2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1

[Crazy-Canuck]

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I’ve seen a lot of Cavs fans mad at this but Suggs is a perfect glue guy 3 and D player and obviously still young. Get that 3 point % to hover around last seasons numbers and he’ll be good to go. I’d assume Cleveland also gets a pick at least in this scenario so could use it to build elsewhere if they like. Mitchell without Garland since he came to Cleveland has averaged 30-5-7 with a 61TS%. I think there’s too much overlap between the 2 and the lesser player in garland takes a lot of reps away from Mitchell (which might help in the RS but hurts in the playoffs).

I would love to have Suggs on the Heat. Cavs saw how important Nesmith/Nembhard were against them and decided to go get their own.

Herro-Garland swap fits, but also hilarious at the same time.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[twix2500]

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Fire Sale

[MettaWorldPanda]

If Mitchell can match last seasons production considering he’s an elite defender I don’t think it’s an overpay if we have to match $14M. If we’re planning on building a contender we need guys like him who play both sides of the ball. We’ve seen it on our teams in the past, we’re seeing it with OKC and Indy right now.

With trying to avoid repeater this year it’s not a smart move. Signing Mitchell to 14 mil basically eats into whatever space we have not including the 4 mil earmarked to draft pick. We would have to outright release Duncan to make this happen instead of using his high value contract in trade. We offered Gabe 8.5 mil a few years ago and Lakers over paid at 11. We can’t give Mitchell a 8 mil raise per for just a few months of production. He’s been a career backup

[twix2500]

If Mitchell can match last seasons production considering he’s an elite defender I don’t think it’s an overpay if we have to match $14M. If we’re planning on building a contender we need guys like him who play both sides of the ball. We’ve seen it on our teams in the past, we’re seeing it with OKC and Indy right now.

With trying to avoid repeater this year it’s not a smart move. Signing Mitchell to 14 mil basically eats into whatever space we have not including the 4 mil earmarked to draft pick. We would have to outright release Duncan to make this happen instead of using his high value contract in trade. We offered Gabe 8.5 mil a few years ago and Lakers over paid at 11. We can’t give Mitchell a 8 mil raise per for just a few months of production. He’s been a career backup

Trades my brother to clear up caproom and roster room. The Heat have now tagged him, giving the Heat time to make roster moves to rearrange the dirty closet.

[MettaWorldPanda]

If Mitchell can match last seasons production considering he’s an elite defender I don’t think it’s an overpay if we have to match $14M. If we’re planning on building a contender we need guys like him who play both sides of the ball. We’ve seen it on our teams in the past, we’re seeing it with OKC and Indy right now.

With trying to avoid repeater this year it’s not a smart move. Signing Mitchell to 14 mil basically eats into whatever space we have not including the 4 mil earmarked to draft pick. We would have to outright release Duncan to make this happen instead of using his high value contract in trade. We offered Gabe 8.5 mil a few years ago and Lakers over paid at 11. We can’t give Mitchell a 8 mil raise per for just a few months of production. He’s been a career backup

Trades my brother to clear up caproom and roster room. The Heat have now tagged him, giving the Heat time to make roster moves to rearrange the dirty closet.

They are definitely going to wait out the market. Can’t overpay though but looking around the landscape i don’t see very many teams looking to overpay either. This is the one offseason a lot of teams are apron’d or cap constrained. Teams needing PG’s will be drafting them.

[twix2500]

With trying to avoid repeater this year it’s not a smart move. Signing Mitchell to 14 mil basically eats into whatever space we have not including the 4 mil earmarked to draft pick. We would have to outright release Duncan to make this happen instead of using his high value contract in trade. We offered Gabe 8.5 mil a few years ago and Lakers over paid at 11. We can’t give Mitchell a 8 mil raise per for just a few months of production. He’s been a career backup

Trades my brother to clear up caproom and roster room. The Heat have now tagged him, giving the Heat time to make roster moves to rearrange the dirty closet.

They are definitely going to wait out the market. Can’t overpay though but looking around the landscape i don’t see very many teams looking to overpay either. This is the one offseason a lot of teams are apron’d or cap constrained. Teams needing PG’s will be drafting them.

I wouldnt be surprise teams will be trading their picks for capspace.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Trades my brother to clear up caproom and roster room. The Heat have now tagged him, giving the Heat time to make roster moves to rearrange the dirty closet.

They are definitely going to wait out the market. Can’t overpay though but looking around the landscape i don’t see very many teams looking to overpay either. This is the one offseason a lot of teams are apron’d or cap constrained. Teams needing PG’s will be drafting them.

I wouldnt be surprise teams will be trading their picks for capspace.

Duncan’s 10 million in cap savings has to have at very least a protected 1st rd pick value to it. If not mistaken it’s the only contract currently structured to give a team that type of immediate cap savings. In most cases a non guaranteed becomes guaranteed when traded. Not Duncan’s

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

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I’m seeing a lot of Trey Murphy stuff lately, sign me up.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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In order for the Wolves to pull this off they would have to trade Randle and McDaniels. Then whatever young player or pick that’s decided on. There is a path for them if this is the direction they want to go in.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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I’m seeing a lot of Trey Murphy stuff lately, sign me up.

Most of what you seen about Trey Murphy is Heat twitter picking up on this report. The Trey Murphy bleacher report most likely is a fan or some low level insider throwing out a wish list.

[twix2500]

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In order for the Wolves to pull this off they would have to trade Randle and McDaniels. Then whatever young player or pick that’s decided on. There is a path for them if this is the direction they want to go in.

They are a 2nd apron team

[MettaWorldPanda]

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In order for the Wolves to pull this off they would have to trade Randle and McDaniels. Then whatever young player or pick that’s decided on. There is a path for them if this is the direction they want to go in.

They are a 2nd apron team

They will be under it once Naz Reid opts out. They also have NAW entering free agency.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/timberwolves-offseason-primer-good-problems-to-have/

[greg4012]

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I like this narrative because it's the type of thing that can lowkey bother Ant and stay with him. "Minny doesn't see me as enough of an alpha" Ouch

With that said, the supermax is undefeated.

[greg4012]

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In order for the Wolves to pull this off they would have to trade Randle and McDaniels. Then whatever young player or pick that’s decided on. There is a path for them if this is the direction they want to go in.

Does this scenario assume Randle opts into his player option and foregoes free agency?

[MettaWorldPanda]

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In order for the Wolves to pull this off they would have to trade Randle and McDaniels. Then whatever young player or pick that’s decided on. There is a path for them if this is the direction they want to go in.

Does this scenario assume Randle opts into his player option and foregoes free agency?

I think most people assume he’s opting in. He’s not getting more than 30 mil per in the open market. No money this year aside from BK. I could see BK going after Naz Reid. T Wolves do need that Randle contract to be even in this race.

[greg4012]

In order for the Wolves to pull this off they would have to trade Randle and McDaniels. Then whatever young player or pick that’s decided on. There is a path for them if this is the direction they want to go in.

Does this scenario assume Randle opts into his player option and foregoes free agency?

I think most people assume he’s opting in. He’s not getting more than 30 mil per in the open market. No money this year aside from BK. I could see BK going after Naz Reid. T Wolves do need that Randle contract to be even in this race.

Interesting--what about sign and trade avenues? Me thinks Randle was playing for a new contract this season.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Does this scenario assume Randle opts into his player option and foregoes free agency?

I think most people assume he’s opting in. He’s not getting more than 30 mil per in the open market. No money this year aside from BK. I could see BK going after Naz Reid. T Wolves do need that Randle contract to be even in this race.

Interesting--what about sign and trade avenues? Me thinks Randle was playing for a new contract this season.

S&T’s are tricky cause it hard caps the other team. Would be a huge gamble for Randle to opt out. I just don’t see teams out there eager to pay. The value for other teams is getting his expiring contract

[MettaWorldPanda]

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I’ve seen a lot of Cavs fans mad at this but Suggs is a perfect glue guy 3 and D player and obviously still young. Get that 3 point % to hover around last seasons numbers and he’ll be good to go. I’d assume Cleveland also gets a pick at least in this scenario so could use it to build elsewhere if they like. Mitchell without Garland since he came to Cleveland has averaged 30-5-7 with a 61TS%. I think there’s too much overlap between the 2 and the lesser player in garland takes a lot of reps away from Mitchell (which might help in the RS but hurts in the playoffs).

I would love to have Suggs on the Heat. Cavs saw how important Nesmith/Nembhard were against them and decided to go get their own.

Herro-Garland swap fits, but also hilarious at the same time.

Cavs looking to shore up the defense in the backcourt with Suggs. They are not accomplishing that with a Herro for Garland swap.