP.]

Miami has 14 of the 15 active roster spots used, any trade with Butler can only be of 1 extra player 2:1 without Miami having to move or cut a player for ever extra player past that. A 1:3 trade Miami has to get rid of 1 player through trade or cut to have the roster space to accept the trade or those extra players have to be rerouted somewhere else.

There is the possibility of both parties accepting (I don't think Butler would accept this) sending him home treatment then trying to trade him this summer or possibly stretching his contract out over 3 years for a hit of around 17 mil per year.

I had seen some speculation of a Butler and a small contract like Burks or Richardson for DeRozan, Huerter and Lyles plus whatever draft compensation, this also would save Miami a couple million but would also eat up their 15th roster spot.

[Enso]

Warriors would def like to grab him they need a piece yesterday with curry’s window closing, they just want him for the bare minimum.

They’re trying to pull a Pat Riley Special.

Shhh you don’t just give out the families secret recipes like that

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[eddieheatfan]

Heat receive - Reaves, Rui, Vanderbilt, Gabe, 29 1st, 31 1st

Lakers receive - Jimmy, JRich

Who says no?

[powerball1373]

Heat receive - Reaves, Rui, Vanderbilt, Gabe, 29 1st, 31 1st

Lakers receive - Jimmy, JRich

Who says no?

There's no way the Lakers do this. Probably not even for half of that package lol.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Been thinking about this one a lot and i do see this as a realistic possibility with Butler heading to Houston if the Heat are sold on Ingram as a long term piece here. They have shown interest in the past. His game meshes really well with Bam and Herro at that SF spot. This could be an audition for Ingram here. Worst case he just comes off the books.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[EMC5466]

I think we’re going to end up with Zion and Ingram.

[wAtChOut218]

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told you yesterday. this is the hottest convo right now
Heat - Memphis have great working relationship and have done several deals over the years

[batterybro42]

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Jimmy Butler is a weird guy it could be when it’s all said and done that he decides to apologize and take this whole thing back. I get the feeling that’s what his agent was trying to get him to do, understanding that market isn’t going to be great and Butler will likely be taking less money to go somewhere else and this fallout will hurt his chances at signing his last extended contract, and may ultimately lead to a poor ending of his basketball career.

Jimmy Butler is a guy who wasn’t wanted by his parents, and to me this is more about a vulnerability issue and a need for validation than it is about the money with a max deal. I think the guy has surrounded himself with some of the wrong people who are clinging on to his cape puffing his head up with stuff to make him feel tried by the Heat. I firmly believe what Miami wanted Jimmy to do was just opt into his 50 mil and then sign a deal of something like 3 years 50 mil. I think that’s very fair.

This situation doesn’t reflect poorly on the Heat and I think the more that comes out about it, it will actually be a net positive to how they have handled and embraced Jimmy given all the baggage he carries with him.