2025-26 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 3.0

[KingDavid]

How is he not going to like what he sees, it looks possible for Miami to have...

Starters... Ja, Powell, Wiggins, Giannis, Ware
Bench... Mitchell, Jaquez Jr, Larrson, Jakucionis, Jovic, Smith.

That's up there for one of the strongest playoff rotations in the league although you'd need Ware to gain Spoelstra's trust.

The way Spo has been coaching; Ware would have to come off the bench, Giannis would have to start at center, Jovic has been absolutely atrocious, Wiggins slides to the 4 and Larsson takes his place.

Ja/KJ/Smith
Powell/Mitchell/Gardner
Larsson/3J
Wiggins/Jovic/Fonteccio
Giannis/Ware

....know what, that's actually not bad to me. Starting wing defense is a little troubling, but the firepower is there. Milwaukee gets a trove of picks + hometown Herro leading the tank (or trade Herro + whoever for more picks).

It seemed like everyone was getting what they wanted. The issue was Bam moving but if Miami doesn't make any big moves in the next 18 months, the FO may end up putting 30-year-old Bam on the market, right now, Miami is basically wasting Bam's prime vs keep building, it's another reason I hated seeing Miami draft 1st rounders vs go all in on another really good player, even if Butler left. You did get Powell handed to you for basically nothing though.

What's not odd to me anymore... Ja's out there on a huge discount and Miami's FO may just say no thanks we're going after Giannis (who's going to sign that supermax and then possibly get traded a year later). It almost feels like the FO just chases big named players they can't get just to keep some of the fanbase excited.

Hmmm, we're giving up Bam and Herro to get Ja & Giannis. How many picks would you estimate us losing if you have GSW already giving up 2-3 1sts + 1-2 swaps? I think we each would have to give another pick or swap to Memphis; Ja is a big loss no matter how we slice it.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Giannis is not coming here without Bam. Plain and simple. Zero chance. Alex Saratsis is not going to allow his only two high profile clients to be involved in trade for one another. The Heat culture pump gets thrown out the window if they trade Bam in any form for Giannis and puts an absurd amount of pressure on Giannis. Think logically. That’s not what Giannis is going to want. Too many bridges get burned

[AirP.]

The way Spo has been coaching; Ware would have to come off the bench, Giannis would have to start at center, Jovic has been absolutely atrocious, Wiggins slides to the 4 and Larsson takes his place.

Ja/KJ/Smith
Powell/Mitchell/Gardner
Larsson/3J
Wiggins/Jovic/Fonteccio
Giannis/Ware

....know what, that's actually not bad to me. Starting wing defense is a little troubling, but the firepower is there. Milwaukee gets a trove of picks + hometown Herro leading the tank (or trade Herro + whoever for more picks).

It seemed like everyone was getting what they wanted. The issue was Bam moving but if Miami doesn't make any big moves in the next 18 months, the FO may end up putting 30-year-old Bam on the market, right now, Miami is basically wasting Bam's prime vs keep building, it's another reason I hated seeing Miami draft 1st rounders vs go all in on another really good player, even if Butler left. You did get Powell handed to you for basically nothing though.

What's not odd to me anymore... Ja's out there on a huge discount and Miami's FO may just say no thanks we're going after Giannis (who's going to sign that supermax and then possibly get traded a year later). It almost feels like the FO just chases big named players they can't get just to keep some of the fanbase excited.

If the bucks are good with herro, why wouldnt miami just take giannis and keep bam?

You have the bucks getting herro, kuminga, moody, + 4-6 picks/swaps.

Miami could give herro + ware (better than kuminga and moody combined) + jovic + 4-6 picks and swaps.

Miami gets ja for rozier+fontecchio instead of rozier + heild.(pure expirings either way)

Ja+powell+wiggins+giannis+bam is alot stronger and the outgoing assets for miami stays the same.

I'm not sure you have any picks that may look as desirable as a post-Curry GS pick, meaning a high lottery pick. With Curry, Butler and Green all near the end even if they had Bam and say Podz and whoever else(Richard?), that doesn't sound like a team that's staying out of the lottery and with that, that post-Curry pick might be very valuable.

For Miami, some long-term picks might be good, but Giannis is probably playing deep into his 30s, Powell and Wiggins probably won't be around, some of the younger players should be hitting their primes at that point.

I think GS is kinda nuts to even consider that post-Curry pick (they have l for anyone over the age of 26. They traded their 2029 pick so they can't trade the 2028-2030 picks, so 31 and 32 would be most likely post-Curry which could get ugly, they pretty much botched those 3 lottery picks (3, 7, 14th) they had in the early 2020s, it seems 2 if not all 3 were selected by the owner (which is why he hasn't wanted to trade Kuminga).

Joe Lacob (owner) has proven he'll spend money, but he's also shown he'll make some of the important draft and maybe some of the roster decisions vs letting his experts make the calls and just accepting or declining them as an owner. It could be bleak in GS soon even if the owner will spend. This is the part of the organization that Miami's owner has gotten right, let the experts make the decisions, if they screw up, go get new ones.

[TroubleS0me]

I'm just tired of every game a narrative being pushed. This has been my least favorite Heat season in the past 20ish years, the 07-08 season was more fun cause at least everyone knew we sucked and were on the same page.

That year was fun AF, never been to so many heat games like that year but at least we picked a direction that year. Oh well, I'm also dolphins fan, so this is a cakewalk in comparison; especially since we have some titles and plenty of finals appearances

I still remember that 15 game losing streak we had it was rough, the Earl Barron, Ricky Davis days

[Lennyzinho]

Sammy, do you (or anyone else) know how much money Giannis could lose if he's traded in the off-season versus being traded by trade deadline?

Giannis is eligible to sign a super max worth up to 35% of cap or 4-275M (jfc...)
As opposed to jjst a max or 30% being worth 4-235M

Basically 60M or 70M a year on avg over the course of the contract that will take giannis up to his age 36-37 seaosn.

I think its 35% w/8% raises in both scenarios. 4/350.

If he gets traded now, he gets an extra year of trade kicker (15%). He also wont be able to extend for 6 months or he waits to see if they can build a team then opts out to resign or leaves as a FA.. Its why I don't think teams selling players for draft capital convinces giannis at all. There's a small 6 month to 1 year window for him to make his last bed. Why would he gamble on a depleted team when there are better win now options?

It can't be 43% of the cap. I dont even want giannis if he's making 43% of the cap. Im pretty sure max is 30% and super max (all nba, etc) is 35%.

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[Crazy-Canuck]

Giannis is eligible to sign a super max worth up to 35% of cap or 4-275M (jfc...)
As opposed to jjst a max or 30% being worth 4-235M

Basically 60M or 70M a year on avg over the course of the contract that will take giannis up to his age 36-37 seaosn.

I think its 35% w/8% raises in both scenarios. 4/350.

If he gets traded now, he gets an extra year of trade kicker (15%). He also wont be able to extend for 6 months or he waits to see if they can build a team then opts out to resign or leaves as a FA.. Its why I don't think teams selling players for draft capital convinces giannis at all. There's a small 6 month to 1 year window for him to make his last bed. Why would he gamble on a depleted team when there are better win now options?

It can't be 43% of the cap. I dont even want giannis if he's making 43% of the cap. Im pretty sure max is 30% and super max (all nba, etc) is 35%.

He made all nba last year. Hes 35% supermax and 8% yearly raises is the most he can get That's just what he could get. If giannis prioritizes winning, I assume it'll be a friendlier extension if he believes the team can compete. I wouldnt pay him 4/350 either.

[Crazy-Canuck]

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Definitely a giannis roadblock if true.

[Crazy-Canuck]

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Memphis insider said the same thing. They prefer rozier to herro.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Memphis insider said the same thing. They prefer rozier to herro.

Uh oh, he careful saying this around here. I hurt some feeling when I pointed it out a few days ago

[3ammy3uck3ts]

The Herro stuff isn’t surprising to anyone who’s been watching how the league values one dimensional offense only players such as himself the last year or so, some just didn’t want to believe it. That’s why Milwaukee is the perfect trade partner, we can sell them on a hometown “all star” to bridge the Giannis gap along with our other young pieces and picks

[KingDavid]

I'm just tired of every game a narrative being pushed. This has been my least favorite Heat season in the past 20ish years, the 07-08 season was more fun cause at least everyone knew we sucked and were on the same page.

That year was fun AF, never been to so many heat games like that year but at least we picked a direction that year. Oh well, I'm also dolphins fan, so this is a cakewalk in comparison; especially since we have some titles and plenty of finals appearances

I still remember that 15 game losing streak we had it was rough, the Earl Barron, Ricky Davis days

Omfg Earl Barron!!!! I think I was modding the official Miami Heat forum that year

[Vertical Limit]

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Memphis insider said the same thing. They prefer rozier to herro.

There is no way memphis does not want the second coming of Steph Curry. They cant even stomach basically 1.5 years of this all worldly talented Tyler Herro?

Here is my offer.. Herro, Simone take your pick of any 2 of JJJ, Ware, Davion, first round pick.

I want Ja and Ty Jerome back

If they insist they dont want our trash, then we remove Herro off the deal, put in Rozier or wiggins in his place..

I think we could find a third team to take on Herro.. if not, see what the Lakers are willing to give up for Herro.. they need a guy that can come off the bench and score..

[twix2500]

The Herro stuff isn’t surprising to anyone who’s been watching how the league values one dimensional offense only players such as himself the last year or so, some just didn’t want to believe it. That’s why Milwaukee is the perfect trade partner, we can sell them on a hometown “all star” to bridge the Giannis gap along with our other young pieces and picks

I really doubt, the Heat are willing to get Morant and lose Herro. My impression is they are trying to get Morant for Mitchell and Rozier, and this summer they would explore trading Herro depending on Powell situation.

Personally I would do a Rozier and Herro for Morant and KCP. But it appears that Memphis sticking point is they are trying to get draft picks. I have a feeling they have to talked to Morant into playing his best to boost his market before the trade deadline.

[Lennyzinho]

Giannis watch: Bucks started 3rd Q going 4-5 from 3 and are up 20 on the ice cold hawks shooting 13% from 3, 3-24... yikes. Hawks are a good shooting team too. Miserable game for them. Watched some of it too, wide open looks.

[broke]

Giannis watch: Bucks started 3rd Q going 4-5 from 3 and are up 20 on the ice cold hawks shooting 13% from 3, 3-24... yikes. Hawks are a good shooting team too. Miserable game for them. Watched some of it too, wide open looks.

Just switched on to watch the Hawks cut it to 8 with Giannis on the bench

[MettaWorldPanda]

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[Vertical Limit]

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We may go on a six game winning streak then. Doubtful they win it all, but theyll be on their best roster with him gone

[Tim_Hardawayy]

The Herro stuff isn’t surprising to anyone who’s been watching how the league values one dimensional offense only players such as himself the last year or so, some just didn’t want to believe it. That’s why Milwaukee is the perfect trade partner, we can sell them on a hometown “all star” to bridge the Giannis gap along with our other young pieces and picks

I haven't seen anyone say Tyler Herro has great trade value. What I have seen them say is the Heat could have dealt him for stars and refused to do so because they love Herro so much. And yet, it turns out, that's probably not true at all. Basically masturbatory trade ideas that never existed in reality cause anger and frustration.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

That year was fun AF, never been to so many heat games like that year but at least we picked a direction that year. Oh well, I'm also dolphins fan, so this is a cakewalk in comparison; especially since we have some titles and plenty of finals appearances

I still remember that 15 game losing streak we had it was rough, the Earl Barron, Ricky Davis days

Omfg Earl Barron!!!! I think I was modding the official Miami Heat forum that year

I still remember the Rose/Beasley watch. There was some other big names we were looking at that year too, like O.J. Mayo and Kevin Love. That's the last time I can remember closely following a college season and scouting prospects.