Who Do We Cut (with Vote)

RJM · Post #81 » by **RJM** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:28 pm

I went with Walker, Ennis, and Rio. Rio's done all he could at this point, and he's not improving. Walker is a fringe player, and so is Ennis. Green renders Ennis useless unfortunately. I don't want to give up Napier because there's still time for him to develop. No way am I cutting Birdman from a team that barely has enough size to work with, nor am I cutting a playmaker in McRoberts before he has a real opportunity to help this team succeed (what if we cut Miller after that first injury-plagued season?).

Zoran still has upside and something to give to this team, as well as Tyler Johnson. There's no sense in drafting Richardson just to cut him. He might be good enough to keep on the roster for cheap this season as an end-of-roster player. Zilla is a HEAT Lifer. He's not going anywhere. He didn't fly the coop when LeBron did and is a cult hero down here. He deserves to be in the HEAT Ring of Fire.

Chalm Down · Post #82 » by **Chalm Down** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:51 pm

walk with me wrote:Keeping rio & bird is genius. That way when we play the bulls/cavs in the playoffs the guys we need to be fresh can be so. If you aren't for sending any combo of zoran/ennis/walker/richardson I question your aptitude. Not only that but if we were going to "trade someone for nothing" why not let it be shabazz.... He's cute and cuddly but let's be for real. He hasn't done anything note worthy in a heat jersey ever. Rio has sucked recently but he's had some huge moments and can defend when he wants.

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Post #83 » by **BBallFreak** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:08 pm

Temuhjan wrote:
Seabass777 wrote:In my opnion I think it goes down like this:

Cuts:Walker,Ennis.
Overseas seasoning:Richardson
Trades:Chalmers,Anderson.

Rumour has it a trade with the Clippers is being discussed where we get Jamal Crawford in return for Rio and Bird.

And what do we do with Crawford; sit him behind Green and Winslow? He's no point guard and the other two (Green and Winslow) deserve to play. At some point we have to stop grabbing big names and start grabbing smart role players. We don't need a chucker, we need a floor general. With Green and Winslow here, I'd rather have Rio...

Bishop45 · Post #84 » by **Bishop45** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:15 pm

Keep Bazz

RJM · Post #85 » by **RJM** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:32 pm

legit_savage wrote:I really hope McRob gets traded.

I really don't understand this sentiment. McRoberts is a playmaking stretch forward in the mold of a Lamar Odom, very intelligent with the ball and plays a cerebral game. Why trade him when he would be ideal with Miami's second unit alongside a developing Napier, Winslow, and an established Stoudemire/Bosh?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LshtV14Nd-U[/youtube]

That's another skilled passer and shooter on the floor with him! Players like him don't grow on trees.

Heatworld · Post #86 » by **Heatworld** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:04 am

RJM wrote:
legit_savage wrote:I really hope McRob gets traded.

I really don't understand this sentiment. McRoberts is a playmaking stretch forward in the mold of a Lamar Odom, very intelligent with the ball and plays a cerebral game. Why trade him when he would be ideal with Miami's second unit alongside a developing Napier, Winslow, and an established Stoudemire/Bosh?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LshtV14Nd-U[/youtube]

That's another skilled passer and shooter on the floor with him! Players like him don't grow on trees.

Most of these numbskulls calling for McRob's trade have never seen him play. He will be perfect on this team.

legit_savage · Post #87 » by **legit_savage** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:35 am

Heatworld wrote:
RJM wrote:
legit_savage wrote:I really hope McRob gets traded.

I really don't understand this sentiment. McRoberts is a playmaking stretch forward in the mold of a Lamar Odom, very intelligent with the ball and plays a cerebral game. Why trade him when he would be ideal with Miami's second unit alongside a developing Napier, Winslow, and an established Stoudemire/Bosh?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LshtV14Nd-U[/youtube]

That's another skilled passer and shooter on the floor with him! Players like him don't grow on trees.

Most of these numbskulls calling for McRob's trade have never seen him play. He will be perfect on this team.

Actually "numbskull" I have watched him play and he's known for his half court offense passing. Spo and Dragic have said that they want to run. McRob won't be a perfect fit on this team.

3ballbomber · Post #88 » by **3ballbomber** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:01 am

It's clear we need a capable and experienced back up PG for Goran. None of what we have will do. Just because Chalmers is the best option doesn't mean we keep him. He was never a good PG, we kept him because we never had enough money to sign a proper PG.

I believe the halt w/ Thornton may be for this exact reason. I think we're looking for a PG & also back up C.

Wolfy1983 · Post #89 » by **Wolfy1983** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:33 am

Why do some of you guys want McBob gone? Dude can play. Now if your reasoning is due to his health, than that is more understandable.

3ballbomber · Post #90 » by **3ballbomber** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 4:23 am

digg211 wrote:Why do some of you guys want McBob gone? Dude can play. Now if your reasoning is due to his health, than that is more understandable.

not enough sample size for me to be involved in the hype. no hair off my head if he's cut really

Post #91 » by **QUIZ** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 5:02 am

3ballbomber wrote:
digg211 wrote:Why do some of you guys want McBob gone? Dude can play. Now if your reasoning is due to his health, than that is more understandable.

not enough sample size for me to be involved in the hype. no hair off my head if he's cut really

Pretty much what 3bb said.

legit_savage · Post #92 » by **legit_savage** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 5:08 am

Cut Ennis and Walker. It's really a shame that Ennis is entering his 3rd season and still can't dribble for crap. There is no room for Walker on the roster. Chalmers won't be cut because he is owed 4.3 Mil guaranteed next season.

Wolfy1983 · Post #93 » by **Wolfy1983** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 6:56 am

3ballbomber wrote:
digg211 wrote:Why do some of you guys want McBob gone? Dude can play. Now if your reasoning is due to his health, than that is more understandable.

not enough sample size for me to be involved in the hype. no hair off my head if he's cut really

The sample size in Charlotte is enough to convince me that that he deserves a shot.

goodboy · Post #94 » by **goodboy** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:53 am

Well McBob does have 0 votes, so pretty much the majority don't want that.

inb4 iggie votes for McBob.

3ballbomber · Post #95 » by **3ballbomber** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 8:18 am

digg211 wrote:
3ballbomber wrote:
digg211 wrote:Why do some of you guys want McBob gone? Dude can play. Now if your reasoning is due to his health, than that is more understandable.

not enough sample size for me to be involved in the hype. no hair off my head if he's cut really

The sample size in Charlotte is enough to convince me that that he deserves a shot.

you're easily impressed.

HIF · Post #96 » by **HIF** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 8:18 am

HeatWillRise wrote:Well McBob does have 0 votes, so pretty much the majority don't want that.

inb4 iggie votes for McBob.

Or maybe the people who want him out are too dumb to know how to vote.

Chalm Down · Post #97 » by **Chalm Down** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:28 am

Is there a deadline by which they need to be down to 15 players?

RJM · Post #98 » by **RJM** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:47 am

Chalm Down wrote:Is there a deadline by which they need to be down to 15 players?

The weekend after preseason ends.

Heat_team02 · Post #99 » by **Heat_team02** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 1:18 pm

Personal Fouls

1) Henry Walker 3.2 Avg
2) Mario Chalmers 3.1 Avg

Turnovers

3) Mario Chalmers 2.2

Worst FG%

1) Henry Walker 34%

3Pt %

1) Mario Chalmers 29%
---- Henry Walker 34%

dubasilva · Post #100 » by **dubasilva** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:29 pm

If we look at the business side of things, I doubt the Heat pays tax, so probably 2 players will be traded. With Amare, maybe McBob, Birdman could be gone. I also think Chalmers can help a non-playoff team or a team with a Young PG. He might have value.
I'd try to look for a backup Center. Reed did well in the summer league, too back we lost him for so little money. Maybe we can convince Larry Sanders?