Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread

[MiamiLoyal926]

How about this story that's not getting much traction... Harden only asking to go to the Clippers and LA not wanting to bid against themselves and the national media seems to be good with this while Lillard asking for just Miami was the worst thing in basketball and how dare the Heat not give up tons for Lillard. It's crazy how much made-up narratives there are in the NBA and how different teams are treated differently in the media.

Lillard was the Golden Boy/hero for the victims in Portland and we were the villains trying to poach him.

Harden is the villain and the golden city of LA is the hero trying to save the Sixers from being victimized by trying to take their villain off their hands and still give them something in return.

All good stories/narratives need someone to be the hero, villain, and victim.

National media loves to always peg us as the villain, and Lillard liked to be perceived as the hero, making Portland the victim by process of elimination. Had Lillard truly made it public what Portland was doing and saying, perhaps we would have not been made out to be the villains and that honor would have gone to Portland.

[smartcane]

Beasley was an offensive mind player that didn't know how to take a back seat to anyone else on the court because he has always been the best person on the court. It is the same issue GS had with Wiseman and Phoenix had with Ayton. All great talents but need a team to be built around them to maximize that talent. Also this is why Carmelo would have never worked in Detroit.

Melo could score anywhere.

It wasn't that he wouldn't be able to score, is if they would let him. Beasley can score anywhere but that was not what Miami needed.

[AirP.]

How about this story that's not getting much traction... Harden only asking to go to the Clippers and LA not wanting to bid against themselves and the national media seems to be good with this while Lillard asking for just Miami was the worst thing in basketball and how dare the Heat not give up tons for Lillard. It's crazy how much made-up narratives there are in the NBA and how different teams are treated differently in the media.

1. I haven't heard James Harden or anyone representing him say that he'll only play for the Clippers or anything of the sort.

2. Harden is on a one year deal. He doesn't need to say anything. No one is going to give up anything of value without assurances from Harden that he will re-sign.

1. His history indicates he either plays where he wants or is an issue, Houston he was an issue while waiting to be traded, Brooklyn he just asked out and now Philly he's talked about making it uncomfortable. To me, Harden is a much higher risk because he's already done this then someone like Lillard whose agent (not Lillard) said he may just ask out again if it's not Miami which of course wasn't the case like most already figured.

2. I guess but whoever holds his Bird rights basically controls his next few years since I highly doubt most if not almost all teams with cap space won't be handing a medium to large amount to an older Harden. Houston was supposed to be his team this year but once Udoka was hired that changed.

[AirP.]

How about this story that's not getting much traction... Harden only asking to go to the Clippers and LA not wanting to bid against themselves and the national media seems to be good with this while Lillard asking for just Miami was the worst thing in basketball and how dare the Heat not give up tons for Lillard. It's crazy how much made-up narratives there are in the NBA and how different teams are treated differently in the media.

Lillard was the Golden Boy/hero for the victims in Portland and we were the villains trying to poach him.

Harden is the villain and the golden city of LA is the hero trying to save the Sixers from being victimized by trying to take their villain off their hands and still give them something in return.

All good stories/narratives need someone to be the hero, villain, and victim.

National media loves to always peg us as the villain, and Lillard liked to be perceived as the hero, making Portland the victim by process of elimination. Had Lillard truly made it public what Portland was doing and saying, perhaps we would have not been made out to be the villains and that honor would have gone to Portland.

I think there's a narrative being made for Miami from a lot of national media that just happen to have a Boston bias and the rest of the national media fall in line for the story.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[HEATVols865]

Folks saying Dwidder and Jaquez will do better than Jovic. GTFOH

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Folks saying Dwidder and Jaquez will do better than Jovic. GTFOH

How about just Jaquez, at least for the next 3-4 years? Jovic may be the better talent but has to develop more.

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[oreon]

How about this story that's not getting much traction... Harden only asking to go to the Clippers and LA not wanting to bid against themselves and the national media seems to be good with this while Lillard asking for just Miami was the worst thing in basketball and how dare the Heat not give up tons for Lillard. It's crazy how much made-up narratives there are in the NBA and how different teams are treated differently in the media.

Lillard was the Golden Boy/hero for the victims in Portland and we were the villains trying to poach him.

Harden is the villain and the golden city of LA is the hero trying to save the Sixers from being victimized by trying to take their villain off their hands and still give them something in return.

All good stories/narratives need someone to be the hero, villain, and victim.

National media loves to always peg us as the villain, and Lillard liked to be perceived as the hero, making Portland the victim by process of elimination. Had Lillard truly made it public what Portland was doing and saying, perhaps we would have not been made out to be the villains and that honor would have gone to Portland.

I think there's a narrative being made for Miami from a lot of national media that just happen to have a Boston bias and the rest of the national media fall in line for the story.

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There's absolutely is. I mean to rank Jrue as a better defender than Dray, AD, Bam, Kawhi is insane. By nature of position an elite big who can switch & protect the rim will always have a bigger impact on defense than an elite defensive guard unless its prime Kawhi.
And Tatum better than Doncic, Kawhi, KD tells me you don't watch basketball.

The media has been trying to sell Tatum as the next face of the league but he's not it. They need an American to take over from Bron as the international guys don't generate as much interest from american fan base. Till Wemby tho

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So how does Charlotte draft Miller, sign Bridges and then waive Kai Jones? Sad to see, but hoping he gets some help on whatever he's going through.

[marson]

There is something wrong with the water there in Charlotte it seems.

[Bishop45]

Charlottes front office just needs to be purged; they're not good at this and it's surprising that they still have fans

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[SerialChiller]

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Wow....

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Someone should probably try to help the dude instead of cutting him off and clowning him on social media.

[dubasilva]

Someone should probably try to help the dude instead of cutting him off and clowning him on social media.

Excellent comment. I agree.

Many of these kids are limited and don't see the danger in the situation. Why let him destroy his career and waste his talents?

It is sad to see someone waste a lifetime opportunity like this.

[Eagle4]

Yh I don't care what no one says, spo isn't the coach he was in 08 which should be obvious in logic.

Beasley was PUTTRID defensively but he was indeed our best option offensively. However, I do remember spo playing several mind games to try and discipline him to being more committed on defense. Beasley would get on a roll score 6 straight, miss one defensive rotation and get benched immediately. He got singled out more than anyone I saw in Spo's tenure.


He most certainly had/has mental issues but he was mismanaged and that reflected on the fact we could only get 2nd round picks for a dude that could score 25 in his sleep. is what it is, Spo is the best coach NOW but idgaf what anyone says or tries to play revisionist history with, spo wasn't that good 08-'11 at all. even when he had the big 3 it took him 6 games in the finals to identify Chalmers was a far superior option over the corpse of Bibby.

His out of time out plays, rotations and overall adjustments were questionable in his first few seasons. He was dubbed Spobot for a reason.

[HEATVols865]

Is Kai Jones worth a minimum contract?