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2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby

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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#741 » by HeatIn5 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:08 pm

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JustiseForMiami wrote:
https://www.google.com/search?q=jason+kapono&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS756US756&oq=jason+kapono&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.2101j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


I looked up google. You don't think it's plausible that Kapono grew an inch in 20 years?


EDIT: Twix... come on man... Kapono 6'6.5 without shoes.... How often do guys ball without shoes?

People don't generally walk around without shoes either, but when you measure your height, you do it without shoes.


Without shoes is your true height. Rarely you get measurements with shoes. You do not always wear the same shoes. When you go get a physical they tell you to take your shoes off.



Yea I know.. my only point was that he was giving measurements for Herro with shoes, and for Kapono without shoes

Can't let him get by with that tomfoolery
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#742 » by contract » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:09 pm

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Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:People just don't understand how good of a shooter Herro was in college. In Herro's first 10 games, he made 28% of his 3s and 85% of his FTs, but in his last 27 games he made 38.7% of his 3s and 95.9% of his FTs. Those are amazing numbers. He might not become a top 20 scorer but he could become a top 10 shooter in the NBA like Steve Nash was.

Those are not amazing numbers by any stretch. Even less so when you arrive at them by subtracting his poorer performances.


How many players who attempted over 50 FTA made 90% or more of their FTA last season?

There's nothing wrong with his free throw shooting. I hope he takes a million of them. I was referring to his 3pt shooting.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#743 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:16 pm

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contract wrote:Those are not amazing numbers by any stretch. Even less so when you arrive at them by subtracting his poorer performances.


How many players who attempted over 50 FTA made 90% or more of their FTA last season?

There's nothing wrong with his free throw shooting. I hope he takes a million of them. I was referring to his 3pt shooting.


He's likely a better 3-point shooter than his stats say. He had a bad first 10 games shooting from 3 then got much better.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#744 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:17 pm

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twozeroMM wrote:You guys are wild'n to compare Herro to Kapono. I don't remember Jason driving to the basket like Herro.


Huh, Herro is used off screens. Kentucky did not use Herro as a ball handler. One sign that a team does not herald someone one ball handling is when teams presses. If your coaches remove you from being a ball handler to break the press and stick you in the corner. You are not a ball handler sir, especially if you are a guard.



You've obviously never coached a game in your life. Kentucky lacked shooters.

Breaking a press has little to do with your ball handlers, as you are not DRIBBLING through a press. You pass and cut to break a press.

You are taught against most presses to put your scorers down the court so that the other team is forced to spread out the court (allowing for cut lanes)

If Kentucky puts Hagans or Quickly in the deep court, the opposition could pack in the press, put more pressure and take more risks.

You put a scorer down the court to negate that. It's press break 101.


WAT!!! I am done, if you cant dribble and beat a man to man press, you gonna get your ball taken. I played ball. A team will press you if you do not have good ball handlers, hoping you pass the ball and get it stolen.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#745 » by DrHeat » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:22 pm

Reddick was a 4 year college player...as a freshman he would have gone late second round or undrafted..Even his first few years in Orlando he could not get on the court due to his small size and defense.. Tyler is a lot bigger and I think he can hold his own on Defense... Having a short wingspan is less of an issue when you are 6"6 on shoes.. BTW Tyler's standing reach is higher than Luke Kennard by 2 inches. I also think he has a higher motor than Kennard
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Post#746 » by HeatFanLifer » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:23 pm

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BINGO!

Everyone was saying we were crazy for not doing **** for two years in FA because Summer 2010 was so far fetched...yeah, we know how that played out.

We will have a core of solid rotational young players plus two max slots, it will be setting us up to contend for years and years after 2021...


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I can deal with the team sucking for two years, but the team has already sucked for 3 years and it’s looking like they’re gonna suck for at least 2 more years.

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The team from 2006-2010 had Wade and finished 4-5 in East 3 times. Only missed the playoffs once.

Our team the past 3 seasons only made the playoffs once and has no player to build around.

Plus, the plan never shifted from that 2010 offseason where Riley signed Bosh and Lebron. This 2021 talk though used to be 2019/2020 and the date keeps shifting later. Also, there isn’t any major names being linked to this franchise right now as opposed to the 2010 offseason when a lot of players showed interest. I would not say circumstances are identical.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#747 » by RexBoyWonder » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:23 pm

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RexBoyWonder wrote:So now that we've got Booker 2.0 we just need role players around him

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Very bad comp IMO.

Sure then both can shot, But I think that's underestimating Herro's well rounded game. He might never become Booker, But Iv'e alredy found enough footage of his handle, dribble drives, fishing to know he's not completely 1 dimensional.

Too early to know how good he can become in the P&R, But i'm confident his offensive game will be more then just catch and shoot 3's. I can see it.
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Post#748 » by HeatIn5 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:23 pm

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Huh, Herro is used off screens. Kentucky did not use Herro as a ball handler. One sign that a team does not herald someone one ball handling is when teams presses. If your coaches remove you from being a ball handler to break the press and stick you in the corner. You are not a ball handler sir, especially if you are a guard.



You've obviously never coached a game in your life. Kentucky lacked shooters.

Breaking a press has little to do with your ball handlers, as you are not DRIBBLING through a press. You pass and cut to break a press.

You are taught against most presses to put your scorers down the court so that the other team is forced to spread out the court (allowing for cut lanes)

If Kentucky puts Hagans or Quickly in the deep court, the opposition could pack in the press, put more pressure and take more risks.

You put a scorer down the court to negate that. It's press break 101.


WAT!!! I am done, if you cant dribble and beat a man to man press, you gonna get your ball taken. I played ball. A team will press you if you do not have good ball handlers, hoping you pass the ball and get it stolen.



So you think that every team that just "can't dribble" loses? Breaking a press is about being smart, not totally about having handles. It helps, but only the extreme cases like college/HS D-Rose/Wall

The most effective way to break a press is to pass and cut through it. Not put your head down and go.

That is not opinion, nor something to debate about. That is proven fact.

You could have "played ball", but I have learned pressure D first hand from some of the best guys to ever do it - and the first thing they will tell you is the best passing teams broke their press.

It is about passing and decision making.

Look up any press break, literally any. Send me 1 that has to do with dribbling through a pressure defense.
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Post#749 » by RexBoyWonder » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:24 pm



He can be your hero Twix
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Post#750 » by Bishop45 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:26 pm

Both Moses Brown and Kris Wilkes went undrafted, feel for em'

I liked Brown before the season, he was awful and looked soft this yr. I'd give him a shot as an UFA tho
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Post#751 » by Bishop45 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:29 pm

Damn, Lakers already got Norvell
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Post#752 » by RexBoyWonder » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:29 pm

I want at least 1 undrafted gem on the final roster, i feel there's a few guys that slipped.

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Post#753 » by HeatIn5 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:30 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:I want at least 1 undrafted gem on the final roster, i feel there's a few guys that slipped.

Most exciting summer league in a while.


We got Jeremiah Martin :noway: :oops:
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Post#754 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:30 pm

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You've obviously never coached a game in your life. Kentucky lacked shooters.

Breaking a press has little to do with your ball handlers, as you are not DRIBBLING through a press. You pass and cut to break a press.

You are taught against most presses to put your scorers down the court so that the other team is forced to spread out the court (allowing for cut lanes)

If Kentucky puts Hagans or Quickly in the deep court, the opposition could pack in the press, put more pressure and take more risks.

You put a scorer down the court to negate that. It's press break 101.


WAT!!! I am done, if you cant dribble and beat a man to man press, you gonna get your ball taken. I played ball. A team will press you if you do not have good ball handlers, hoping you pass the ball and get it stolen.



So you think that every team that just "can't dribble" loses? Breaking a press is about being smart, not totally about having handles. It helps, but only the extreme cases like college/HS D-Rose/Wall

The most effective way to break a press is to pass and cut through it. Not put your head down and go.

That is not opinion, nor something to debate about. That is proven fact.

You could have "played ball", but I have learned pressure D first hand from some of the best guys to ever do it - and the first thing they will tell you is the best passing teams broke their press.

It is about passing and decision making.

Look up any press break, literally any. Send me 1 that has to do with dribbling through a pressure defense.


I am not gonna argue about this. This is none sense.
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Post#755 » by Dr_Heat » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:32 pm

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RexBoyWonder wrote:I want at least 1 undrafted gem on the final roster, i feel there's a few guys that slipped.

Most exciting summer league in a while.


We got Jeremiah Martin :noway: :oops:


He any good ? I know he has the mike miller and penny hardaway connection. Any other undrafted players
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Post#756 » by Dr_Heat » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:33 pm

Twix and justice :argue: :lol:
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Post#757 » by RexBoyWonder » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:34 pm

JustiseForMiami wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:I want at least 1 undrafted gem on the final roster, i feel there's a few guys that slipped.

Most exciting summer league in a while.


We got Jeremiah Martin :noway: :oops:


Gunner lefty, just mt type.

I like him better then Nunn honestly.
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Post#758 » by HeatIn5 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:35 pm

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Post#759 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:35 pm

I mean we literally seen Toronto almost lose game 6 to a press because Danny Green got the ball and cant dribble.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft 2.0 - I can be your Herro baby 

Post#760 » by Dr_Heat » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:38 pm

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