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Post#741 » by Hallstar » Sat Dec 4, 2021 2:45 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:We haven’t seen him out in the position to do that though tbh. Young Lakers team then this pelicans team that Zion is always out. People thought the same about Wiggins but look at him now. I think Ingram would be a huge boost, especially to the starting lineup over Duncan

Huh? When GS has their full cast healthy Wiggins is the 3rd or 4th best player on that team. Lets trade Herro for Wiggins next.


Ingram is better than both.

No, He's not. Where did Ingram love come from?
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Post#742 » by harlem_ball » Sat Dec 4, 2021 3:56 am

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No it’s not lol

Do you work for the Pelicans? AirP = Air Pelicans? :lol:

Cuz that trade is highway robbery. :lol:


That great reply was to the wrong person.


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Post#743 » by harlem_ball » Sat Dec 4, 2021 3:59 am

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Looks like the Yurt7 prophecy is coming to fruition. Spo's hand was forced and he was again proven to be the wanker we all know he is.

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Post#744 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Dec 4, 2021 4:40 am

Hallstar wrote:
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Kobewade11 wrote:Huh? When GS has their full cast healthy Wiggins is the 3rd or 4th best player on that team. Lets trade Herro for Wiggins next.


Ingram is better than both.

No, He's not. Where did Ingram love come from?


Which one isn’t Ingram better than?
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Post#745 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Dec 4, 2021 7:42 am

Idea being thrown around on Twitter right now. Lowry and Herro for Lillard, opinions?
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Post#746 » by puppa bear » Sat Dec 4, 2021 11:26 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Idea being thrown around on Twitter right now. Lowry and Herro for Lillard, opinions?

I don’t see Jimmy going for it.

But I’d be down for that. It does impact the whole FA thing, but if we’ve got Dame/Jimmy/Bam ring chasers will be lining up!
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Post#747 » by Kobewade11 » Sat Dec 4, 2021 2:38 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Idea being thrown around on Twitter right now. Lowry and Herro for Lillard, opinions?

We arent trading Lowry.
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Post#748 » by MorbidHEAT » Sat Dec 4, 2021 3:10 pm



Duncan wasn't playing when Ira asked him that first question. He looked seriously annoyed. lol. Hopefully it fuels him to shut Ira and everybody up and it turns his season around.
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Post#749 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Dec 4, 2021 5:42 pm

I agree on Jimmy making it difficult to trade Lowry but on the other side if Portland came up and offered Dame I think both Lowry and Jimmy would understand. Plus Bam and Lillard built a great relationship this summer. Idk, I have a hard time seeing Riley saying no to that. We’re all in
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Post#750 » by harlem_ball » Sat Dec 4, 2021 6:01 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Idea being thrown around on Twitter right now. Lowry and Herro for Lillard, opinions?



I think you move Herro to pair up Butler and Lillard. Not sure you can even move Lowry but you make that deal somehow. Although Herro is probably a more efficient shooter and has a brighter future than Dame.
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Post#751 » by insfo » Sat Dec 4, 2021 6:18 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Idea being thrown around on Twitter right now. Lowry and Herro for Lillard, opinions?



I think you move Herro to pair up Butler and Lillard. Not sure you can even move Lowry but you make that deal somehow. Although Herro is probably a more efficient shooter and has a brighter future than Dame.

You might want to re-read that last sentence!
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Post#752 » by harlem_ball » Sat Dec 4, 2021 6:34 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Idea being thrown around on Twitter right now. Lowry and Herro for Lillard, opinions?



I think you move Herro to pair up Butler and Lillard. Not sure you can even move Lowry but you make that deal somehow. Although Herro is probably a more efficient shooter and has a brighter future than Dame.

You might want to re-read that last sentence!


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Post#753 » by dshearn » Sat Dec 4, 2021 8:31 pm

I dont think trading lowery would be an option. there is the butler considerations, but also how the team circled the wagons over morris. As ill advised as after game stuff was, it does display bonding and cohesion...something lowery is a serious part of. His contract is not a great contract, and lowery's play has been spotty for sure, but i think that bed was made, and now we have to sleep in it.

I do think the lowery effect is real, and it has forced Spo to do new things, beneficial changes to his coaching.

Let's hope the Heat can build on the things that have been successful, and they get more consistency from Lowery and Duncan.

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Post#754 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Dec 4, 2021 9:00 pm

harlem_ball wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Idea being thrown around on Twitter right now. Lowry and Herro for Lillard, opinions?



I think you move Herro to pair up Butler and Lillard. Not sure you can even move Lowry but you make that deal somehow. Although Herro is probably a more efficient shooter and has a brighter future than Dame.


Lillard is one of the greatest shooters we’ve ever seen so that’s a pretty tall statement. He’s just slumping right now, a lot going on in Portland and in his mind imo
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Post#755 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Dec 4, 2021 9:04 pm

dshearn wrote:I dont think trading lowery would be an option. there is the butler considerations, but also how the team circled the wagons over morris. As ill advised as after game stuff was, it does display bonding and cohesion...something lowery is a serious part of. His contract is not a great contract, and lowery's play has been spotty for sure, but i think that bed was made, and now we have to sleep in it.

I do think the lowery effect is real, and it has forced Spo to do new things, beneficial changes to his coaching.

Let's hope the Heat can build on the things that have been successful, and they get more consistency from Lowery and Duncan.

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I understand all that but I just seriously doubt if the blazers came to Riley and said “hey, we’ve decided it’s time to part ways with Lillard and we’re interested in a Lillard/filler swap for Lowry/Herro/Filler” that Riley would say no. Lillard is a top 10 player.

Can you all imagine a big 3 of Lillard-Jimmy-Bam with Dipo coming back and hopefully a veteran PG coming in at some point to run the 2nd unit? We would have to be the favorites, a perfect mix of star players imo.
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Post#756 » by BenoUdrihFTL » Sat Dec 4, 2021 9:33 pm

Lillard has been playing with an abdominal injury since before the Olympics so I wouldn't read too much into his poor play this season. The issue is whether the injury will be healed before the playoffs. If so, my decision on that deal would come down to Dipo, as crazy as it is to pin everything on such a wild card lol. With Dipo at even say 80% of his peak, I think you definitely have to pull the trigger on a Bam/PJ/Yimmy/Dipo/Dame lineup. The dynamic offensive synergy of having what I imagine would be our primary scorer Dame coming from the perimeter, then balanced by Yimmy and Bam tearing it up inside would be too delicious

The reason Dipo is so important here is defense. Swapping Lowry for Dame is an enormous defensive downgrade, but if you can also swap Herro for Dipo (or Duncan for Dipo in terms of the starting lineup) then it's close to a wash. The bench would lose Herro's volume scoring punch but you could maybe stagger Bam some mins with the bench and just spam DHOs with Duncan and Strus lol
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Post#757 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Dec 4, 2021 9:43 pm

BenoUdrihFTL wrote:Lillard has been playing with an abdominal injury since before the Olympics so I wouldn't read too much into his poor play this season. The issue is whether the injury will be healed before the playoffs. If so, my decision on that deal would come down to Dipo, as crazy as it is to pin everything on such a wild card lol. With Dipo at even say 80% of his peak, I think you definitely have to pull the trigger on a Bam/PJ/Yimmy/Dipo/Dame lineup. The dynamic offensive synergy of having what I imagine would be our primary scorer Dame coming from the perimeter, then balanced by Yimmy and Bam tearing it up inside would be too delicious

The reason Dipo is so important here is defense. Swapping Lowry for Dame is an enormous defensive downgrade, but if you can also swap Herro for Dipo (or Duncan for Dipo in terms of the starting lineup) then it's close to a wash. The bench would lose Herro's volume scoring punch but you could maybe stagger Bam some mins with the bench and just spam DHOs with Duncan and Strus lol


I agree with this 100%. My hopes would be to keep Robinson unless we trade him in a separate deal for a Barnes type? And keep him with the starters and have Dipo off the bench to weather the storm of losing Herro there. He can play how Tyler is minutes wise and all that. Bench will probably run 8-9 deep in the playoffs and I’m hoping for at least 3 vets and one of these younger guys. I just don’t trust these young guys in a playoff setting.

Anyone saying no to this will change there mind when Dame hits a game winning 3 to end a series like he did against the thunder a couple years ago :lol:
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Post#758 » by harlem_ball » Sat Dec 4, 2021 10:08 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Idea being thrown around on Twitter right now. Lowry and Herro for Lillard, opinions?



I think you move Herro to pair up Butler and Lillard. Not sure you can even move Lowry but you make that deal somehow. Although Herro is probably a more efficient shooter and has a brighter future than Dame.


Lillard is one of the greatest shooters we’ve ever seen so that’s a pretty tall statement. He’s just slumping right now, a lot going on in Portland and in his mind imo


yeah, Dame's great but he's also old. How many years will Lillard be an elite wing?

Herro is looking more like Booker every month and might be something different altogether. That's big going forward.
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Post#759 » by carnageta » Sat Dec 4, 2021 10:10 pm

I don't think Miami trades Herro and Lowry for Dame. Only way it happens is if both underperform majorly in the playoffs and the Heat F.O no longer believes Lowry is one of the top pure pg's in the league - in which case, given that both Lowry's and Tyler's value would tank, it's unlikely they'd be enough to bring in a guy like Lillard. We'd get outbid.

UNLESS

Dame publicly comes out and says he wants to play in Miami. Portland's F.O may honor his wishes..
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Post#760 » by harlem_ball » Sat Dec 4, 2021 10:11 pm

BenoUdrihFTL wrote:Lillard has been playing with an abdominal injury since before the Olympics so I wouldn't read too much into his poor play this season. The issue is whether the injury will be healed before the playoffs. If so, my decision on that deal would come down to Dipo, as crazy as it is to pin everything on such a wild card lol. With Dipo at even say 80% of his peak, I think you definitely have to pull the trigger on a Bam/PJ/Yimmy/Dipo/Dame lineup. The dynamic offensive synergy of having what I imagine would be our primary scorer Dame coming from the perimeter, then balanced by Yimmy and Bam tearing it up inside would be too delicious

The reason Dipo is so important here is defense. Swapping Lowry for Dame is an enormous defensive downgrade, but if you can also swap Herro for Dipo (or Duncan for Dipo in terms of the starting lineup) then it's close to a wash. The bench would lose Herro's volume scoring punch but you could maybe stagger Bam some mins with the bench and just spam DHOs with Duncan and Strus lol


Depending on Dipo is a pipe dream. Just plug in Vincent.

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