2025 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread

[Daffy]

I'll say this. Bam, Wiggins and AD together is a defensive clinic. My god.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Worries me but if the price is what Zach Lowe is suggesting it’s probably worth the gamble right? Assuming we can use Terrys salary and hopefully get the pick back from Charlotte you can likely get him for Terry Davion Ware and a 1st.

Herro/Dru
Powell/Pelle
Wiggins/Jaime
AD/Fonteccio
Bam/Jovic

Not enough outgoing salary, you need to include herro with rozier or wiggins + filler + rozier or powell + filler + rozier.

Herro is simplest, but I just don't see the heat trading him. They'll probably wanted to give him the extension for full dollars instead of the cheaper extension that was available last month.

I’m showing it’s successful for Terry Davion Simone and Keshad salary wise but would need to find somewhere to dump Keshad and maybe Simone. Maybe it’s including trade exceptions we own?

I think that puts them back into apron territory.

AD makes 54 mill.

Your outgoing is 48M. The other problem is that leaves only 9 players without much way to get to the 14 minimum we need.

[Hoops3355]

I've been thinking about Jaquez leap this season. Is it really because of the new offensive scheme? I feel like a leap was inevitable. I didn't think it would be to his level but he did show signs of this during his rookie season. Last season was bad but during his rookie season he basically played the Jimmy role for us and did well some nights.

Also how has his defense looked to you guys. Last year his defense was also bad but I feel this year his defense has taken a leap as well. He's not an elite defender or lock down guy, but he's also definitely not a traffic cone.

It's a combination of things. The biggest is he's healthy for sure. He basically had zero lift most of last season and I have a sneaking suspicion he did his groin at some point. His offseason work is also showing. He's added multiple dribble packages that allow him to move to spots. That double cross behind then behind the back he's been doing has been leading into a great action off 1v1s opportunities. I'd love him to continue to let it fly from 3 land and I'm sorta surprised his 3 ball still hasn't gotten there yet but stroke is clean. It will come like Bam.

It all makes sense he's thriving in his favorite players role. (also clearly gotten over the disappointment of meeting your hero....

[BFRESH44]

Fat chance the Heat FO makes any seismic in-season move to disrupt the feel good vibes of this current group after dealing what they dealt with last year. Going to ride it out, and assess what to do with who next summer (extensions with Herro, Powell, Wiggins etc.)

[Crazy-Canuck]

I'll say this. Bam, Wiggins and AD together is a defensive clinic. My god.

Imo, best defensive frontcourt in the league and it wouldn't be close. Championship frontcourt, but would absolutely need an actual pg. Its why I wouldn't do Sammy's deal, it wouldn't make sense.

Give up mitchell and the only wing on the roster to bring in AD doesnt move the needle as much as you'd like. If AD is on the table and rozier becomes trade eligible..

Team A
(Wiggins/Powell package)

Mitchell
Herro
Jovic or Jaime
AD
Bam

Vs
(Herro/rozier package)

Mitchell
Powell
Wiggins
AD
Bam

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Not enough outgoing salary, you need to include herro with rozier or wiggins + filler + rozier or powell + filler + rozier.

Herro is simplest, but I just don't see the heat trading him. They'll probably wanted to give him the extension for full dollars instead of the cheaper extension that was available last month.

I’m showing it’s successful for Terry Davion Simone and Keshad salary wise but would need to find somewhere to dump Keshad and maybe Simone. Maybe it’s including trade exceptions we own?

I think that puts them back into apron territory.

AD makes 54 mill.

Your outgoing is 48M. The other problem is that leaves only 9 players without much way to get to the 14 minimum we need.

Slightly outside is what I believe I saw so yeah filling their roster spots would definitely put us over. Damn, I wish Simone and Davion made a little more in these scenarios

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Jesus, Mavs fans on twitter talking about how Nico ruined their lives and put them into depression to the point they wanted to end it all after the Luka trade and how his firing was their first step to healing and moving past it. It is never that serious fellas

[Crazy-Canuck]

I’m showing it’s successful for Terry Davion Simone and Keshad salary wise but would need to find somewhere to dump Keshad and maybe Simone. Maybe it’s including trade exceptions we own?

I think that puts them back into apron territory.

AD makes 54 mill.

Your outgoing is 48M. The other problem is that leaves only 9 players without much way to get to the 14 minimum we need.

Slightly outside is what I believe I saw so yeah filling their roster spots would definitely put us over. Damn, I wish Simone and Davion made a little more in these scenarios

Mavs aren't going to deal their luka return for mitchell and fontecchio.

Imo, herro, ware, and picks are where it will start.

They could take wiggs and Powell package, but it would require more work to flip them for youth and picks.

So, do they want herro on his future extension or AD? I'm torn. I'm not herros biggest fan, but AD is looking really overweight right now.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I think that puts them back into apron territory.

AD makes 54 mill.

Your outgoing is 48M. The other problem is that leaves only 9 players without much way to get to the 14 minimum we need.

Slightly outside is what I believe I saw so yeah filling their roster spots would definitely put us over. Damn, I wish Simone and Davion made a little more in these scenarios

Mavs aren't going to deal their luka return for mitchell and fontecchio.

Imo, herro, ware, and picks are where it will start.

They could take wiggs and Powell package, but it would require more work to flip them for youth and picks.

So, do they want herro on his future extension or AD? I'm torn. I'm not herros biggest fan, but AD is looking really overweight right now.

It’s a tough one, strike now and get AD or maybe even Kyrie and they get hurt (or not) or hold out and wait for a better/safer option that’s also on our players timelines for a 5+ year stretch (which may not come available and we ended up missing a contention window for nothing)

[Beenie]

Lively and Ware are redundant for Dal

They'll want Herro and Jaquez and picks

Mia will likely want to keep Jaquez out of the deal

Fair exchange would be something like Herro, Jovic, filler and a pick

[DayofMourning]

Will take Lively for Rozier. Even give them our 27 pick.

[vagelis]

Are you sure that AD can run in this fast pace of Miami offence?
I don't think so.
He is always injured and seems that he is out of shape because of the injuries.

[DayofMourning]

Ware/Lively
Bam/Jovic
Wiggs/Jaime
Norm/Larsson
Herro/Davion

Fontecchio
Dru
Kaspar
Keshad

[MiamiLoyal926]

Are you sure that AD can run in this fast pace of Miami offence?
I don't think so.
He is always injured and seems that he is out of shape because of the injuries.

I am with you on this one. I like our new offense and would love to turn it into a long term system that evolves and improves over time. As such, swing for players that fit the system you want to run rather than get a player that you have to adapt your system for… unless said player is one of those players worth changing your system for, which AD is not. He is also not someone I see fitting our new system.

[SA37]

Fat chance the Heat FO makes any seismic in-season move to disrupt the feel good vibes of this current group after dealing what they dealt with last year. Going to ride it out, and assess what to do with who next summer (extensions with Herro, Powell, Wiggins etc.)

Agree. The only move I see even remotely possible is a Herro trade (and this largely depends on how far apart they were on an extension over the summer), and his injury probably handcuffs the Heat in their ability to get good value for Herro before the deadline.

If Miami passed on trading for Durant or taking less for Wiggins, the FO is certainly not going to go all-in on a player unless it's a Giannis type acquisition. I don't think AD or Morant qualify for that.

My guess is Miami is offering Herro $35M/season and Herro wants $45M/season and the two sides have agreed to see where things stand next summer.

[SA37]

Jesus, Mavs fans on twitter talking about how Nico ruined their lives and put them into depression to the point they wanted to end it all after the Luka trade and how his firing was their first step to healing and moving past it. It is never that serious fellas

The best tweet I've seen so far is one where it has a video of Doncic and Brunson together and it says something to the effect of "Nico Harrison actually managed to ruin this".

[SA37]

How did Bradley Beal fracture his hip?!?!

[heater4life]

Only way this team makes a move is for a perennial star and one that fits what they’re currently doing.

Very hard for that and compensation to align.

Now should someone like Giannis (no brainer) become available, it’s time to sell high on guys like Wiggs, JJJ, and other youth and assets.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[Tim_Hardawayy]

Fat chance the Heat FO makes any seismic in-season move to disrupt the feel good vibes of this current group after dealing what they dealt with last year. Going to ride it out, and assess what to do with who next summer (extensions with Herro, Powell, Wiggins etc.)

Agree. The only move I see even remotely possible is a Herro trade (and this largely depends on how far apart they were on an extension over the summer), and his injury probably handcuffs the Heat in their ability to get good value for Herro before the deadline.

If Miami passed on trading for Durant or taking less for Wiggins, the FO is certainly not going to go all-in on a player unless it's a Giannis type acquisition. I don't think AD or Morant qualify for that.

My guess is Miami is offering Herro $35M/season and Herro wants $45M/season and the two sides have agreed to see where things stand next summer.

I would gladly take Tyler at 35, they need to press him on the injury concerns. That's a real problem. Unfortunately he can probably get 45 on the market, in which case Riles needs to get proactive and get value for him.

Regarding Anthony Davis, meh. He's a final piece type of player, not a guy you add to a squad that arguably still doesn't even have an identity. What we really need is that guy you can go to at the end of games and say, get me a bucket or create it yourself. Unfortunately that's also what like 20-25 other teams also need, so there's a lot of competition.