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Re: Official June 20th 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#741 » by Chalm Down » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:43 pm

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SlowPaced wrote:To the people on the Romeo bandwagon, convince me that his shooting woes won't be an issue at the next level, especially considering what we have. I'm open to it.


It might be the biggest question mark about his game, so not sure there's a totally convincing argument but

-played with an injured hand last season
-form is not atrocious like lonzo or kpj
-ft% was not atrocious at 72%. Sadly, that would be about average for our current roster lol
-i trust players that have such great touch at the rim like he does to improve his outside shot as well


He just seems like a type that would never be a consistent outside shooter to me. Even Justise, who shot 40% at college, took ages to become somewhat dependable from three. Can't be a great scorer in today's NBA without a jumpshot unless you're a complete freak of nature like Giannis.

It's an unpopular opinion, but I'm far higher on Nickeil Alexander-Walker than I am on Romeo Langford and he's the only SG prospect in the draft that I wouldn't be upset about us drafting at 13. Legit shooter who can pull up and make plays for others, good length, too.


Ehh Justise's 40% in college masked some of his shooting issues. That % was on very low attempts and his ft% was in the low 60's if I remember. Plus, his shot looked way more wonky than Romeo's does now imo.
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Re: Official June 20th 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#742 » by HeatIn5 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:45 pm

SlowPaced wrote:It'd be kinda funny if Riley ended up taking NAW at 13, my ass would be on the line here. I'm the only one who thinks so highly of him and sees him as a great pick for us lol


I agree With you man
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Re: Official June 20th 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#743 » by Chalm Down » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:45 pm

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This weird feeling of us trading the 13 pick is getting Will Manso too


Is there really a need for conspiracy theories? Can’t it just be the fact we have no SRP for the next like 5 years and wanted in?

Smh.


I don’t know , just the feeling of us doing something with the 13 pick lingers. Porter jr deserves us and we deserve him.


Idk about yall, but I deserve better :x
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Re: Official June 20th 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#744 » by Bishop45 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:46 pm

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27% from college three for a wing is rough. Very rough. Even guys like Stanley Johnson and Josh Jackson shot above 35% from three at college.


Kawhichael survived 25% :dontknow:

Can't trust everything shown at this level/especially a single season, but I'll stand by the players that show that they know how to play


I've learned my lesson not to point to outliers like Kawhi Leonard and Jimmy Butler in terms of going beyond expectations. Guys with that level of borderline obsessive work ethic are rare.

But I've been wrong on prospects before, so I guess it could happen with Romeo as well.


Point being that we can't predict outliers, just as we can't predict good shooters even. Even if he couldn't shoot, I would see him as a superior prospect to guards like NAW for what he could
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Re: Official June 20th 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#745 » by Spacely » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:47 pm

SlowPaced wrote:
Chalm Down wrote:
SlowPaced wrote:To the people on the Romeo bandwagon, convince me that his shooting woes won't be an issue at the next level, especially considering what we have. I'm open to it.


It might be the biggest question mark about his game, so not sure there's a totally convincing argument but

-played with an injured hand last season
-form is not atrocious like lonzo or kpj
-ft% was not atrocious at 72%. Sadly, that would be about average for our current roster lol
-i trust players that have such great touch at the rim like he does to improve his outside shot as well


He just seems like a type that would never be a consistent outside shooter to me. Even Justise, who shot 40% at college, took ages to become somewhat dependable from three. Can't be a great scorer in today's NBA without a jumpshot unless you're a complete freak of nature like Giannis.

It's an unpopular opinion, but I'm far higher on Nickeil Alexander-Walker than I am on Romeo Langford and he's the only SG prospect in the draft that I wouldn't be upset about us drafting at 13. Legit shooter who can pull up and make plays for others, good length, too.


I mean if you were only looking at his jumpshooting then You weren’t really open to changing your opinion on Romeo, he can still shoot mid-range shots pretty well and has a way better creative bag of scoring and shot creating abilities than NAW.
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Re: Official June 20th 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#746 » by Chalm Down » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:47 pm

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This weird feeling of us trading the 13 pick is getting Will Manso too


Is there really a need for conspiracy theories? Can’t it just be the fact we have no SRP for the next like 5 years and wanted in?

Smh.


LOL seconds are a rare breed of pokemon here, people don't know what to do with them

Also, no way atl gt was picking six rookies this year, ofc they wanted to dump one and we took advantage thankfully
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Re: Official June 20th 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#747 » by gom » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:48 pm

Jalen Lecque or Louis King might both be available at #44. I, for one, am stoked.
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Re: Official June 20th 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#748 » by Bishop45 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:50 pm

Not big on Leque, but never seen him play just the same
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Post#749 » by SoFlaKingReal » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:50 pm

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Re: Official June 20th 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#750 » by SlowPaced » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:51 pm

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It might be the biggest question mark about his game, so not sure there's a totally convincing argument but

-played with an injured hand last season
-form is not atrocious like lonzo or kpj
-ft% was not atrocious at 72%. Sadly, that would be about average for our current roster lol
-i trust players that have such great touch at the rim like he does to improve his outside shot as well


He just seems like a type that would never be a consistent outside shooter to me. Even Justise, who shot 40% at college, took ages to become somewhat dependable from three. Can't be a great scorer in today's NBA without a jumpshot unless you're a complete freak of nature like Giannis.

It's an unpopular opinion, but I'm far higher on Nickeil Alexander-Walker than I am on Romeo Langford and he's the only SG prospect in the draft that I wouldn't be upset about us drafting at 13. Legit shooter who can pull up and make plays for others, good length, too.


I mean if you were only looking at his jumpshooting then You weren’t really open to changing your opinion on Romeo, he can still shoot mid-range shots pretty well and has a way better creative bag of scoring and shot creating abilities than NAW.


I'm not going to be a fan of Romeo as a prospect unless I'm convinced that he can be a legitimate threat from three, no. I don't think you can be a great scorer as a 6'6'' shooting guard in this league without a good outside shot and scoring is all Romeo brings to the table so we can't even say "but he's a great defender" or "he's a great passer" or something like that.

It's especially a concern for a team like ours, because we already don't exactly have lights out shooting on the roster.
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Re: Official June 20th 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#751 » by Spacely » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:52 pm

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He just seems like a type that would never be a consistent outside shooter to me. Even Justise, who shot 40% at college, took ages to become somewhat dependable from three. Can't be a great scorer in today's NBA without a jumpshot unless you're a complete freak of nature like Giannis.

It's an unpopular opinion, but I'm far higher on Nickeil Alexander-Walker than I am on Romeo Langford and he's the only SG prospect in the draft that I wouldn't be upset about us drafting at 13. Legit shooter who can pull up and make plays for others, good length, too.


I mean if you were only looking at his jumpshooting then You weren’t really open to changing your opinion on Romeo, he can still shoot mid-range shots pretty well and has a way better creative bag of scoring and shot creating abilities than NAW.


I'm not going to be a fan of Romeo as a prospect unless I'm convinced that he can be a legitimate threat from three, no. I don't think you can be a great scorer as a 6'6'' shooting guard in this league without a good outside shot and scoring is all Romeo brings to the table.

It's especially a concern for a team like ours, because we already don't exactly have lights out shooting on the roster.


Scoring isn’t all he brings to the table though, I get it that your a casual to Romeo but a lot of us are caught up in what he can actually do, sorry you aren’t well informed.
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Re: Official June 20th 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#752 » by SlowPaced » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:54 pm

Spacely wrote:
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I mean if you were only looking at his jumpshooting then You weren’t really open to changing your opinion on Romeo, he can still shoot mid-range shots pretty well and has a way better creative bag of scoring and shot creating abilities than NAW.


I'm not going to be a fan of Romeo as a prospect unless I'm convinced that he can be a legitimate threat from three, no. I don't think you can be a great scorer as a 6'6'' shooting guard in this league without a good outside shot and scoring is all Romeo brings to the table.

It's especially a concern for a team like ours, because we already don't exactly have lights out shooting on the roster.


Scoring isn’t all he brings to the table though, I get it that your a casual to Romeo but a lot of us are caught up in what he can actually do, sorry you aren’t well informed.


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Re: Official June 20th 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#753 » by Dr_Heat » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:55 pm

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Re: Official June 20th 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#754 » by Kobewade11 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:58 pm

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So its confirmed.. heat will try using #44 to dump a contract
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Re: Official June 20th 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#755 » by HeatIn5 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:58 pm

Honestly the pick was probably just done now since the hawks are going to have a million things going on tomorrow
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Re: Official June 20th 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#756 » by HeatIn5 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:00 pm

However I wonder If we used our full allotment of $$?

Could we use 44 to Get out of a contract and then buy another pick?
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Re: Official June 20th 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#757 » by HeatingUp3 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:01 pm

gom wrote:Jalen Lecque or Louis King might both be available at #44. I, for one, am stoked.



King dropping to 44th will be shocking to me. This kid is GOOD. If he is there ill pick him in a second.
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Re: Official June 20th 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#758 » by SlowPaced » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:09 pm

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gom wrote:Jalen Lecque or Louis King might both be available at #44. I, for one, am stoked.



King dropping to 44th will be shocking to me. This kid is GOOD. If he is there ill pick him in a second.


The only reason King could drop to 44th is questions about his character. Similar case to KPJ, clearly a much better talent than where he is projected to go, but the teams are skeptical of his commitment and maturity.

I'd love for us to get him as well. Good shooter, good size, strong, can guard multiple positions. If Heat culture isn't motivating him, no other place can.
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Post#759 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:19 pm

Cmon_Son-_- wrote:Doubt Carsen would be there at 44. Give me Shamorie Ponds

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Re: Official June 20th 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#760 » by Wiltside » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:19 pm

If we take Iggy B at 44, IggieCC must permanently change his avi to that face
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