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2020 NBA Draft - We have a FRP!....for now

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft - We have a FRP!....for now 

Post#761 » by radikalBaller » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:30 pm

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radikalBaller wrote:My top picks so far:

Kira Lewis
Immanuel Quickley
Saadick Bey
Daniel Oturu if he can pas the foot speed test...


I've narrowed down my list to:

Jalen Smith
Daniel Oturu
Zeke Nnaji
Reggie Perry
Immanuel Quickley
Tyrese Maxey
Tyrell Terry
Tre Jones
Vernon Carey Jr
Malachi Flynn


Nice ! I think heat will look at players that can play both side of the floor with some upside like Quickley and Bey, possibly Lewis if he gain stranght and Oturu if he passes the foot speed test...

Reggie perry might be slow footed to guard the perimeter and a bit undersized to guard the post and protect the paint, an alternative to perry would be Paul reed but he needs to improve his shot..

Nnaji is more of a hustle player with limited talent, not sure if I would want to use 20th pick on him

Maxey is cool but there is less to discover compared to quickley because they gave himthe ball at kentucky, and he is not the shooter that quickley is

Tre jones is cool but more like a 3rd string pg

Carey is Jahlil okafor 2.0, too slow and heavy

Flynn is cool but again like trejones

Quickley is a knocked down shooter with a 6-10 wingspan with great defensive potential

Bey is great 3 and D prospect with good size to play alongside Bam, and great defensive instinct and motor, ready to contribute from day 1

Lewis is a blur and an offensive weapon similarly to dearon fox, very fun to watch, his quickness gives him good defensive potential too
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Post#762 » by twix2500 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:59 pm

Even thou I think its far fetched, I am really intrigued by the idea of Cole Anthony fit on this roster. A dynamic aggressive scorer who can breakdown the defense off the dribble.

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Post#763 » by Bishop45 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:57 pm

I would like to believe in Cole Anthony but he was flaming trash last szn

Reddish got drafted top 10 last yr, so will he, I'm guessing
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Post#764 » by Kobewade11 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:07 pm

Im not intrigued by any of the bigs. Jalen Smith I guess because he has some semblance of an offensive game, the rest are meh.
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Post#765 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:18 pm

My wish list at this point :

Jalen Smith - only big with upside that compliments Bam

Kira Lewis - very unlikely to drop to us IMO

Tyrell Terry - If the growth spurt stuff is real

Immanuel Quickley - If we can get a second round pick
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Post#766 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:27 pm

I don't like Nnaji's defense but I think he'd fit offensively next to Bam.
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Post#767 » by insfo » Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:45 pm

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He has worked out Arizona power forward/center Zeke Nnaji on Sunday


Zeke Nnaji, the fact that the Heat physically worked him out means there was serious interest prior to the workout. If there still interest will dependent on the how well he worked out. Nnaji has a lot of natural physical tools, still very raw. Played at a very respected program, so I am sure the Heat felt he got very good coaching and probably good reviews from the coaches.




I would have been excited about Zeke IF we didn't already have Bam. He's mobile, high energy, good touch, can become really good.

But I don't see the point in drafting any bigs that doesn't compliment Bam, no matter the upside.

We can't waste a pick on a guy that at best would play 10 minutes in big games.


Unless Bam is dangled in a trade this offseason.
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Post#769 » by HeatingUp3 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:21 pm

Kira Lewis is gonna be an all star in 2-3 years. Ill put my money on that statment. No way he drop to 20 but i think many teams are indeed sleeping on him.
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Post#770 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:21 pm

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He has worked out Arizona power forward/center Zeke Nnaji on Sunday


Zeke Nnaji, the fact that the Heat physically worked him out means there was serious interest prior to the workout. If there still interest will dependent on the how well he worked out. Nnaji has a lot of natural physical tools, still very raw. Played at a very respected program, so I am sure the Heat felt he got very good coaching and probably good reviews from the coaches.




I would have been excited about Zeke IF we didn't already have Bam. He's mobile, high energy, good touch, can become really good.

But I don't see the point in drafting any bigs that doesn't compliment Bam, no matter the upside.

We can't waste a pick on a guy that at best would play 10 minutes in big games.


Nnaji does compliment Bam though. He's probably a much better 3-point shooter than he demonstrated himself to be at Arizona.
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Post#771 » by twix2500 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:28 pm

I'm not gonna lie I cant bare looking at Reed jumper.

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Post#772 » by DayofMourning » Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:47 pm

Reids jumper is fairly disastee. He also came down to earth over the course of the season from range. I love his activity, but he doesn't seem like a true contender for our pick to me. Reserve. 9th man.
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Post#773 » by radikalBaller » Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:30 am

Yeah reed jumper is ugly, where he makes a difference is that he has the foot sped for a big to defend the perimeter, if they were looking for someone to backup bam. A knocked down shooting big over 6-10 with great lateral quickcness and great defensive footwork is the hardest thing to find...do you know any beside anthony davis ?
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Post#774 » by radikalBaller » Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:31 am

Saddiq bay may not be a true big, but he is a big wing that can defend and shoot decently...imagine a younger rudy gay playing next to bam...
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Post#775 » by DayofMourning » Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:42 am

radikalBaller wrote:Yeah reed jumper is ugly, where he makes a difference is that he has the foot sped for a big to defend the perimeter, if they were looking for someone to backup bam. A knocked down shooting big over 6-10 with great lateral quickcness and great defensive footwork is the hardest thing to find...do you know any beside anthony davis ?


How tall is Reid? Looks about 6'8".

Hes definitely crafty on the defensive end, but feels more like a wing than a big to me.
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Post#776 » by Wiltside » Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:10 am

My ideal guys in this draft at #20 would be:

1. Saddiq Bey; plays like a vet. Will be a very solid 3&D guy from the get go. More realistic that he could be there at #20.
2. Devin Vassell; swiss army knife. I know there's video out there on a change to his stroke, but the dude just shot 49% last szn and 41% on threes makes per. Reminds of Mikal Bridges a bit for mine (not as freakish wingspan but still 6'10").
3. Patrick Williams; I like the 3/4/small ball 5 potential. Needs refinement, but has a ton of defensive versatility and is a great athlete.
4. Kira Lewis Jr; the Gogi heir apparent. De'Aaron Fox like, perhaps not as high an upside, but I think he'd be a nice change of pace guard off the bench initially and has good size at 6'3" and a 6'6" wingspan. Needs to get stronger.
5. Cole Anthony; see below I suppose. I like the offensive upside, even if the college season was quite uneven.

I know majority of those guys are likely to be gone by #20 though, so my more realistic targets would be:

1. Cole Anthony; I think the injury affected his stock a lot, plus the shortened season. I'd take the punt. Was a consensus Top 5 guy prior.
2. Tyrese Maxey; back to the Kentucky well. Good physical profile, bank on improving the mechanics and shot. He may be a better shooter than he has shown. Keep in mind Herro only averaged 1.6 treys on 35% in college too.
3. Desmond Bane; I just think he's gonna be a really solid pro. Not a high ceiling guy, but a very high floor. Plug and play. The stroke is legit and the body makes me think he could defend the 2/3 well. There may be high ceiling guys available, but I think he'd be a solid choice if our top choices are off the board.
4. Tyrell Terry; Provided his measurements check out, we need shooters around our guys. He's knock down.
5. Jalen Smith; in theory could give us poor man's Ibaka production next year. Shot blocking stretch big's are a rare combination. Worry about his defensive potential defending the PnR, but he is a rim protector. We'll see.
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Post#777 » by Wiltside » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:38 am

Just an update on who current mock drafts have us taking:

CBSSports: Patrick Williams, SF/PF, FSU
SportsIllustrated: RJ Hampton, SG/PG, New Zealand Breakers (NBL)
The Ringer: Desmond Bane, SG, TCU
NBADraftRoom: Tyrese Maxey, SG, Kentucky
Yahoo Sports: Tyrell Terry, SG/PG, Stanford
NBADraft.net: Tyrese Maxey, SG, Kentucky
Tankathon: Cole Anthony, PG, North Carolina
Yardbarker: Tyrese Maxey, SG, Kentucky
Sporting News: Aaron Nesmith, SF, Vanderbilt
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Post#778 » by Miami590 » Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:35 am

With so many teams looking to trade down from the top of the draft, would it be crazy if we were to move up and draft someone like Deni, Okoro or even Obi who would be a good match next to Bam with his shooting ability.
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Post#779 » by Wiltside » Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:16 am

Miami590 wrote:With so many teams looking to trade down from the top of the draft, would it be crazy if we were to move up and draft someone like Deni, Okoro or even Obi who would be a good match next to Bam with his shooting ability.


The reason it is unlikely is two fold:

1) I don't think we've ever traded up into the lottery in our history (from memory).
2) Rookie scale contracts

Rookie scale contracts can be a huge boon if you find a gem in the late lottery, late first or second round. But they can equally be a real problem if you dud on a high lotto pick (think guys like Okafor, Josh Jackson, Anthony Bennett etc).

This is likely why you see a lot of teams thinking about moving back or out - in a draft with no clear stars, similar talent level and a lot of uncertainty, teams don't want to guarantee $5-6-7m over multiple years to guys they're not that high on and see better value late.

E.g. the difference in salary between our pick #20 ($2,267,400 1st year, $2,380,800 2nd year and $2,493,900 3rd year) vs say moving up to pick #6 with ATL ($5,104,900 1st year, $5,360,100 2nd year, $5,615,400 3rd year).

That's a difference of like $3m on a cap hit for potentially very similar level players. Every dollar will count for us in 2021 FA.

Having said that, if the FO and Scouting Team was really confident in a certain prospect and felt like it was worth it, by all means. They've earned the right.
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Post#780 » by RexBoyWonder » Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:50 am

insfo wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:
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He has worked out Arizona power forward/center Zeke Nnaji on Sunday


Zeke Nnaji, the fact that the Heat physically worked him out means there was serious interest prior to the workout. If there still interest will dependent on the how well he worked out. Nnaji has a lot of natural physical tools, still very raw. Played at a very respected program, so I am sure the Heat felt he got very good coaching and probably good reviews from the coaches.




I would have been excited about Zeke IF we didn't already have Bam. He's mobile, high energy, good touch, can become really good.

But I don't see the point in drafting any bigs that doesn't compliment Bam, no matter the upside.

We can't waste a pick on a guy that at best would play 10 minutes in big games.


Unless Bam is dangled in a trade this offseason.


If i had to gamble on who on the current roster will still be here in 2029, It would be Bam.

As for this offseason, no way we move any key pieces when we could add a max player next year AND keep all of them.
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